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Post by chibadgerfan on Jul 18, 2024 13:12:33 GMT -5
Murray is better than Krause in the back row, but both are pretty awesome overall. I think with Murray having those off-court problems and being a Sophomore and Krause coming off injury, being from Nebraska, and entering her last year, it will be Krause’s to lose. I could see a situation where those two and Landfair “share”, each getting around 800 attempts. No girl… it’s Murray’s to lose. Despite all the stuff that’s happened w/ her, she was easily a top 3 6ro OH as a freshman. Her passing will keep her on the court full time - there’s a reason Krause has never played backrow at Nebraska. Alright, let’s see what happens.
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Post by hopefuldawg on Jul 18, 2024 13:59:10 GMT -5
Stopped reading after 6th best setter in the B1G. You’re just not being serious at that point. But you missed when they wondered if Londot would "eventually" become an opposite. 😂
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 18, 2024 14:06:37 GMT -5
Stopped reading after 6th best setter in the B1G. You’re just not being serious at that point. But you missed when they wondered if Londot would "eventually" become an opposite. 😂 She played Opp before OH.
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 18, 2024 14:08:23 GMT -5
But you missed when they wondered if Londot would "eventually" become an opposite. 😂 She played Opp before OH. Yea, that’s their point.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 18, 2024 14:30:35 GMT -5
She played Opp before OH. Yea, that’s their point. In training all week with covid and didn't go back to get the context. 🙄
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Post by tablealgebra on Jul 22, 2024 2:49:00 GMT -5
Stopped reading after 6th best setter in the B1G. You’re just not being serious at that point. Okay sure. Let me be more serious. 1. Nebraska, by some accounts, has 5 of the best 7 players in the B1G. People are trying to not put 3-4 up there in their lists, but they're all out there. The one I'm least convinced by is Reilly. 2. I think 6 setters have a chance to win B1G SOY this year. Tuaninga*, Haworth, Starck, Fuerbringer, Anderson and Reilly. Is there a real chance that someone would rate the six of them and put Reilly 6th? Well, anything can happen, but no, not really. However, I'm also not convinced that trading her for one of those other 5 setters would change the standings in that other team's favor, and so I don't really know. If you're asking me on a day that I'm not sick of Nebraska's players being overhyped, then I would tell you she will probably be the best setter in the league next year. *I mentioned Shaffmaster in the previous comment but that was me misremembering my prior list I'd made.
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Post by tablealgebra on Jul 22, 2024 2:57:20 GMT -5
She played Opp before OH. Yea, that’s their point. well the actual point is that they think I don't know that fact.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jul 22, 2024 3:07:42 GMT -5
Stopped reading after 6th best setter in the B1G. You’re just not being serious at that point. Okay sure. Let me be more serious. 1. Nebraska, by some accounts, has 5 of the best 7 players in the B1G. People are trying to not put 3-4 up there in their lists, but they're all out there. The one I'm least convinced by is Reilly. 2. I think 6 setters have a chance to win B1G SOY this year. Tuaninga*, Haworth, Starck, Fuerbringer, Anderson and Reilly. Is there a real chance that someone would rate the six of them and put Reilly 6th? Well, anything can happen, but no, not really. However, I'm also not convinced that trading her for one of those other 5 setters would change the standings in that other team's favor, and so I don't really know. If you're asking me on a day that I'm not sick of Nebraska's players being overhyped, then I would tell you she will probably be the best setter in the league next year. *I mentioned Shaffmaster in the previous comment but that was me misremembering my prior list I'd made. Wait Anderson, the Anderson who couldn’t even consistently set// Start at Purdue? And two freshman who have yet to play? Haworth I get. Tuaninga maybe? But what in the world at the other picks Yes Reilly had a lot to work with, doesn’t change the fact she had some beautiful hands and set distribution.
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Post by gohuskervolleyball on Jul 22, 2024 10:56:45 GMT -5
💀 insanity
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jul 22, 2024 12:58:22 GMT -5
LOL @ you trying to say someone who hasn't played a single college point is close but the reigning B1G SOY at the same position isn't. I struggle so much with rating Reilly. Because given in system balls, setting to elite hitters, she is great. But then what's really great - her or the team? Against Texas, when they were out of system all the time, Reilly looked rattled and did not help the team recover at all; sure, the whole team kind of folded under the relentless pressure and confidence of that Texas team, but you could also argue that Reilly could have been the player that helped them out of that and she did not show she could. So I wonder what would happen if you switch Camryn Haworth (who is dealing with out of system stuff all the time but sometimes is too predictable or easy to read) and Reilly (who is being spoon-fed a lot of stuff but then really makes it tick when everything is working well). And then I start to question if Reilly is really SOY material or just a product of the only good B1G team from last year who had a healthy, consistent 5-1 setter. (to be fair, she is also a solid blocker and defender for that position) Part of me thinks she's a candidate for top 5 player in the B1G, part of me thinks she has a chance of being the 6th best setter in the B1G next year from an objective standpoint (again, she won't look like it because of her team feeding her perfect passes on the regular). Of course, I'm assuming a healthy revitalized Shaffmaster and as-advertised Starck and Fuerbringer when saying this, and also showing that my handle on the intricacies of the game could be better, but honestly, it's not like people who know the game really well don't also argue constantly about whether certain setters are good or not either. As for the rest, I think not actually rating the freshman is best, and I agree that Mruzik and Londot (two of the very best ball strikers in the B1G from last year) both deserve Top 5 consideration (but, along with TayLa, don't deserve to be actual top 5 due to passing). I noticed that TTA is listed as an opposite with LOVB Madison this year and wonder if all three of Mruzik, TayLa and Londot aren't going to eventually get the same treatment. The sixth best setter in the Big?? I’ll have what you’re smoking.
