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Post by clubvb17 on Apr 5, 2010 9:59:12 GMT -5
again, a stupid comment. UV beat you guys cause they played phenom, no doubt cause I and the rest of the people standing around the court saw. But while you were too busy whining off somewehre else UV bounced mizzou who is a solid team and played well all weekend, then played OSU and played just as well as they did in the morning just had a string of mistakes at the end of the 3rd accompanied by a couple of great blocks in a row by Luhrson that did them in. And honestly, do you think before you post? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say no because of the just plain crap you add to discussion. Your profs must be annoyed with you. With that said, Everyone that was top level this year and in past years is likley to stay there unless U of I has deeke come back so he can blow it...again, though we all love watching his dad be more into games then the team. Also some teams have some massive holes to fill...Lakeland, Oshkosh, but they are good teams and youngsters will mature and step up and a whole new crop of talent will roll in next year, for example the U of I frosh OH who played really well this year. It will definately be interesting with some old faces hanging up the sneakers but I don't anticipate a massive power switch to different teams. With ages of players that I know of and seeing teams play, my prediction is that the gold bracket teams of this year will in all probability make up most of the gold teams next year. I agree with most of what you said, but seriously, if you watched the Illinois-JMU game, you would know that Deeke did not blow it at all. Of their 13 points in the third game, he easily had 7 on kills. He probably was 7/9 in that game with no errors. he made his jumpserves too. There was a point when the score was close, and Deeke was right side. The setter set outside and he got blocked. Then he set middle and he got blocked. Then he finally set Deeke and Deeke got the kill. Why didn't Deeke get the first ball? That's unneeded points for the other team.
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Post by 5ftbouncer on Apr 5, 2010 10:13:11 GMT -5
From what I heard, Deeke missed a jump serve in the third game when the score was 12-13 with the advantage to JMU? I don't consider that blowing the game because you have to go for it, but don't say he made his jump serves as if to say he didn't miss.
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Post by clubvb17 on Apr 5, 2010 11:13:40 GMT -5
Wow, who did you hear that from? That's completely false. It was Karl Miller who missed his jump serve at 12-13. Illinois had gone on a short run and JMU called timeout. Miller missed his serve right out of the timeout. Deeke then hammered a kill to make it 13-14, but JMU fed the middle who had been dominating all match and he delivered for the win.
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Post by bredsox61 on Apr 5, 2010 11:40:42 GMT -5
Agreed with houseparty and slamjam, dont start talking just because you got a 1 ranking at some point this year but what did you do with it when it counted....nada...Lakeland did play a very disappointing match and they are well aware of that, also noticed that Ohio State looked way more relaxed, calm, and looked like they were having fun on the court while LC looked like they were just trying to hang in the game and playing not to lose which will not win you a championship. Blocking was poor as was serve receive by LC, their All-American setter turned and burned on that one ball late in the 2nd game and I thought that was the jump start they needed to get back into form of how they played the rest of the tourney. Also just to note, the announcers were aw-full, not only did they not bother getting any names phonetically spelled, but they were struggling on the color commentary. The video feed was GREATLY appreciated from those who could not make it but lets work on getting some announcers in their who put in a lil more effort next time. Congrats to Ohio State, I do not know the answer to this question so ill put it out there....Ohio State is the first Big Ten team to win a National Championship since _____? ...EVER!!! Funny that most would assume that Illinois, or Mich St (back in the day) would have been the first one to break thru. Until Ilinois two years ago, no Big Ten team had ever played in a Final. BTW...I watched yesterdays match on Web. I've watched roughly 15 NC games previously (going back as far as 1990), and while I have seen some less than great teams make a final, I can honestly say that the only other NC final that was as bad as yesterday was perhaps Maryland beating Florida in 96. And that Maryland team woulda throttled the OSU team I saw yesterday. I was thinking if some VB fans were watching via web for the first time, they must have come away with a bad view of the level of club VB. Too bad! Was the Arena far from the other games? It seemed liked a smaller crowd for the Finals too, maybe everyone knew how bad it was gonna be. I think a big issue with Louisville is that the arena was far from the hotels. While it was only a ~5 minute walk from the convention center, the convention center was ~10-15 minutes from the hotels... Compare it to a setup like Kansas City, where you basically stumble out of your hotel and find yourself at the finals. Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many people watched the NIRSA Finals, a few hundred?
