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Post by socalplayer on Jan 10, 2024 17:33:00 GMT -5
My money is on Hentz or another middle. 4 outsides is plenty. We know Larson and Krob serve the same roll and Karch seemingly flavors blonds so count KP and Frantic in. Middles seem to be the most uncertain so Iād load up there. Nicole Fawcett would certainly disagree with you š |
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Post by Reach on Jan 10, 2024 18:43:28 GMT -5
My money is on Hentz or another middle. 4 outsides is plenty. We know Larson and Krob serve the same roll and Karch seemingly flavors blonds so count KP and Frantic in. Middles seem to be the most uncertain so Iād load up there. Nicole Fawcett would certainly disagree with you š Fawcett was an opp tho š |
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Post by jackson5vb on Jan 10, 2024 18:51:31 GMT -5
In FIVB, can Player A start, then be replaced by Player B, then be replaced by Player C, and then Player A? As long as those are part of their 6 subs?
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Post by VolleyballMag on Jan 10, 2024 19:35:00 GMT -5
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Post by midnightblue on Jan 10, 2024 21:04:45 GMT -5
In FIVB, can Player A start, then be replaced by Player B, then be replaced by Player C, and then Player A? As long as those are part of their 6 subs? No. Player A can be substituted out for Player B. But only Player A can sub back in for Player B. |
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Post by rogero1 on Jan 10, 2024 21:13:35 GMT -5
In FIVB, can Player A start, then be replaced by Player B, then be replaced by Player C, and then Player A? As long as those are part of their 6 subs? No. Player B can only be replaced by Player A. From FIVB Rules: 15.6 LIMITATION OF SUBSTITUTIONS 15.6.1 A player of the starting line-up may leave the game, but only once in a set, and re-enter, but only once in a set, and only to his/her previous position in the line-up. 15.6.2 A substitute player may enter the game in place of a player of the starting line-up, but only once per set, and he/she can only be substituted by the same starting player. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 10, 2024 21:17:45 GMT -5
What is the main reason for IOC's rejection of FIVB's request for roster increase? Is the IOC worried the Olympic village have no space to accomodate the extra two players? The expense involved to add two extra players really isn't prohibitive for the Olympic host honestly. The only reason I can think of for the IOC to decline FIVB's request is that they are worried this will set off a domino effect, if volleyball gets to increase their roster, what about the other team sports? They will want to do the same, then I suppose yes, all that can add up to a lot more space potentially. |
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Post by volleyguy on Jan 11, 2024 2:10:03 GMT -5
What is the main reason for IOC's rejection of FIVB's request for roster increase? Is the IOC worried the Olympic village have no space to accomodate the extra two players? The expense involved to add two extra players really isn't prohibitive for the Olympic host honestly. The only reason I can think of for the IOC to decline FIVB's request is that they are worried this will set off a domino effect, if volleyball gets to increase their roster, what about the other team sports? They will want to do the same, then I suppose yes, all that can add up to a lot more space potentially. It's not just two players, it's 24 players. Housing, feeding and providing security for the contingent of athletes is obviously complex, expensive and hard to manage. Coupled with the fact that the Paris Olympics is implementing a format with fewer matches and more rest time in between matches. it begs the question of why an increase in roster size is either warranted or necessary. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 11, 2024 2:35:45 GMT -5
What is the main reason for IOC's rejection of FIVB's request for roster increase? Is the IOC worried the Olympic village have no space to accomodate the extra two players? The expense involved to add two extra players really isn't prohibitive for the Olympic host honestly. The only reason I can think of for the IOC to decline FIVB's request is that they are worried this will set off a domino effect, if volleyball gets to increase their roster, what about the other team sports? They will want to do the same, then I suppose yes, all that can add up to a lot more space potentially. It's not just two players, it's 24 players. Housing, feeding and providing security for the contingent of athletes is obviously complex, expensive and hard to manage. Coupled with the fact that the Paris Olympics is implementing a format with fewer matches and more rest time in between matches. it begs the question of why an increase in roster size is either warranted or necessary. For the teams it would be better always, more players, more options, this is independent of the number of matches required. As for expense, hosting an Olympics has never been a cheap affair, that is true, but the extra cost of increased players is not going to drastically increase the expense if you look at it as a % of what is already a massive expensive affair. |
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Post by volleyguy on Jan 11, 2024 2:41:11 GMT -5
It's not just two players, it's 24 players. Housing, feeding and providing security for the contingent of athletes is obviously complex, expensive and hard to manage. Coupled with the fact that the Paris Olympics is implementing a format with fewer matches and more rest time in between matches. it begs the question of why an increase in roster size is either warranted or necessary. For the teams it would be better always, more players, more options, this is independent of the number of matches required. On the contrary, most teams are looking for a stable line-up that produces the best and most consistent results. A larger roster and more options isn't an essential part of of the game plan, it's a hedge. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 11, 2024 2:56:28 GMT -5
For the teams it would be better always, more players, more options, this is independent of the number of matches required. On the contrary, most teams are looking for a stable line-up that produces the best and most consistent results. A larger roster and more options isn't an essential part of of the game plan, it's a hedge. No, a stable line-up and hedge aren't contradictory. Teams always want extra options. Given a choice, all NTs want a larger roster. |
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Post by volleyguy on Jan 11, 2024 2:59:23 GMT -5
On the contrary, most teams are looking for a stable line-up that produces the best and most consistent results. A larger roster and more options isn't an essential part of of the game plan, it's a hedge. No, a stable line-up and hedge aren't contradictory. Teams always want extra options. Given a choice, all NTs want a larger roster. Yes, everyone wants more options. That has nothing to do with whether they are warranted. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 11, 2024 3:03:24 GMT -5
No, a stable line-up and hedge aren't contradictory. Teams always want extra options. Given a choice, all NTs want a larger roster. Yes, everyone wants more options. That has nothing to do with whether they are warranted. This has everything to do with it. More player options=more ability for teams to strategize and ultimately compete to win a match. Restrictions on roster size to 12 always mean team performance is compromised to some extent. FIVB knows what the teams want. They need to do a better job of making a case to IOC to increase the roster for the teams. |
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Post by volleyguy on Jan 11, 2024 3:15:26 GMT -5
Yes, everyone wants more options. That has nothing to do with whether they are warranted. This has everything to do with it. More player options=more ability for teams to strategize and ultimately compete to win a match. FIVB knows what the teams want. They need to do a better job of making a case to IOC to increase the roster for the teams. In the grand scheme of things, it's the IOC that has responsibility for managing the Olympic Village. Every sport can make the argument that increasing their roster size gives them better options and better ability to strategize and compete. Volleyball isn't unique in this regard, and it doesn't have a more compelling argument than any other sport. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 11, 2024 3:42:13 GMT -5
This has everything to do with it. More player options=more ability for teams to strategize and ultimately compete to win a match. FIVB knows what the teams want. They need to do a better job of making a case to IOC to increase the roster for the teams. In the grand scheme of things, it's the IOC that has responsibility for managing the Olympic Village. Every sport can make the argument that increasing their roster size gives them better options and better ability to strategize and compete. Volleyball isn't unique in this regard, and it doesn't have a more compelling argument than any other sport. Well in that case, FIVB would have to say volleyball is espeically shortchanged by the current roster limit, hehehe.  |
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