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Post by hwnstunner on Oct 13, 2006 2:08:30 GMT -5
Oh btw, and as far as next year, the Wahine WILL have depth but come on now, as we have seen last year and THIS year especially, depth can be a negative thing. The Wahine coaching staff needs to be less indecisive with their lineup. I know its hard to determine anything from practice and scrimmages, but the Wahine CAN'T be testing waters and getting new lineups all throughout preseason, ESPCECIALLY if they are gonna play a schedule likes this year's. A Top 10 team will tear apart the lack of chemistry and cohesiveness.
Just like this year.
Arnott, Hittle, Houston, Keefe, Kaufman ... Gregory, Sanders, Thomas, Blood
and then there's the possibility of Otineru and Simmons. That's a ttoal of 11 players to evaluate for 5 hitting spots!
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Post by ACE on Oct 13, 2006 2:18:15 GMT -5
Oh btw, and as far as next year, the Wahine WILL have depth but come on now, as we have seen last year and THIS year especially, depth can be a negative thing. The Wahine coaching staff needs to be less indecisive with their lineup. I know its hard to determine anything from practice and scrimmages, but the Wahine CAN'T be testing waters and getting new lineups all throughout preseason, ESPCECIALLY if they are gonna play a schedule likes this year's. A Top 10 team will tear apart the lack of chemistry and cohesiveness. Just like this year. Arnott, Hittle, Houston, Keefe, Kaufman ... Gregory, Sanders, Thomas, Blood and then there's the possibility of Otineru and Simmons. That's a ttoal of 11 players to evaluate for 5 hitting spots! It also places a lot of pressure on the players to perform. It's like perform or get yanked. I've watched teams (great teams) where their top player is stuggling, but that person was still in just to keep the same chemistry going and it worked pretty good. If Shoji looks at successful teams of the past...the line-up was pretty much set from day one (2002-2004, 1995-1996 just to name a few seasons). In 2004, Hawaii didn't have much depth and what they had is what was given...and that team turned out pretty darn good.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 13, 2006 3:21:29 GMT -5
Just like this year. Arnott, Hittle, Houston, Keefe, Kaufman ... Gregory, Sanders, Thomas, Blood and then there's the possibility of Otineru and Simmons. That's a ttoal of 11 players to evaluate for 5 hitting spots! You forgot Klineman.
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Post by roy on Oct 13, 2006 4:57:36 GMT -5
I'm going to disagree with you. Will it kill our confidence us if we lose? No. This is a number 11 ranked team for crying out loud. We've come a long way in the last year or so. I think we're going to challenge Hawaii in every aspect - as long as the team keeps their head on straight and not let the 'bows get to them - and they'll challenge us in every aspect. Should we lose, it'll be a downer of course but the season isn't over. One game at a time. Pete basically understood what I was saying in terms of this being a "confidence killer." A loss to Hawaii doesn't diminish what NMSU has accomplished this year. They look to be a pretty solid team who will likely make it to the NCAA tournament. However, I am talking about it being a confidence killer for the future. In all the years in the WAC, this is one of the few years Hawaii is actually vulnerable. Many coaches and teams have developed the "fighting for second" mentality because Hawaii is so dominant. It comes from the fact that if a team can't beat Hawaii when Hawaii has a down year and they have an "up" year, how do they beat Hawaii when Hawaii has a solid team. Hawaii lost only 3 games in 2002 and returned almost everyone into the 2003 season including their AA outside hitter combo of Willoughby and Kahumoku. Entering into 2003, you could tell some teams just went through the motions of playing Hawaii and didn't really believe they could beat the Wahine as they couldn't even come close to beating them the year before. One thing I love about NMSU is that they actually believe they can beat Hawaii. You could see it in the players last year that they felt like they could compete with Hawaii. However, they will lost 2 starting outside hitters and their setter next year. Hawaii will lose one starting outside hitter and their AA setter but will return 3 outside hitters (Hittle and Keefe from injury and Arnott from her redshirt year) and 1 middle (Thomas from injury) as well as bringing in another potent outside hitter. If NMSU loses, I can see them slowly moving into the WAC trap of fighting for second place. This is a "Hawaii elitist menatility" however if you go to the match, keep your eyes on Houston and remember that NMSU will have to keep facing her until the 2009 season. I would love to get an assessment from you after the match.
