ezevb
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Post by ezevb on May 16, 2024 8:54:06 GMT -5
17 Open - Final - 3 At-Large - Austin Juniors, Drive Nation, and Dynasty 16 Open - Final - 3 At-Large - AZ Sky, Elevation, Academy NC 15 Open - 5 At-Large with 4 remaining - Madfrog 15 Open - 4 remaining At Large bids go to: 1 United, Dynasty, GP, OK Charge 14 Open - 6 of 7 At Large bids have been awarded to: AZ Sky, PVA, Mintonette, Boss CLE, OT 14 T, AZ Storm. Still 1 remaining. Final spot for 14 Open went to Premier Nebraska. Open field is finalized at all ages.
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Post by OHVBKING on May 16, 2024 12:45:54 GMT -5
I think way too many people are entirely too caught up in USAV. We have been to USAV three times and AAU three times. Honestly I would much rather go to AAU for a number of reasons. 1) no stay to play BS and we always get a two or three bedroom condo 2) Orlando airport is easy. No buses to get a rental car, just walk right to the garage 3) Your kids ends her season a week earlier and that allows us to take some family time (vacation) 4) There is plenty of competition and I actually think there were more college coaches at AAU for my daughters 16s season than at USAV 5) Her team always seemed to perform better at qualifiers because they weren't so caught in trying to get a bid
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Post by ezevb on May 16, 2024 13:24:54 GMT -5
I think way too many people are entirely too caught up in USAV. We have been to USAV three times and AAU three times. Honestly I would much rather go to AAU for a number of reasons. 1) no stay to play BS and we always get a two or three bedroom condo 2) Orlando airport is easy. No buses to get a rental car, just walk right to the garage 3) Your kids ends her season a week earlier and that allows us to take some family time (vacation) 4) There is plenty of competition and I actually think there were more college coaches at AAU for my daughters 16s season than at USAV 5) Her team always seemed to perform better at qualifiers because they weren't so caught in trying to get a bid I agree with the logistics of Orlando. I’ll argue with anyone that Triple Crown should be in Orlando because of all the reasons you just listed, and all the direct flights in and out. But USAV GJNC and AAUs aren’t on the same level, tournament wise. There are much better cities with better golf courses than Augusta National in Augusta GA, but The Masters is The Masters.
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Post by notvballdad on May 16, 2024 15:25:57 GMT -5
I think way too many people are entirely too caught up in USAV. We have been to USAV three times and AAU three times. Honestly I would much rather go to AAU for a number of reasons. 1) no stay to play BS and we always get a two or three bedroom condo 2) Orlando airport is easy. No buses to get a rental car, just walk right to the garage 3) Your kids ends her season a week earlier and that allows us to take some family time (vacation) 4) There is plenty of competition and I actually think there were more college coaches at AAU for my daughters 16s season than at USAV 5) Her team always seemed to perform better at qualifiers because they weren't so caught in trying to get a bid I agree with the logistics of Orlando. I’ll argue with anyone that Triple Crown should be in Orlando because of all the reasons you just listed, and all the direct flights in and out. But USAV GJNC and AAUs aren’t on the same level, tournament wise. There are much better cities with better golf courses than Augusta National in Augusta GA, but The Masters is The Masters. I hear this quite frequently about USAV being the best but I'm confused as to why on the boys side, they, in one year, decided USAV wasn't it anymore, stopped going, flipped to AAU and now AAU is the top competition/tournament and USAV has been moved down the pecking order. And boys is still growing and recruiting and the world didn't end. I would agree with the sentiments around AAU above and have loved ever time we've played at AAU Nationals. Its not quantifiable but just a completely different vibe and feel. I rarely left USAV nationals feeling happy or positive or like we had a fitting end to our season (and it wasn't because we didn't medal). I've left AAU multiple times loving the experience and really excited about the next season.
