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Post by badgerbyproxy on Oct 7, 2024 17:08:35 GMT -5
I love me some Mruzik, but it sucks that Ohio State lost both matches last week because what Londot did should've been recognized IMO. I think it’s silly that losing is disqualifying, these by definition are individual awards. Kinkela was co-POW last week when Rutgers was 0-2, so the Corinth bodies are willing to recognize standouts from losing teams.
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 7, 2024 18:01:57 GMT -5
I love me some Mruzik, but it sucks that Ohio State lost both matches last week because what Londot did should've been recognized IMO. I think it’s silly that losing is disqualifying, these by definition are individual awards. Oh I fully agree! I've hated that they've pretty much stuck to that format for years with the occasional exception as badgerbyproxy pointed out.
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Post by dbro1970 on Oct 7, 2024 18:11:04 GMT -5
B1G Standings - 10/6/24 Team | Conference | Overall | Nebraska | 4-0 | 14-1 | Penn State | 4-0 | 14-1 | Michigan | 3-1 | 13-2 | Oregon | 3-1 | 11-2 | Purdue | 3-1 | 12-3 | USC | 3-1 | 11-3 | Washington | 3-1 | 13-1 | Wisconsin | 3-1 | 9-4 | Indiana | 2-2 | 9-5 | Iowa | 2-2 | 8-8 | Minnesota | 2-2 | 9-5 | Illinois | 1-3 | 9-5 | Maryland | 1-3 | 10-5 | Northwestern | 1-3 | 3-9 | UCLA | 1-3 | 7-6 | Michigan State | 0-4 | 7-8 | Ohio State | 0-4 | 7-7 | Rutgers | 0-4 | 5-10 |
I think we already see the separation of teams that will make the tournament with those that will not. I believe the teams tied for 1st and 3rd right now will make the tournament, and the rest of the teams will not. The possible exception is Minnesota, tied for 9th right now.
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Post by gazelle1 on Oct 7, 2024 19:12:22 GMT -5
B1G Standings - 10/6/24 Team | Conference | Overall | Nebraska | 4-0 | 14-1 | Penn State | 4-0 | 14-1 | Michigan | 3-1 | 13-2 | Oregon | 3-1 | 11-2 | Purdue | 3-1 | 12-3 | USC | 3-1 | 11-3 | Washington | 3-1 | 13-1 | Wisconsin | 3-1 | 9-4 | Indiana | 2-2 | 9-5 | Iowa | 2-2 | 8-8 | Minnesota | 2-2 | 9-5 | Illinois | 1-3 | 9-5 | Maryland | 1-3 | 10-5 | Northwestern | 1-3 | 3-9 | UCLA | 1-3 | 7-6 | Michigan State | 0-4 | 7-8 | Ohio State | 0-4 | 7-7 | Rutgers | 0-4 | 5-10 |
I think we already see the separation of teams that will make the tournament with those that will not. I believe the teams tied for 1st and 3rd right now will make the tournament, and the rest of the teams will not. The possible exception is Minnesota, tied for 9th right now. Minnesota is 9-5 with two top ten wins over Texas and Wisconsin. They are almost a lock for the tournament, unless they have some kind of epic collapse. I don't see that happening. UCLA, Illinois, and Indiana are decent teams with some talent. I wouldn't be surprised if one of those three makes the tournament as well.
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Oct 7, 2024 21:56:28 GMT -5
B1G Standings - 10/6/24 Team | Conference | Overall | Nebraska | 4-0 | 14-1 | Penn State | 4-0 | 14-1 | Michigan | 3-1 | 13-2 | Oregon | 3-1 | 11-2 | Purdue | 3-1 | 12-3 | USC | 3-1 | 11-3 | Washington | 3-1 | 13-1 | Wisconsin | 3-1 | 9-4 | Indiana | 2-2 | 9-5 | Iowa | 2-2 | 8-8 | Minnesota | 2-2 | 9-5 | Illinois | 1-3 | 9-5 | Maryland | 1-3 | 10-5 | Northwestern | 1-3 | 3-9 | UCLA | 1-3 | 7-6 | Michigan State | 0-4 | 7-8 | Ohio State | 0-4 | 7-7 | Rutgers | 0-4 | 5-10 |
I think we already see the separation of teams that will make the tournament with those that will not. I believe the teams tied for 1st and 3rd right now will make the tournament, and the rest of the teams will not. The possible exception is Minnesota, tied for 9th right now. I mostly agreed with you until you started talking about MN not making it lol. Someone already explained to you. The only team in that 1st and 3rd groups that won’t make it is Iowa and Indiana is a maybe.
