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Post by pineapple on Oct 17, 2007 13:41:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry to report that Tom Osborn's return as AD is not going to improve things. This is the universal law: a geographically large State but sparsely populated (Nebraska has only 1.8 million people) can be tops in only one college sport at a time. Nebraska's womens VB program relatively recent surge to the top caused the perennially top FB team to sink to the bottom. Hurry Nebraska fans, call for the outster of Cook, stop the womens VB team from establishing a championsip tradition! In this mornings Honolulu Str-Bulletin there's a big article on Tom Osborn's hiring as the interim AD with a picture of him giving a speech. I've always liked that man, so cool and collected. After serving 3 terms in congress, you'd think he would be a good candidate for President of USA. I don't know why he aimed for lowly Governor. Well, I hope he brings the FB Huskers back to the top where they belong (and sink the Womens VB ). I have always been a big fan of the FB Huskers, ever since that game against Hawaii I attended in the late 60's in the old Honolulu Stadium. They got beat something like 100 to 12, or something like that. Maybe it was the other way round. ;D
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Post by Keystonekid on Oct 17, 2007 14:04:21 GMT -5
"relatively recent surge". Does relevantly recent mean the last 20 years?
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Post by pineapple on Oct 17, 2007 14:36:25 GMT -5
I said "relatively surge to the top", also "championship tradition." Nebraska has not established one yet, but based on this year and last is putting out a reign of terror (hopefully, the fire will peter out next year with Houghtelling and Pavan gone). Most of the 20 years the team has been lurking at the top but hardly winning the title. For sure, it has won the title 4 times, but that occured in relevently recent times, compared to Stanford and UCLA and Big West schools Hawaii, LBSU, Pacific in the earlier years. Is it clear now, kid?
I give credit to where it's due. So I'm not giving credit to "the universal law." I just hope the FB team start kicking asses again. My mentioning volleyball is immaterial.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 17, 2007 14:48:20 GMT -5
... If you beat your girlfriend, possess a weapon illegally, sell drugs, steal a car, your gone. No exceptions. Or, in 38Skynyrd's case, if he beats his boyfriend...
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Post by Keystonekid on Oct 17, 2007 14:58:06 GMT -5
Actually it isn't clear now, mostly due to the fact that it is void of accuracy and common sense. It may be the dumbest post ever. "Not established a championship tradition" ? They have won three titles (not four as you posted), only Stanford has won more, are the winningest team in the country since 2000, have been ranked #1 in the AVCA coaches poll longer than any team, second most wins in NCAA tournament history. You list UCLA, Hawaii, LBSU, and Pacific of which none have a better record, more titles, ranked higher etc... If Nebraska doesn't, than they don't either by anyones logic. Does anyone think, or research, or use reason when making assertions?
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Post by Jayme Lee fan on Oct 17, 2007 17:59:18 GMT -5
.................if you aren't going to recruit these kids you better change your expectation level, after all when is the last time Stanford, harvard, yale, duke, etc, won a national title When was the last time a womens volleyball player got into a fist fight or was arrested for selling drugs or having a gun in the dorms? A few years ago(5 or so), Lily Kahumoku was booked for beating up her then boyfriend. Of course, this was a few years after she played her last year at UH. Just last year or earlier this year a softball player from a div. II school here was busted for selling drugs. On the other hand, Colt Brennen was busted for a breaking and entering charge at his old school. Hawai'i was about the only D-1 school to take him in after that, and Colt's been behaving himself and winning games since...
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Post by doc on Oct 17, 2007 19:39:10 GMT -5
let jut hope whoever comes in and takes over doesn't concentrate so much on turning around the Football program that the other sports get lost and lose out The other programs won't notice any change. The coaches run their programs along with the support of the Assistant AD's. If you are a Nebraska fan you better hope the new AD puts all his energy into the football program. If he doesn't and it doesn't get fixed budget's will be cut in the other sports because the money won't be coming in. Osborne for Interim AD was a great choice. If you want a good book pick one of his up.
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Post by doc on Oct 17, 2007 19:48:44 GMT -5
I'm guessing this is a reference to Lawrence Phillips, the WR Muhommad?, Terrell Farley, etc Bingo. Wasn't this part of the reason why Osborn left? This had NOTHING to do with Osborne leaving. Health and a promise he made to his wife. The man's character and what he believes in is amazing. Pederson was making over $400k a year as AD. The Chancellor makes around 250K. When Osborne was offered the job he told the Chancellor it was wrong for the AD to make more than him.
