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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 18, 2007 0:38:02 GMT -5
I don't feel like I've backpedaled at all. Let me refresh your memory, then. "Fact of the matter is that both Hawai'i and Florida have had more success in the NCAA tourney than ALL OF THE BIG 10 TEAMS COMBINED."Now, you want to compare Hawaii against any ONE team in the Big Ten. Nope, I'm comparing Hawai'i to the entire "Big girls" Conference. No Big 10 program can compare to Hawai'i by itself. Are you saying that Hawaii, when it gets to lean on the success of Florida, can beat the Big Ten as a pair? That's not what you said above. For that matter, has Florida been to six regional finals in the last seven years? That's what it'd take for Florida and her little sister Hawaii to equal the BigTen, which is what you're (now) appearing to claim. Or are you going to peddle back some more now? Funny that you're sole argument is based on regional final appearances. Why would I feel a need to back pedal when you are proving my point? Let's see, 10 regional finals appearances for the Big 10 and only 3 Final Four appearances. Hawai'i on its own has 3 during the same time. Florida has 3 during this time as well. Seems like the "Big Girls Conference" is no better than the WAC and SEC. In fact both Hawai'i and Florida, the stalwarts of the WAC and SEC have had more success in the tourney than the entire Big 10 combined. Did I mention the Big 10 has only won 1 National title?
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 18, 2007 0:57:02 GMT -5
Getting back to the origianal topic of the post, I hope the Badgers will draw a big crowd on sunday (and on friday versus the Buckeyes for that matter). The Packers are off this weekend, so that should help.
That said, the Badgers are going to need all the help they can get against the Lions. I think this is the most talented team PSU has had since they won the national championship in 1999. They are scary athletic, so it remains to be seen how the Badgers do against a bigger and more athletic group (against Texas last year, not so well....against PSU, better). Obviously, they have to serve tough and get Harmotto and Wilson out of the offense. I think Harmotto is clearly the player in the conference I would least like having take a swing against my team with the Lions up 14-13 in the fifth. The problem is that Hodge and Fawcett might be two and three on that list, but at least you might be able to slow them down if you can camp on them.
On the good side, the Badgers weren't as good as PSU last year and swept them in Madison. Of course, I am sure that PSU remembers that and doesn't want a repeat. I think the reason the Badgers have a chance, in addition to the home court advantage, is that Simpson has been playing really well and gives the Badgers a favorable matchup over Glass, who is still learning the position. I also think Dykstra has to play well to lessen the difference is athleticism between the two teams. It would also help a lot if AWack/DuPont can put the ball away, but I am worried about that. Caity played well in limited time at PSU last year, so that is encouraging. Still, while I don't love to play the underdog card like many people in Wisconsin seem to do, I have to think the Lions will be the favorite to win on sunday. I don't think the Badgers have played their best match yet, so I hope it comes on sunday. I also hope they are ready for the Buckeyes, who I don't see rolling over.
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Post by bomber on Oct 18, 2007 6:56:11 GMT -5
Look needlebrain, one of the problems I have with you Hawaii fans is that you are so obsessed with Hawaii, you have no idea about another squad or what they're about. So Hawaii started Brandt, a new setter? Well that could be an excuse for losing to Michigan, I suppose...................except, that Michigan started Lexi Zimmerman, a brand new frosh setter of their own, who had been practicing with the Michigan squad less than a month. Doof! The other problem I have with you in particular is that your use of improper syntax, frequent grammatical and punctuation errors and overall poor and childish sentence structure makes your postings very difficult to read. You aren't by any chance a high school teenage girl, are you? Oooohhhh!...did I offend you Bomber?....Good!.....At least I got your attention. My problem with you is that I think your a BIG IDIOT!.......more like a geeky type of idiot....LOL! Laugh now cause it's funny....!....hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahha I knew it........you are a teenaged girl after all. That explains volumes. Have fun at the school dance this weekend........
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Post by BOTE on Oct 18, 2007 8:51:38 GMT -5
Let's get on with it. Hawaii is irrelevant this year and has been for the past several years. As far as the PSU/Wisconsin match on Sunday. Position vs position the Badgers just don't match up to the Lions this year regardless of the crowd. Lions in 4.
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Post by bomber on Oct 18, 2007 9:29:04 GMT -5
Let's get on with it. Hawaii is irrelevant this year and has been for the past several years. As far as the PSU/Wisconsin match on Sunday. Position vs position the Badgers just don't match up to the Lions this year regardless of the crowd. Lions in 4. The same conditions were in existence last year as well...that's why they play these matches. Badgers in four.......
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Post by bomber on Oct 18, 2007 9:30:21 GMT -5
Let's get on with it. Hawaii is irrelevant this year and has been for the past several years. As far as the PSU/Wisconsin match on Sunday. Position vs position the Badgers just don't match up to the Lions this year regardless of the crowd. Lions in 4. The same conditions were in existence last year as well, and Badgers swept the Lions. To quote Russ Rose who was interviewed after that match, "we got our butts kicked, it happens once in a while"(yes, he did say that)...that's why they play these matches. Badgers in four.......
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 18, 2007 11:11:17 GMT -5
Let's get on with it. Hawaii is irrelevant this year and has been for the past several years. As far as the PSU/Wisconsin match on Sunday. Position vs position the Badgers just don't match up to the Lions this year regardless of the crowd. Lions in 4. The same conditions were in existence last year as well...that's why they play these matches. Badgers in four....... Care to make a wager on this prediction?