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Post by mcmike on Oct 11, 2024 11:39:53 GMT -5
bigten.org/wvb/stats/not sure how meaningful the differential in H% for & against is, but thought I'd share from MN thread ranked by difference school H% oppH% diff through 2wks of B1G play includes non-conf PSU .315 .123 .192 4-0 Neb .298 .163 .135 4-0 Ore .278 .147 .131 3-1 WI .296 .195 .101 3-1 MI .261 .164 .097 3-1 UCLA.253 .159 .094 1-3 Wa .251 .159 .091 3-1 Pur .277 .187 .090 3-1 MD .247 .163 .084 1-3 MN .229 .153 .076 2-2 Ill .235 .185 .050 1-3 USC .215 .171 .044 3-1 OSU .210 .194 .016 0-4 IN .229 .221 .008 2-2 IA .219 .224 -.005 2-2 MSU .216 .222 -.006 0-4 Rut .214 .225 -.011 0-4 NW .185 .227 -.042 1-3
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 11, 2024 13:26:08 GMT -5
bigten.org/wvb/stats/not sure how meaningful the differential in H% for & against is, but thought I'd share from MN thread ranked by difference school H% oppH% diff through 2wks of B1G play includes non-conf PSU .315 .123 .192 4-0 Neb .298 .163 .135 4-0 Ore .278 .147 .131 3-1 WI .296 .195 .101 3-1 MI .261 .164 .097 3-1 UCLA.253 .159 .094 1-3 Wa .251 .159 .091 3-1 Pur .277 .187 .090 3-1 MD .247 .163 .084 1-3 MN .229 .153 .076 2-2 Ill .235 .185 .050 1-3 USC .215 .171 .044 3-1 OSU .210 .194 .016 0-4 IN .229 .221 .008 2-2 IA .219 .224 -.005 2-2 MSU .216 .222 -.006 0-4 Rut .214 .225 -.011 0-4 NW .185 .227 -.042 1-3 This is the topline number I care about most near the end of the year, but the schedules are still so unbalanced and teams change so much over the OOC schedule, that I don't think you should read into it too closely at this point. Also, if one is going to cite the in-conference record, one should compare them to the in conference stats. The annual HP diff averages should put teams in the appropriate tier, but the near exact match here between the HP diff and conference standing is almost certainly pure coincidence with only 4 games played. I think maybe it's helped by the fact that there have been relatively few matchups between the top ranked teams so far.
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Post by Chewblocka on Oct 11, 2024 15:41:06 GMT -5
I love me some Mruzik, but it sucks that Ohio State lost both matches last week because what Londot did should've been recognized IMO. I agree!
