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Post by ethanfox on Jul 17, 2024 22:19:52 GMT -5
How are you seeing that exactly..? Krause has never played 6-ro in her 3 year career, while Murray is an all american Murray is better than Krause in the back row, but both are pretty awesome overall. I think with Murray having those off-court problems and being a Sophomore and Krause coming off injury, being from Nebraska, and entering her last year, it will be Krause’s to lose. I could see a situation where those two and Landfair “share”, each getting around 800 attempts. No girl… it’s Murray’s to lose. Despite all the stuff that’s happened w/ her, she was easily a top 3 6ro OH as a freshman. Her passing will keep her on the court full time - there’s a reason Krause has never played backrow at Nebraska.
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Post by tablealgebra on Jul 18, 2024 0:08:53 GMT -5
Honestly all the OH's with the exception of Franklin and Murray should be cancelled from top 5 due to passing. I put Hudson on my list because of not wanting to put 4 Nebraska players but in reality if I was building a team from B1G players I would choose Franklin and Murray at OH because the passing is that important. Look how much lack of passing cost that NORCECA team. Hudson, Mruzik, Terry, Wuch, Londot, and Landfair all are not good enough passers to hold up at a high level right now. Hudson has and will hold up well in the NCAA in passing. She had one mediocre passing match against an Olympic qualified team with a team of rookies where she was the youngest outside on the roster. people were critical of her offense, which was fair. She is a year and two years behind other OH playing. Hudson doesn’t deserve to have her passing described in the same breath as those others. Understood. Actually, this actually was why I had originally named Hudson over those other when I did my snap Top 5. When she was a freshman I thought she had been passing decently (though they hid her a lot) but last year she didn't progress the way I'd hoped. I think she's less powerful than Mruzik and Terry and doesn't have the huge reach and vertical that can make Landfair unblockable when she is on, but she has amazing grit and with an experienced Anderson at setter could really do some good things this year. Weirdly, Chicoine actually seemed to be the worse passer last year. Honestly, if those two can progress Purdue could really do some things this year because that group is a terror in system.
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Post by minnley on Jul 18, 2024 6:32:53 GMT -5
Let's shake it up a bit. 1. Franklin 2. Rodriguez 3. Reilly 4. Collyer 5. Landfair Honorable Mentions - Booth, Murray, Beason, Hudson, Mruzik, Terry, Haworth and several other obvious ones that I'm sure I'm overlooking. It pains me not to list any of my Golden Gophers, but I'm trying to be objective here.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 18, 2024 7:00:32 GMT -5
What do you mean? You listed Landfair.
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Post by hoosierman on Jul 18, 2024 7:03:30 GMT -5
What do you mean? You listed Landfair. Landfair is not a Gopher
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Post by aardvark on Jul 18, 2024 7:05:33 GMT -5
She was a Gopher though.
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Post by WildwoodVB on Jul 18, 2024 11:20:22 GMT -5
Landfair Franklin Hudson Booth Haworth
Close: Rodriguez, Colvin, Terry, Murray, Fuehrbringer, Beason
Not Close: Mruzik, Reilly, Londot
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 18, 2024 11:22:05 GMT -5
Landfair Franklin Hudson Booth Haworth Close: Rodriguez, Colvin, Terry, Murray, Fuehrbringer, Beason Not Close: Mruzik, Reilly, Londot LOL @ you trying to say someone who hasn't played a single college point is close but the reigning B1G SOY at the same position isn't.
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Post by WildwoodVB on Jul 18, 2024 11:24:27 GMT -5
Patience, grasshopper.
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Post by babyhusker on Jul 18, 2024 12:12:26 GMT -5
Landfair Franklin Hudson Booth Haworth Close: Rodriguez, Colvin, Terry, Murray, Fuehrbringer, Beason Not Close: Mruzik, Reilly, Londot So what I’m hearing is, you’ve never watched Reilly, Londot, or Terry play a game. Welcome to college volleyball, we’re happy to have you.
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jul 18, 2024 12:43:49 GMT -5
Murray is better than Krause in the back row, but both are pretty awesome overall. I think with Murray having those off-court problems and being a Sophomore and Krause coming off injury, being from Nebraska, and entering her last year, it will be Krause’s to lose. I could see a situation where those two and Landfair “share”, each getting around 800 attempts. How is coming off of an injury and being from Nebraska an advantage exactly?? Assuming all else being equal, since Nebraska’s fans are mostly from Nebraska, they would like to see a fellow Nebraskan play, especially one coming off injury with only one year of eligibility remaining.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 18, 2024 12:56:58 GMT -5
Let's shake it up a bit. 1. Franklin 2. Rodriguez 3. Reilly 4. Collyer 5. Landfair Honorable Mentions - Booth, Murray, Beason, Hudson, Mruzik, Terry, Haworth and several other obvious ones that I'm sure I'm overlooking. It pains me not to list any of my Golden Gophers, but I'm trying to be objective here. Landfair should not be on this list. If we had a list of worst passing and defending OH, yes.
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Post by tablealgebra on Jul 18, 2024 12:58:49 GMT -5
Landfair Franklin Hudson Booth Haworth Close: Rodriguez, Colvin, Terry, Murray, Fuehrbringer, Beason Not Close: Mruzik, Reilly, Londot LOL @ you trying to say someone who hasn't played a single college point is close but the reigning B1G SOY at the same position isn't. I struggle so much with rating Reilly. Because given in system balls, setting to elite hitters, she is great. But then what's really great - her or the team? Against Texas, when they were out of system all the time, Reilly looked rattled and did not help the team recover at all; sure, the whole team kind of folded under the relentless pressure and confidence of that Texas team, but you could also argue that Reilly could have been the player that helped them out of that and she did not show she could. So I wonder what would happen if you switch Camryn Haworth (who is dealing with out of system stuff all the time but sometimes is too predictable or easy to read) and Reilly (who is being spoon-fed a lot of stuff but then really makes it tick when everything is working well). And then I start to question if Reilly is really SOY material or just a product of the only good B1G team from last year who had a healthy, consistent 5-1 setter. (to be fair, she is also a solid blocker and defender for that position) Part of me thinks she's a candidate for top 5 player in the B1G, part of me thinks she has a chance of being the 6th best setter in the B1G next year from an objective standpoint (again, she won't look like it because of her team feeding her perfect passes on the regular). Of course, I'm assuming a healthy revitalized Shaffmaster and as-advertised Starck and Fuerbringer when saying this, and also showing that my handle on the intricacies of the game could be better, but honestly, it's not like people who know the game really well don't also argue constantly about whether certain setters are good or not either. As for the rest, I think not actually rating the freshman is best, and I agree that Mruzik and Londot (two of the very best ball strikers in the B1G from last year) both deserve Top 5 consideration (but, along with TayLa, don't deserve to be actual top 5 due to passing). I noticed that TTA is listed as an opposite with LOVB Madison this year and wonder if all three of Mruzik, TayLa and Londot aren't going to eventually get the same treatment.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 18, 2024 13:02:35 GMT -5
Landfair Franklin Hudson Booth Haworth Close: Rodriguez, Colvin, Terry, Murray, Fuehrbringer, Beason Not Close: Mruzik, Reilly, Londot Omg this is a joke
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 18, 2024 13:04:59 GMT -5
Stopped reading after 6th best setter in the B1G. You’re just not being serious at that point.
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