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Post by soljah808 on Oct 16, 2024 0:25:55 GMT -5
That's a negative. As much as Hawaii has been in the crapper....they still help pay the bills for most of the other Olympic sports and the dept. Dropping them down to FCS is a non-option though I recognize it's been a rough decade if you are a UH football fan. If the other BWC schools can do it, without football, or having a football team in the FCS, why would Hawaii not be able to, just wondering. Because football is the bread and butter of the Athletic dept. Shocking I know considering how bad they've been for a while. The other programs can do it without football however, they don't have 2,500 miles of ocean separating themselves and their nearest opponent. For starters. |
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 16, 2024 0:27:23 GMT -5
I wish the Hawaii Athletic Department would quit kidding themselves, thinking the Hawaii Football Program is a FBS football program. The Hawaii Football Program is at Best a FCS program. I mean, what FBS football program plays their football games on a High School football field. The Hawaii Athletic Program needs to serious think about dropping their football program to the FCS level, try to enter the Big Sky Conference, and keep all their other sports in the BWC. Do you realize that you are standing at the train station, and your train left 15 minutes ago? |
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 16, 2024 0:42:42 GMT -5
If the other BWC schools can do it, without football, or having a football team in the FCS, why would Hawaii not be able to, just wondering. Because football is the bread and butter of the Athletic dept. Shocking I know considering how bad they've been for a while. The other programs can do it without football however, they don't have 2,500 miles of ocean separating themselves and their nearest opponent. For starters. True. But Hawaii has Hawaiian Air to cover those miles, for them. No other BWC team has an Airline doing that for them. |
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 16, 2024 0:43:57 GMT -5
Because football is the bread and butter of the Athletic dept. Shocking I know considering how bad they've been for a while. The other programs can do it without football however, they don't have 2,500 miles of ocean separating themselves and their nearest opponent. For starters. True. But Hawaii has Hawaiian Air to cover those miles, for them. No other BWC team has an Airline doing that for them. In fact, with the airline merger, Hawaii now has 2 airlines to chose from to cover those miles. |
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 16, 2024 0:52:29 GMT -5
Because football is the bread and butter of the Athletic dept. Shocking I know considering how bad they've been for a while. The other programs can do it without football however, they don't have 2,500 miles of ocean separating themselves and their nearest opponent. For starters. True. But Hawaii has Hawaiian Air to cover those miles, for them. No other BWC team has an Airline doing that for them. Does Hawaiian Airlines get advertising time during football games? Would they be willing to provide so much support if football was downgraded, or eliminated? |
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Post by soljah808 on Oct 16, 2024 0:56:31 GMT -5
Because football is the bread and butter of the Athletic dept. Shocking I know considering how bad they've been for a while. The other programs can do it without football however, they don't have 2,500 miles of ocean separating themselves and their nearest opponent. For starters. True. But Hawaii has Hawaiian Air to cover those miles, for them. No other BWC team has an Airline doing that for them. Good point and I'll concede to you that one. But with that said.....FCS is still a non-option. |
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 16, 2024 1:10:59 GMT -5
True. But Hawaii has Hawaiian Air to cover those miles, for them. No other BWC team has an Airline doing that for them. Does Hawaiian Airlines get advertising time during football games? Would they be willing to provide so much support if football was downgraded, or eliminated? They still may, since Hawaii football is the only game in town. I am not saying, eliminate football, altogether, that is a no go. |
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 16, 2024 1:13:44 GMT -5
True. But Hawaii has Hawaiian Air to cover those miles, for them. No other BWC team has an Airline doing that for them. Good point and I'll concede to you that one. But with that said.....FCS is still a non-option. Hawaii is going no where in the FBS division. But they can make an impact at the FCS level. |
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Post by gobruins on Oct 16, 2024 2:47:26 GMT -5
I hope our 4 teams can continue to compete in the Big West. I would especially miss those MVB grudge matches vs the Beach and Irvine. Does anyone know if the MPSF Men's VB will be impacted by the PAC 12 departures? Pac-12 departures are not going to conferences with MVB, so it will not have an impact on MPSF. The change coming to MPSF is the addition of two new D-2 programs, Vanguard and Menlo. |
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Post by Psychopotamus on Oct 16, 2024 4:49:49 GMT -5
Good point and I'll concede to you that one. But with that said.....FCS is still a non-option. Hawaii is going no where in the FBS division. But they can make an impact at the FCS level. Please leave your black cloud away from the football team. "Can not" implies it is impossible. It wasn't that long ago that they were vying for conference titles, were in the rankings conversation, and getting national recognition for having a good team and sending players to the NFL. This is still a relatively new coaching staff after the program was essentially gutted, so it'll still take a few years before we can see how good they are. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Oct 16, 2024 15:29:08 GMT -5
Hawaii is going no where in the FBS division. But they can make an impact at the FCS level. Please leave your black cloud away from the football team. "Can not" implies it is impossible. It wasn't that long ago that they were vying for conference titles, were in the rankings conversation, and getting national recognition for having a good team and sending players to the NFL. This is still a relatively new coaching staff after the program was essentially gutted, so it'll still take a few years before we can see how good they are. You are talking to a deaf ear. Football is the only game in town for everyone else outside of the volleyball sphere. In this current state, Hawai'i will pocket 6 mil plus with all the buckets the MWC has laid out, as a football member only, (roughly 5%). That 6 mil is more than they received including the recent bowl game season 2020. They have been in 14 bowl appearances last beating Houston in 2020. No other BW school has been to a bowl game. Hawai'i will not drop to the FCS level. come 2026, they will receive %11 like everyone else in TV money, plus no more travel and hotel subsidies, which will save them an additional 2 million a year. The current agreement with the MWC is until 2032. Long-time deep-pocket donors behind the scenes have already pledged millions to the school. As the football program receives more money, it will trickle down to the rest of the athletic department and the non-revenue teams. The MWC is in talks with Northern Illinois and Toledo out of the MAC for football-only membership. If that happens, the MWC will be the only G5 conference in 5 different time zones, appealing to the sports cable networks. according to USA Today sportsbook wire, Saturday's match against Boise St. was a heavy-betting game because it was the last game of the day. Betters in Vegas were glued to the game with millions of dollars changing hands. |
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Post by makeitwork on Oct 17, 2024 1:41:08 GMT -5
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 17, 2024 1:56:57 GMT -5
Oh oh!  |
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Post by makeitwork on Oct 19, 2024 3:22:18 GMT -5
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Post by Timeless on Oct 21, 2024 3:43:12 GMT -5
usctrojans.com/sports/mens-volleyball/schedule/2025Outrigger Invitational (March 13-15) - Penn State, USC, Ball State, Hawaii Good rpi schedule so far with the addition of the two Harvard matches to start the season. Sprinkle in a few gems out east (CC, NEC, more EIVA would be ideal).
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