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Post by pineapple on Oct 17, 2007 21:26:24 GMT -5
Actually it isn't clear now, mostly due to the fact that it is void of accuracy and common sense. It may be the dumbest post ever. "Not established a championship tradition" ? They have won three titles (not four as you posted), only Stanford has won more, are the winningest team in the country since 2000, have been ranked #1 in the AVCA coaches poll longer than any team, second most wins in NCAA tournament history. You list UCLA, Hawaii, LBSU, and Pacific of which none have a better record, more titles, ranked higher etc... If Nebraska doesn't, than they don't either by anyones logic. Does anyone think, or research, or use reason when making assertions? Is yours an anal-type personality or what? Hawaii has three 4 national titles under its belt, including 3 NCCA titles. If Nebraska has only 3 as you say, then Hawaii has more. Also, why don't you read the records on UCLA titles since the inception of womens college volleyball. UCLA has a better record than Hawaii. Only last year did Nebraska take over Hawaii in overall accomplishments based on analysis of final four appearances, titles won, etc. The records can be reassessed for rebuttal if you care to do so. Nebraska's last two NCCA titles occured in recent times. Because you're denying Hawaii, I must say that I believe Hawaii has a winning record over all PAC 10 teams and I believe over all Big 12 teams too.
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Post by Keystonekid on Oct 17, 2007 22:43:11 GMT -5
I must be off my rocker for responding to a post that starts with "Is yours an anal-type personality or what?" Not sure what my personality or anus has to do with anything. I am assuming your definition of anal, is a person grounded in actual facts. Who is denying Hawaii? They are an amazing program and deserve their rightful spot as a championship program. Your contention is that Nebraska doesn't, and that is idiotic regardless of the criteria. Your holding the fact that their titles are recent against them is also idiotic. I appreciate your putting so much emphasis on the A.I.A.W. Root Beer titles in the70's. Those UCLA teams were dominating back than as well, you failed to mentioned they were also winning badmitton titles My definition of a championship program is that they have won championships, and compete for championships on a consistent basis. Yours is if it happened in the 80's and on an island.
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Post by pineapple on Oct 17, 2007 23:02:58 GMT -5
I am not cutting down Nebraska at all, as you seem to think. Its last two NCAA titles came in relatively recent times. There was no need to rebut by belittling Hawaii's titles and those great west coast teams of the past. @$$%*!*! a-hole
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Post by holidayhusker on Oct 17, 2007 23:11:31 GMT -5
Pinapple..you are so classless its just sad. Grow up.
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Post by gobigred on Oct 17, 2007 23:13:17 GMT -5
I'm sorry to report that Tom Osborn's return as AD is not going to improve things. This is the universal law: a geographically large State but sparsely populated (Nebraska has only 1.8 million people) can be tops in only one college sport at a time. Nebraska's womens VB program relatively recent surge to the top caused the perennially top FB team to sink to the bottom. Hurry Nebraska fans, call for the outster of Cook, stop the womens VB team from establishing a championsip tradition! I'm not gonna get into this dumb argument. But I did want to point out that Nebraska won the national championship in both football AND volleyball in 1995.
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Post by pineapple on Oct 17, 2007 23:38:08 GMT -5
Pinapple..you are so classless its just sad. Grow up. I have many leisure time activities here in beautiful Hawaii. I guess it's not the same there. I don't blame you for coming out and sounding pathetic like keystonekid. There's not much to do there. If you start counting titles only from the outset of NCAA, then Nebraska is still relative new to being top of the heap. UCLA and Hawaii have been there there long ago. I've read some of the posts that say Hawaii is a "has been." I would find this difficult to counter. Maybe the same could be said for the west coast teams except for Stanford and perhaps Washington. Even if so, you have to acknowledge Hawaii, LBSU, Pacific, UCLA and USC monopolized the top back in the in the histoyry of NCCA womens volleyball. Nebraska is now in vogue. It is the powerhouse.( And you call me classless, Cornhusker?) By the way, Keystonekid, wasn't Nebraska around during those "badmitton" years? How come they didn't win a title then? Couldn't even play badmitton well? The answer is, and I am repeating myself, they surge to the top in relatively recent times? Is this hard to grap? Or are you too proud to admit that Nebraska was mediocre at times? Holiday Husker, you drink too much corn whiskey.
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Post by pineapple on Oct 18, 2007 2:02:24 GMT -5
I'm sorry to report that Tom Osborn's return as AD is not going to improve things. This is the universal law: a geographically large State but sparsely populated (Nebraska has only 1.8 million people) can be tops in only one college sport at a time. Nebraska's womens VB program relatively recent surge to the top caused the perennially top FB team to sink to the bottom. Hurry Nebraska fans, call for the outster of Cook, stop the womens VB team from establishing a championsip tradition! I'm not gonna get into this dumb argument. But I did want to point out that Nebraska won the national championship in both football AND volleyball in 1995. Of course! If you read my original post it was written with brevity and humor. If you read it for the third time. you will see my support for nebraska FT team. I respect your brief statement because it is correct. yes, the argument was dumb. But I wasn't the one who started it. My post was complimentary and playful. Apparently, keystonekid and Husker take things too seriously and failed to detect the satire. They should have at least volleyed a witty line back at me.
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