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Post by aaronic on Oct 13, 2006 5:04:23 GMT -5
if you go to the match, keep your eyes on Houston and remember that NMSU will have to keep facing her until the 2009 season. I would love to get an assessment from you after the match. Actually, unless Houston redshirts, she'll only be eligible until 2008.
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Post by roy on Oct 13, 2006 5:13:50 GMT -5
Actually, unless Houston redshirts, she'll only be eligible until 2008. Well, in 2009 she'll be gone. They have to worry about her during the entire 2008 season, so they can stop worrying about her in 2009. In any case, after this season, she'll still be around for another 2 years.
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Post by italianmattd on Oct 13, 2006 11:39:25 GMT -5
I have a feeling NMSU will take advantage of this unfortunate loss and win tomorrow night. Even I have to pipe in on this one. Volleyball is a game of emotion as well as skill. I truly believe the Wahine have a lot of emotion going into this match. They are still a very talented team. They WANT this victory. Will it be easy? No. But they CAN and WILL rise to the occasion. You know, the "Win one for the Gipper/Keefe" strategy. And New Mexico doesn't WANT this either? Think about it, they're ready for Hawaii. They took Hawaii to 5 games last year and lost. They're hungry to win. The only difference now - No Prince, Boogard, or Watanabe. They got Simpson, Oguh, and Borden. They're WANTING this too especially on their home court and they don't that many injuries as Hawaii.
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Post by aaronic on Oct 13, 2006 14:09:15 GMT -5
Even I have to pipe in on this one. Volleyball is a game of emotion as well as skill. I truly believe the Wahine have a lot of emotion going into this match. They are still a very talented team. They WANT this victory. Will it be easy? No. But they CAN and WILL rise to the occasion. You know, the "Win one for the Gipper/Keefe" strategy. And New Mexico doesn't WANT this either? Think about it, they're ready for Hawaii. They took Hawaii to 5 games last year and lost. They're hungry to win. The only difference now - No Prince, Boogard, or Watanabe. They got Simpson, Oguh, and Borden. They're WANTING this too especially on their home court and they don't that many injuries as Hawaii. Why don't you just move to Las Cruces, New Mexico already Tonto?!!
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 13, 2006 14:10:15 GMT -5
And New Mexico doesn't WANT this either? Think about it, they're ready for Hawaii. They took Hawaii to 5 games last year and lost. They're hungry to win. The only difference now - No Prince, Boogard, or Watanabe. They got Simpson, Oguh, and Borden. They're WANTING this too especially on their home court and they don't that many injuries as Hawaii. Why don't you just move to Las Cruces, New Mexico already Tonto? If that was in a Mr. T voice, I'm laughing. Otherwise... I feel like it's the pot calling the kettle cast iron.
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Post by luke96792 on Oct 13, 2006 17:44:40 GMT -5
Wow.....this Hawai'i team is becoming more and more injury plagued as this year goes on. I just hope that they can keep this up and fight to the very end......because these girls and especially AA Kaman'o deserves a decent if not special year. The numerous injuries almost brings me back to 1992 when Hawaii was just as injury plagued and that was also the last time Hawaii had a losing season I believe. But I truly feel that Hawai'i can and will come back and overcome these obstacles. As Hawaii fans....we will stand by them and be rooting them on 100%.
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Post by Keystonekid on Oct 14, 2006 6:44:23 GMT -5
I think "forget" Klineman may be more appropriate.
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Post by StuffU on Oct 14, 2006 9:58:10 GMT -5
Wow.....this Hawai'i team is becoming more and more injury plagued as this year goes on. I just hope that they can keep this up and fight to the very end......because these girls and especially AA Kaman'o deserves a decent if not special year. The numerous injuries almost brings me back to 1992 when Hawaii was just as injury plagued and that was also the last time Hawaii had a losing season I believe. But I truly feel that Hawai'i can and will come back and overcome these obstacles. As Hawaii fans....we will stand by them and be rooting them on 100%. I don't believe the 92 team had a losing season. However, they didn't make the post season ... and it was a smaller field in the post season in 92. The same 92 team would've made the post season had the field been as large as it is today.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 14, 2006 14:49:56 GMT -5
I think "forget" Klineman may be more appropriate. Yeah for PSU and Nebraska. Were they ever on her list of choices?
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