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Post by wiscvball on Oct 18, 2007 11:28:45 GMT -5
Position vs position the Badgers just don't match up to the Lions this year regardless of the crowd. Lions in 4. I'm not sure I agree with this. I'd take Simpson and Wack over Glass and Holehouse any day of the week. PSU has the advantage at all of the hitter positions, but if you can't pass well enough to the setter, and if the setter makes bad decisions with the ball then it doesn't matter how high your hitters can jump or how hard they can hit. Wisconsin's hitters are good enough to put the ball down against the PSU block and defense if the passing and setting is good. That's all they have to be, good enough. That's exactly what happened last year in Madison, Wack was amazing, Simpson was spectacular and Penn State couldn't pass to save their lives. The same thing could happen again this year. The match will be decided by what happens on the first and second contacts of the ball, not which team has stronger hitters.
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Post by uninformed on Oct 18, 2007 11:34:58 GMT -5
Big Girls conference doesn't quite fit, unless you are talking about their spandex. [/quote]
bik -- What do you mean by this comment? You made the same comment twice on this thread. Why do you keep saying the "big girls" conference and then refer to their spandex?
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 18, 2007 20:12:15 GMT -5
bik -- What do you mean by this comment? You made the same comment twice on this thread. Why do you keep saying the "big girls" conference and then refer to their spandex? Well let me just say that it's a good thing spandex stretches.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 18, 2007 20:14:45 GMT -5
Bomber, are you going to propose a bet or are you going to walk away with your tail between your legs?
I have faith in the Wahine, do you have faith in the Badgers?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2007 20:19:09 GMT -5
So, you're willing to "bet" on the Wahine v. Nebraska? Because Wisconsin has a better chance against PSU than Hawaii has against the Huskers.
Perhaps a bet as to which of the two teams -- Wisconsin or Hawaii -- scores more points? A dozen roses to the winner.
And, BinKy, you really ought to apologize for that spandex comment. Even you aren't that big of a creep.
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Post by bomber on Oct 18, 2007 23:02:36 GMT -5
So, you're willing to "bet" on the Wahine v. Nebraska? Because Wisconsin has a better chance against PSU than Hawaii has against the Huskers. Perhaps a bet as to which of the two teams -- Wisconsin or Hawaii -- scores more points? A dozen roses to the winner. And, BinKy, you really ought to apologize for that spandex comment. Even you aren't that big of a creep. Actually, I like your idea Ruffy. I've been thinking of a bet that would have some resemblance of fairness in it for Bik, because I simply cannot envision a scenario whereby Hawaii could win their match against the Huskers, short of divine intervention (or Satanic). There you go, Bikky, I'll wager that my Badgers score more points against PSU than your Wahine score against the Huskers. But not for roses. The loser will have to post on this board, on each day they choose to enter any posting till Thanksgiving, the initial statement "I was wrong, and (blank) was so right", with blank being the name of the wager winner. After entering the above, the loser (in this case you) are free to post for that day. Any transgression to above will forever condemn the transgressor as a bet whelcher, and as such, an individual whose future statements should be given no credence whatsoever. Do you accept.....?
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 18, 2007 23:12:05 GMT -5
So, you're willing to "bet" on the Wahine v. Nebraska? Because Wisconsin has a better chance against PSU than Hawaii has against the Huskers. Perhaps a bet as to which of the two teams -- Wisconsin or Hawaii -- scores more points? A dozen roses to the winner. And, BinKy, you really ought to apologize for that spandex comment. Even you aren't that big of a creep. Actually, I like your idea Ruffy. I've been thinking of a bet that would have some resemblance of fairness in it for Bik, because I simply cannot envision a scenario whereby Hawaii could win their match against the Huskers, short of divine intervention (or Satanic). There you go, Bikky, I'll wager that my Badgers score more points against PSU than your Wahine score against the Huskers. But not for roses. The loser will have to post on this board, on each day they choose to enter any posting till Thanksgiving, the initial statement "I was wrong, and (blank) was so right", with blank being the name of the wager winner. After entering the above, the loser (in this case you) are free to post for that day. Any transgression to above will forever condemn the transgressor as a bet whelcher, and as such, an individual whose future statements should be given no credence whatsoever. Do you accept.....? No, I'll accept your points bet but loser must delete their VT account and not post on VT ever again. Deal?
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Post by bomber on Oct 18, 2007 23:34:25 GMT -5
Actually, I like your idea Ruffy. I've been thinking of a bet that would have some resemblance of fairness in it for Bik, because I simply cannot envision a scenario whereby Hawaii could win their match against the Huskers, short of divine intervention (or Satanic). There you go, Bikky, I'll wager that my Badgers score more points against PSU than your Wahine score against the Huskers. But not for roses. The loser will have to post on this board, on each day they choose to enter any posting till Thanksgiving, the initial statement "I was wrong, and (blank) was so right", with blank being the name of the wager winner. After entering the above, the loser (in this case you) are free to post for that day. Any transgression to above will forever condemn the transgressor as a bet whelcher, and as such, an individual whose future statements should be given no credence whatsoever. Do you accept.....? No, I'll accept your points bet but loser must delete their VT account and not post on VT ever again. Deal? No....I remember last year you came up with some lame announcement that the Bik everyone knew no longer would exist, and I believe this is just a ruse to try and kill off your Bik personna again. And you'll post on some alias somewhere down the road.... To gather one's "nome de plume" and head off into the sunset is no way to settle a bet.
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