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Post by notwvb on Oct 12, 2024 6:19:40 GMT -5
Update please to show Iowa T3 with Wash, USC, Mich, Minn, and Purdue. Nice company for the moment. :-)
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Post by b1gvb23 on Oct 12, 2024 6:45:28 GMT -5
I think we already see the separation of teams that will make the tournament with those that will not. I believe the teams tied for 1st and 3rd right now will make the tournament, and the rest of the teams will not. The possible exception is Minnesota, tied for 9th right now. I mostly agreed with you until you started talking about MN not making it lol. Someone already explained to you. The only team in that 1st and 3rd groups that won’t make it is Iowa and Indiana is a maybe. I don’t see Michigan making it… they have one okay win knocking off UCLA and are going to pick up many more losses
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Post by tomclen on Oct 12, 2024 7:02:11 GMT -5
Washington is not in a comfortable position, IMO, for making the tournament. Don't see how they can win in Eugene this Sunday. Next at Michigan. Then they have a 3-match stretch with some winnable games. But, (and this is a big 'but') the final month of their schedule is going to be brutal and could be all L's, or close to it: NEXT FIVE:At Oregon At Michigan At Michigan State Home vs. Rutgers Home vs. Maryland FINAL TEN:Home vs. Oregon At USC At Minnesota Home vs. Nebraska At UCLA Home vs. Northwestern At Ohio State At Penn State Home vs. USC Home vs. Purdue
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Oct 12, 2024 9:52:49 GMT -5
Washington is not in a comfortable position, IMO, for making the tournament. Don't see how they can win in Eugene this Sunday. Next at Michigan. Then they have a 3-match stretch with some winnable games. But, (and this is a big 'but') the final month of their schedule is going to be brutal and could be all L's, or close to it: NEXT FIVE:At Oregon At Michigan At Michigan State Home vs. Rutgers Home vs. Maryland FINAL TEN:Home vs. Oregon At USC At Minnesota Home vs. Nebraska At UCLA Home vs. Northwestern At Ohio State At Penn State Home vs. USC Home vs. Purdue That last 10 games are brutal! I hope they can have an upset or two there but not against MN though haha.
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 12, 2024 11:21:55 GMT -5
Washington is not in a comfortable position, IMO, for making the tournament. Don't see how they can win in Eugene this Sunday. Next at Michigan. Then they have a 3-match stretch with some winnable games. But, (and this is a big 'but') the final month of their schedule is going to be brutal and could be all L's, or close to it: I agree that the Huskies are not in a "comfortable" position to make the tournament, but I'm more optimistic with regard to the remainder of the schedule. Sure, Oregon and Michigan could be two tough matches and Husky fans might be losing faith after the 13-0 start, but to predict that they could lose ALL of their remaining games in the final month of the season is a little Chicken Little-ish. If Barton can remain healthy and Gabriel can get the Huskies to improve a few different phases of their game, they have an excellent chance of making the tournament IMO.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 12, 2024 11:27:39 GMT -5
Washington is not in a comfortable position, IMO, for making the tournament. Don't see how they can win in Eugene this Sunday. Next at Michigan. Then they have a 3-match stretch with some winnable games. But, (and this is a big 'but') the final month of their schedule is going to be brutal and could be all L's, or close to it: I agree that the Huskies are not in a "comfortable" position to make the tournament, but I'm more optimistic with regard to the remainder of the schedule. Sure, Oregon and Michigan could be two tough matches and Husky fans might be losing faith after the 13-0 start, but to predict that they could lose ALL of their remaining games in the final month of the season is a little Chicken Little-ish. If Barton can remain healthy and Gabriel can get the Huskies to improve a few different phases of their game, they have an excellent chance of making the tournament IMO. Also, Northwestern and Ohio St. are not good. Those are pretty sure wins. USC lacks firepower on the pins and UW could take one or both. I also wouldn't be surprised if they went 4-0 starting next weekend.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Oct 12, 2024 12:08:26 GMT -5
Washington is not in a comfortable position, IMO, for making the tournament. Don't see how they can win in Eugene this Sunday. Next at Michigan. Then they have a 3-match stretch with some winnable games. But, (and this is a big 'but') the final month of their schedule is going to be brutal and could be all L's, or close to it: NEXT FIVE:At Oregon At Michigan At Michigan State Home vs. Rutgers Home vs. Maryland FINAL TEN:Home vs. Oregon At USC At Minnesota Home vs. Nebraska At UCLA Home vs. Northwestern At Ohio State At Penn State Home vs. USC Home vs. Purdue I concur with what others have said. There are at least 5 easy wins (Mich St, Rutgers, Maryland, NW, and tOSU) and a good number of matches that could go either way (UCLA, Michigan, Oregonx2, USCx2). Should they win all the east matches and pick up 2-3 of the good matchups, they’ll be able to make the tournament. It also helps that some of Washington’s pre-season opponents are getting good results in their conferences (UC Davis, WaSU, Pepperdine). Last 10 are brutal, but getting 3-4 wins against these teams should be enough.
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