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Post by tablealgebra on Jul 22, 2024 20:15:39 GMT -5
Okay sure. Let me be more serious. 1. Nebraska, by some accounts, has 5 of the best 7 players in the B1G. People are trying to not put 3-4 up there in their lists, but they're all out there. The one I'm least convinced by is Reilly. 2. I think 6 setters have a chance to win B1G SOY this year. Tuaninga*, Haworth, Starck, Fuerbringer, Anderson and Reilly. Is there a real chance that someone would rate the six of them and put Reilly 6th? Well, anything can happen, but no, not really. However, I'm also not convinced that trading her for one of those other 5 setters would change the standings in that other team's favor, and so I don't really know. If you're asking me on a day that I'm not sick of Nebraska's players being overhyped, then I would tell you she will probably be the best setter in the league next year. *I mentioned Shaffmaster in the previous comment but that was me misremembering my prior list I'd made. Wait Anderson, the Anderson who couldn’t even consistently set// Start at Purdue? And two freshman who have yet to play? Haworth I get. Tuaninga maybe? But what in the world at the other picks Yes Reilly had a lot to work with, doesn’t change the fact she had some beautiful hands and set distribution. So, let's put Bergen Reilly on Wisconsin and Charlie Fuerbringer on Nebraska. After October 1, do you think their records change because of that? Does Wisconsin have a significantly better chance of beating Nebraska now? After all, Wisconsin is not *that bad* of a passing team.
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Post by bruinsgold on Jul 22, 2024 20:33:14 GMT -5
Okay sure. Let me be more serious. 1. Nebraska, by some accounts, has 5 of the best 7 players in the B1G. People are trying to not put 3-4 up there in their lists, but they're all out there. The one I'm least convinced by is Reilly. 2. I think 6 setters have a chance to win B1G SOY this year. Tuaninga*, Haworth, Starck, Fuerbringer, Anderson and Reilly. Is there a real chance that someone would rate the six of them and put Reilly 6th? Well, anything can happen, but no, not really. However, I'm also not convinced that trading her for one of those other 5 setters would change the standings in that other team's favor, and so I don't really know. If you're asking me on a day that I'm not sick of Nebraska's players being overhyped, then I would tell you she will probably be the best setter in the league next year. *I mentioned Shaffmaster in the previous comment but that was me misremembering my prior list I'd made. Wait Anderson, the Anderson who couldn’t even consistently set// Start at Purdue? And two freshman who have yet to play? Haworth I get. Tuaninga maybe? But what in the world at the other picks Yes Reilly had a lot to work with, doesn’t change the fact she had some beautiful hands and set distribution. You could've made your point without speaking so poorly of Anderson, thank you!
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 22, 2024 20:39:41 GMT -5
I think 6 setters have a chance to win B1G SOY this year. Tuaninga*, Haworth, Starck, Fuerbringer, Anderson and Reilly. Is there a real chance that someone would rate the six of them and put Reilly 6th? Well, anything can happen, but no, not really. Lets call a spade a spade, the three primary metrics that matter for SOY are 1 - how the team did, 2- assists per set, and 3- team hitting percentage. Other than that, some setter would have to have insanely higher periphery stats to overcompensate for NOT being the best in those three primary categories. Nebraska is pretty likely to finish top 2 in the big 10, so that already puts her above most of those other setters (it's surely NOT going to be USC or Indiana), Reilley was #1 in assists per set and Nebraska #2 in team hitting percentage last year and they return every single player. Sure anything can happen but even entertaining Reilley as being 6th on the depth chart of likely SOY candidates in the Big 10 next year is just silly.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jul 22, 2024 20:41:24 GMT -5
Wait Anderson, the Anderson who couldn’t even consistently set// Start at Purdue? And two freshman who have yet to play? Haworth I get. Tuaninga maybe? But what in the world at the other picks Yes Reilly had a lot to work with, doesn’t change the fact she had some beautiful hands and set distribution. So, let's put Bergen Reilly on Wisconsin and Charlie Fuerbringer on Nebraska. After October 1, do you think their records change because of that? Does Wisconsin have a significantly better chance of beating Nebraska now? After all, Wisconsin is not *that bad* of a passing team. I don’t know because Charlie hasn’t set a single collegiate point. That’s my point. I can say if you put Bergen on usc they do better and I think Mia may hold Nebraska a little more back. Haworth I Stan so I think they’re equal imo.
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Post by babyhusker on Jul 22, 2024 21:01:49 GMT -5
So, let's put Bergen Reilly on Wisconsin and Charlie Fuerbringer on Nebraska. After October 1, do you think their records change because of that? Does Wisconsin have a significantly better chance of beating Nebraska now? After all, Wisconsin is not *that bad* of a passing team. I don’t know because Charlie hasn’t set a single collegiate point. That’s my point. I can say if you put Bergen on usc they do better and I think Mia may hold Nebraska a little more back. Haworth I Stan so I think they’re equal imo. Haworth is an icon. I could watch her serve all day.
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