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Post by redcard🏐 on Dec 21, 2023 9:49:46 GMT -5
WVU also had a shortfall of 45 Million dollars and a president who had been an itinerant snake oil salesman. He has gutted much of the academics at WVU, and he is determined to continue on his crusade to turn WVU into a trade school. This has a bearing on athletics because he has also done away with 12 majors, which affects recruiting. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/class-war-west-virignia-university/676152/Like WVU is the only Uni with a deficit. They still offer 300 degree programs and continue to maintain their R1 status. The “gutted” programs affected about 1% of their students. So these were most likely degree programs with declining enrollments. |
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Post by Sooners1822 on Dec 21, 2023 9:53:15 GMT -5
Just know if you’re a WVU recruit and the coaches say they’re going to stay while you’re there , They’re lying. pretty ignorant post to the profession of coaching and the uncertainty it brings. I agree with you that a place like WVU may end up being high turnover with assistants but that's not the case with HCs. |
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 21, 2023 10:20:31 GMT -5
WVU also had a shortfall of 45 Million dollars and a president who had been an itinerant snake oil salesman. He has gutted much of the academics at WVU, and he is determined to continue on his crusade to turn WVU into a trade school. This has a bearing on athletics because he has also done away with 12 majors, which affects recruiting. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/class-war-west-virignia-university/676152/Like WVU is the only Uni with a deficit. They still offer 300 degree programs and continue to maintain their R1 status. The “gutted” programs affected about 1% of their students. So these were most likely degree programs with declining enrollments. Also, with all due respect to West Virginia, they've never been thought of as a great academic school (e.g. Cal) anyway. In terms of recruiting, it has its challenges, but hiring a proven coach like Greeny will be better for their recruiting than 12 majors (4% of 300) that are no longer offered. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 21, 2023 10:39:09 GMT -5
Just know if you’re a WVU recruit and the coaches say they’re going to stay while you’re there , They’re lying. Jenn is the 5th coach at WVU….that doesn’t cry high turn over rate to me. 🙄 When Veronica was there for like 30 years, there is an impact on average coaching tenure. |
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Post by redcard🏐 on Dec 21, 2023 10:48:33 GMT -5
Jenn is the 5th coach at WVU….that doesn’t cry high turn over rate to me. 🙄 When Veronica was there for like 30 years, there is an impact on average coaching tenure. True, but there a lot of programs that had long tenured coaches during the 70’s and 80’s that was more the norm then. Kramer had 5 seasons and Reed had 9. I still don’t consider that a revolving door. |
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 21, 2023 11:39:09 GMT -5
Sunahara record at WVU (9 seasons): Overall: 106-156 (.404) Conference: 32-114 (.219)
I don't know how funding for international scholarhips works at WVU, but if Greeny can pull that route off, she has nowhere to go but up.
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Post by n00b on Dec 21, 2023 11:45:14 GMT -5
Sunahara record at WVU (9 seasons): Overall: 106-156 (.404) Conference: 32-114 (.219) I don't know how funding for international scholarhips works at WVU, but if Greeny can pull that route off, she has nowhere to go but up. I mean, they're in the Big 12. No way Greeny takes this job without a full green light to recruit internationally. |
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Post by redcard🏐 on Dec 21, 2023 11:49:34 GMT -5
Sunahara record at WVU (9 seasons): Overall: 106-156 (.404) Conference: 32-114 (.219) I don't know how funding for international scholarhips works at WVU, but if Greeny can pull that route off, she has nowhere to go but up. I mean, they're in the Big 12. No way Greeny takes this job without a full green light to recruit internationally. Its not like WVU hasn’t had international players in the past….theyve had plenty. Should be a non-issue. |
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Post by Phaedrus on Dec 21, 2023 11:58:16 GMT -5
WVU also had a shortfall of 45 Million dollars and a president who had been an itinerant snake oil salesman. He has gutted much of the academics at WVU, and he is determined to continue on his crusade to turn WVU into a trade school. This has a bearing on athletics because he has also done away with 12 majors, which affects recruiting. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/class-war-west-virignia-university/676152/Like WVU is the only Uni with a deficit. They still offer 300 degree programs and continue to maintain their R1 status. The “gutted” programs affected about 1% of their students. So these were most likely degree programs with declining enrollments. We obviously disagree. The problem is not about the enrollment of the majors, but it is that the majors are fundamental requirements for many other majors, they are the basic under girding of undergraduate education. |
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 21, 2023 11:59:54 GMT -5
From a strictly technical coaching point of view, I don't think Greeny is necessarily that much better than Reed, but she has certainly had more success with her teams, and success with international players.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 21, 2023 12:04:00 GMT -5
From a strictly technical coaching point of view, I don't think Greeny is necessarily that much better than Reed, but she has certainly had more success with her teams, and success with international players. I’d agree with this. better culture/morale too. |
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Post by redcard🏐 on Dec 21, 2023 12:04:27 GMT -5
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 21, 2023 12:09:01 GMT -5
West Virginia is showing out. Why do I feel this is setting me up for NorthWestern disappointment?
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Post by redcard🏐 on Dec 21, 2023 12:09:43 GMT -5
Like WVU is the only Uni with a deficit. They still offer 300 degree programs and continue to maintain their R1 status. The “gutted” programs affected about 1% of their students. So these were most likely degree programs with declining enrollments. We obviously disagree. The problem is not about the enrollment of the majors, but it is that the majors are fundamental requirements for many other majors, they are the basic under girding of undergraduate education. I don’t disagree it happened but the “sky is falling” tone of your post is where we differ. I guess 1% of the students who were impacted feel the same but if their majors are common and in demand there are likely plenty of other options for them. The current Juniors and Seniors are not impacted at all and the other 99% of the WV students will be just fine. 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by vbcoltrane on Dec 21, 2023 12:42:07 GMT -5
Washington State is a good program. I haven't read the whole thread, so I'm assuming it's already been said - this really speaks to the ramifications of conference reallaignment. Jumping ship to a worse VB school, but better conference is all I can see in this move. Though given WSU's unknown future, it's not apparent it would remain the level of program it is.
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