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Post by ridaxx3 on May 16, 2024 17:15:40 GMT -5
I think way too many people are entirely too caught up in USAV. We have been to USAV three times and AAU three times. Honestly I would much rather go to AAU for a number of reasons. 1) no stay to play BS and we always get a two or three bedroom condo 2) Orlando airport is easy. No buses to get a rental car, just walk right to the garage 3) Your kids ends her season a week earlier and that allows us to take some family time (vacation) 4) There is plenty of competition and I actually think there were more college coaches at AAU for my daughters 16s season than at USAV 5) Her team always seemed to perform better at qualifiers because they weren't so caught in trying to get a bid I agree with the logistics of Orlando. I’ll argue with anyone that Triple Crown should be in Orlando because of all the reasons you just listed, and all the direct flights in and out. But USAV GJNC and AAUs aren’t on the same level, tournament wise. There are much better cities with better golf courses than Augusta National in Augusta GA, but The Masters is The Masters. The college coaches don't seem to care which one you go to if they already like you. If you have specific people watching you then it doesn't matter, they will see you play. If you are just hoping to get noticed, it's a lot easier to get eyeballs that haven't seen you play before if you're in Open at USAV compared to any level at AAU. There is so much going on at AAU that it's hard to get noticed. I can tell you that when my kid qualified for open at USAV, there was a lot more interest all of a sudden, for what it's worth. From a logistics standpoint, AAU is way better. The Clubs are obsessed with USAV, however, because "earning a bid" or playing well at USAV is a notch in their cap for national rankings. Clubs consider the winner of USAV GJNC Open as the real "national champion" but they also claim to be national champs if they win any level at either tournament.
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Post by notvballdad on May 16, 2024 17:43:24 GMT -5
I agree with the logistics of Orlando. I’ll argue with anyone that Triple Crown should be in Orlando because of all the reasons you just listed, and all the direct flights in and out. But USAV GJNC and AAUs aren’t on the same level, tournament wise. There are much better cities with better golf courses than Augusta National in Augusta GA, but The Masters is The Masters. The college coaches don't seem to care which one you go to if they already like you. If you have specific people watching you then it doesn't matter, they will see you play. If you are just hoping to get noticed, it's a lot easier to get eyeballs that haven't seen you play before if you're in Open at USAV compared to any level at AAU. There is so much going on at AAU that it's hard to get noticed. I can tell you that when my kid qualified for open at USAV, there was a lot more interest all of a sudden, for what it's worth. From a logistics standpoint, AAU is way better. The Clubs are obsessed with USAV, however, because "earning a bid" or playing well at USAV is a notch in their cap for national rankings. Clubs consider the winner of USAV GJNC Open as the real "national champion" but they also claim to be national champs if they win any level at either tournament. We had the opposite experience in terms of recruiting. We played USAV Open every year of club until 18s for clubs that had a relatively notable names. There was traffic or interest at qualifiers and nationals. It was AAU where we actually found our home in terms of college and we were playing with a different club for AAU that really didn't have any name recognition at all. I don't have a great answer or reason as to why and I bet if you asked most people would agree that USAV was the biggest reason they were recruited. Right now, simply more clubs play more of those tournaments but talented JVA kids at big name clubs aren't have any issue with finding college homes either. My theory is that college coaches go where there is the most cost effective means to find the most talent in one place and right now, that is definitely USAV because it is the preferred flavor for Girls Juniors. For boys juniors it is AAU. If girls staged a coup and changed the emphasis, coaches would refocus on AAU. I loved our time playing USAV but the more I look back, the more I lean towards the AAU model for more than just logistics reasons and some of the biggest gripes like Stay to Play. I just feel like that there does need to be a viable alternative to push USAV some to look at some things that are in the players and families best interest and that's where competition comes in. Right now, USAV is the gorilla and is growing by leaps and bounds so there isn't a lot of incentive to look at things differently. I just don't believe the trajectory they are on will sustain growth and might be accelerating towards a peak.
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Post by rainbowbadger on May 16, 2024 19:26:28 GMT -5
I just saw something on Twitter about Charlotte Vinson being hospitalized with sepsis. She’s a pin hitter for Munciana and a 2025 Indiana commit.
I’m not sure who’s behind this first Twitter account, but it’s been reposted by some folks I’d consider reliable.
Sending good vibes, etc. to her and her family.
