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Post by vbnerd on Jul 24, 2024 16:19:14 GMT -5
As part of the house settlement, with the new scholarship/roster limits, the Athletic is reporting...
"Volleyball is going from a 4.5 scholarship limit to a roster limit of 18."
So a program could now scholarship 18 players, but they can only carry 18 players.
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Post by thelblive on Jul 24, 2024 16:32:14 GMT -5
Long Beach State will have 18 scholarships for 2025-2026 season
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2024 16:44:16 GMT -5
Long Beach is so cheap to attend compared to other mpsf/big west schools, cali kids were basically on scholarship going there.
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Post by servenpass311 on Jul 24, 2024 16:54:11 GMT -5
As part of the house settlement, with the new scholarship/roster limits, the Athletic is reporting... "Volleyball is going from a 4.5 scholarship limit to a roster limit of 18." So a program could now scholarship 18 players, but they can only carry 18 players. That is for women, likely they will cut other sports that are not those listed. |
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Post by wilbur on Jul 24, 2024 17:10:40 GMT -5
Long Beach State will have 18 scholarships for 2025-2026 season they already had that in place for coming season and called in NIL funded grants or whatever, LB MVB was quick to navigate the NIL benefits but this NCAA direction is minimizing this and also simplifying so the NIL money can go straight to knipe and he can use as scholarships or how he wants. They can keep funding domestic players tuition for all rostered players (limit of 18) for domestic or foreign. The big change is players may need to be cut this next year at LB to get down to the 18 man limit for 25/26 season. I want to know how red shirts are factored in and if programs can have extra players beyond 18 and just not activate them unless there are injuries or not at all for a full season but just call them practice players. I wonder what the impact and fine print will be for sports like MVB where there were tons of athletes that are playing that have no expectation of a scholarship and were playing for the love of the game only. |
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Post by gtrich on Jul 24, 2024 17:55:49 GMT -5
I’m hoping when this is officially announced it’s
4.5 scholarships and unlimited roster
Or
Unlimited scholarships and max 18
Otherwise, there are going to be a bunch of kids that get cut to get some of these 25-30 person rosters down to 18, or, the 2025 kids are going to get screwed when schools let their seniors graduate and don’t bring in any freshman, or a little of both.
At 18, Lewis would need to cut around 40% of their kids.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2024 18:14:10 GMT -5
I’m hoping when this is officially announced it’s 4.5 scholarships and unlimited roster Or Unlimited scholarships and max 18 Otherwise, there are going to be a bunch of kids that get cut to get some of these 25-30 person rosters down to 18, or, the 2025 kids are going to get screwed when schools let their seniors graduate and don’t bring in any freshman, or a little of both. At 18, Lewis would need to cut around 40% of their kids. Why does Lewis need such an inflated roster? Half those guys will never play. |
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Post by wilbur on Jul 24, 2024 18:29:34 GMT -5
I’m hoping when this is officially announced it’s 4.5 scholarships and unlimited roster Or Unlimited scholarships and max 18 Otherwise, there are going to be a bunch of kids that get cut to get some of these 25-30 person rosters down to 18, or, the 2025 kids are going to get screwed when schools let their seniors graduate and don’t bring in any freshman, or a little of both. At 18, Lewis would need to cut around 40% of their kids. I hope so too but doubt it. Most of the difference will probably be the 2025 class. The transfer portal has already reduced how many high schoolers are recruited per program but the number of programs keeps increasing which is good news. I think a 18 man roster is more healthy but if red shirts are included in the 18, then assuming 2-3 redshirts which is common, you are down to 15-16 active players, add in a few injuries, academic or other issues and things get uncomfortably thin consistently on bad luck years. Many women's programs and some men's work with an 18 man roster and most pro teams get by with much less but they don't have developmental players as much and can add players much easier during the season if needed due to injury. I hate that it may reduce #s in the sport but I do think it will be better for the actual game and team dynamic. Players #19-24 on UCLA's roster playing on another team for example. |
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Post by wilbur on Jul 24, 2024 18:35:22 GMT -5
I’m hoping when this is officially announced it’s 4.5 scholarships and unlimited roster Or Unlimited scholarships and max 18 Otherwise, there are going to be a bunch of kids that get cut to get some of these 25-30 person rosters down to 18, or, the 2025 kids are going to get screwed when schools let their seniors graduate and don’t bring in any freshman, or a little of both. At 18, Lewis would need to cut around 40% of their kids. Why does Lewis need such an inflated roster? Half those guys will never play. they don't but for some schools, sports teams are a marketing tool for admissions for athletes that can afford full tuition or close to it. LB has a huge roster and they don't have that dynamic but they cast a wide net, and I think, gamble that #19-30+ will pan out in the future because they can afford to have a staff to support that size roster. Do the football teams really need 105? |
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Post by volleyball20102011 on Jul 24, 2024 18:55:11 GMT -5
I think a lot of programs will look to “endorse” a club team that is closely linked with their intercollegiate program.
Lots of college program want bigger rosters on the men’s side because lots of guys find the sport and develop later compared to the women’s side.
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Post by wilbur on Jul 24, 2024 19:08:56 GMT -5
I think a lot of programs will look to “endorse” a club team that is closely linked with their intercollegiate program. Lots of college program want bigger rosters on the men’s side because lots of guys find the sport and develop later compared to the women’s side. that would be awesome if it happens. Basically a JV team playing against other schools JV teams. seems like a better system than current. But how to deal with redshirts or any athlete that maybe on scholarship or had preferred admission participating on this team and counted outside the 18 rostered spots? |
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Post by MVBFAN on Jul 24, 2024 19:09:19 GMT -5
I like 21 as a better #
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Post by thebump97 on Jul 24, 2024 21:26:29 GMT -5
Could this result in some programs getting entirely cut?
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Post by servenpass311 on Jul 24, 2024 21:46:35 GMT -5
Could this result in some programs getting entirely cut? Absolutely. Most likely the result. If other sports are adding scholarships, they have to come from somewhere. |
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Post by cosmo on Jul 24, 2024 22:13:55 GMT -5
Feels like this has to be a net negative, especially discouraging long-term prospects.
Just from a Hawaii fan perspective (and I'm sure other schools have similar players), Colton Cowell and Alaka'i Todd come to mind as players who were benched for a long time as younger players, and would have been cut earlier on with a stricter roster limit.
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