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Post by OHVBKING on May 16, 2024 19:37:19 GMT -5
I think way too many people are entirely too caught up in USAV. We have been to USAV three times and AAU three times. Honestly I would much rather go to AAU for a number of reasons. 1) no stay to play BS and we always get a two or three bedroom condo 2) Orlando airport is easy. No buses to get a rental car, just walk right to the garage 3) Your kids ends her season a week earlier and that allows us to take some family time (vacation) 4) There is plenty of competition and I actually think there were more college coaches at AAU for my daughters 16s season than at USAV 5) Her team always seemed to perform better at qualifiers because they weren't so caught in trying to get a bid I agree with the logistics of Orlando. I’ll argue with anyone that Triple Crown should be in Orlando because of all the reasons you just listed, and all the direct flights in and out. But USAV GJNC and AAUs aren’t on the same level, tournament wise. There are much better cities with better golf courses than Augusta National in Augusta GA, but The Masters is The Masters. I can agree there is better overall talent at USAV, but I firmly believe there are more college coaches at AAU than at USAV. And here is why I think this, I looked around our court and counted college coaches several times. I also think Orlando is generally a lot cheaper trip
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Post by wonkaman on May 17, 2024 9:13:15 GMT -5
It is my understanding after talking to a number of coaches for boys volleyball that the reason for the AAU popularity is a revolt by many of the California boys teams. They did not think USAV issued enough bids for the California teams so they all bolted for AAU. The better non California teams were not satisfied with the USAV tournaments because without the California teams they were not competitive. So they went to the AAU as well. Now AAU is the tournament of choice for most of the elite boys teams.
Things can happen quickly if you do not appeal to the stronger teams or the elite parties.
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Post by itsallrelative on May 17, 2024 11:47:17 GMT -5
It is my understanding after talking to a number of coaches for boys volleyball that the reason for the AAU popularity is a revolt by many of the California boys teams. They did not think USAV issued enough bids for the California teams so they all bolted for AAU. The better non California teams were not satisfied with the USAV tournaments because without the California teams they were not competitive. So they went to the AAU as well. Now AAU is the tournament of choice for most of the elite boys teams. Things can happen quickly if you do not appeal to the stronger teams or the elite parties. There is no doubt that the Cali boys team led the revolt... my understanding was the the SOCAL region allowed the boys clubs to run tournaments during COVID, but attempted to take tournaments back over post- COVID, which didn't sit well. Basically, a fight over a revenue stream... JVA tried to lead the move to AAUs years ago...however, it didn't work for many reasons. it seems that a lot of former JVA only teams are now playing USAV at some level...
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Post by VBallFan on Jun 4, 2024 13:23:02 GMT -5
Back on topic 17/18 open Girls Club, what’s new?
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ezevb
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Post by ezevb on Jun 4, 2024 17:02:31 GMT -5
Back on topic 17/18 open Girls Club, what’s new? Just “patiently” waiting on June 15, AAUs, and GJNC!
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 6, 2024 1:05:47 GMT -5
I just saw something on Twitter about Charlotte Vinson being hospitalized with sepsis. She’s a pin hitter for Munciana and a 2025 Indiana commit. I’m not sure who’s behind this first Twitter account, but it’s been reposted by some folks I’d consider reliable. Sending good vibes, etc. to her and her family. Do we have an update on her? What a talent....
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 6, 2024 4:26:58 GMT -5
I just saw something on Twitter about Charlotte Vinson being hospitalized with sepsis. She’s a pin hitter for Munciana and a 2025 Indiana commit. I’m not sure who’s behind this first Twitter account, but it’s been reposted by some folks I’d consider reliable. Sending good vibes, etc. to her and her family. Do we have an update on her? What a talent.... The last update I’ve found was from 5/19, the day after the original reports. It doesn’t really say much. However, what looks like her mom’s Twitter account has been reposting supportive tweets about Charlotte. And last night she reposted Indiana’s announcement that PrepVB ranked their 2024 recruiting class #4 nationally, so from that I am inferring that Charlotte is still with us.
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Post by 4theloveofvb on Jun 6, 2024 5:39:50 GMT -5
Keep Charlotte in your thoughts and prayers.
Last update was that she is progressing but still has a long recovery ahead of her. She is still in the hospital as her lungs and kidneys heal and still require some breathing support and dialysis. She has started some PT.
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