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Post by kcvolleyball on Apr 5, 2010 13:07:25 GMT -5
...EVER!!! Funny that most would assume that Illinois, or Mich St (back in the day) would have been the first one to break thru. Until Ilinois two years ago, no Big Ten team had ever played in a Final. BTW...I watched yesterdays match on Web. I've watched roughly 15 NC games previously (going back as far as 1990), and while I have seen some less than great teams make a final, I can honestly say that the only other NC final that was as bad as yesterday was perhaps Maryland beating Florida in 96. And that Maryland team woulda throttled the OSU team I saw yesterday. I was thinking if some VB fans were watching via web for the first time, they must have come away with a bad view of the level of club VB. Too bad! Was the Arena far from the other games? It seemed liked a smaller crowd for the Finals too, maybe everyone knew how bad it was gonna be. I think a big issue with Louisville is that the arena was far from the hotels. While it was only a ~5 minute walk from the convention center, the convention center was ~10-15 minutes from the hotels... Compare it to a setup like Kansas City, where you basically stumble out of your hotel and find yourself at the finals. Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many people watched the NIRSA Finals, a few hundred? This is true, unless you stayed at the tournament hotel, you were a fairly long distance away. The 5min walk from convention center is in addition to the drive time from your hotel or waiting for a taxi/shuttle. KC you were right there, even Dallas has the DART to get back and forth. As for the NIRSA/NCCS finals... I don't even know who was playing in their final...
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Post by 5ftbouncer on Apr 5, 2010 13:21:33 GMT -5
I apologize for what I said, but that is just one of many things I heard about the match. I am sure with the big crowd that collected at the match that someone got the server wrong at that point.
Either way, all teams seemed to have brought it together at some point during the tournament, its just the ones that bring it together at the right time that prevail!
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Post by bounce04 on Apr 5, 2010 14:14:50 GMT -5
Can someone make the argument against Wisconsin having the best volleyball programs in the last ten years?
Looking back all the way to 2003... 2003-lakeland won d-II, oshkosh took 5th d-1 2004-marquette/oshkosh 5th 2005 Marquette national champs, oshkosh 2nd, lakeland 3rd 2006 Oshkosh national champs, marquette 3rd, lakeland 9th 2007 oshkosh national champs, lakeland 2nd 2008 lakeland national champs 2009 oshkosh 2nd, lakeland 3rd, marquette 9th 2010 lakeland 2nd
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2010 14:17:58 GMT -5
...EVER!!! Funny that most would assume that Illinois, or Mich St (back in the day) would have been the first one to break thru. Until Ilinois two years ago, no Big Ten team had ever played in a Final. BTW...I watched yesterdays match on Web. I've watched roughly 15 NC games previously (going back as far as 1990), and while I have seen some less than great teams make a final, I can honestly say that the only other NC final that was as bad as yesterday was perhaps Maryland beating Florida in 96. And that Maryland team woulda throttled the OSU team I saw yesterday. I was thinking if some VB fans were watching via web for the first time, they must have come away with a bad view of the level of club VB. Too bad! Was the Arena far from the other games? It seemed liked a smaller crowd for the Finals too, maybe everyone knew how bad it was gonna be. I think a big issue with Louisville is that the arena was far from the hotels. While it was only a ~5 minute walk from the convention center, the convention center was ~10-15 minutes from the hotels... Compare it to a setup like Kansas City, where you basically stumble out of your hotel and find yourself at the finals. Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many people watched the NIRSA Finals, a few hundred? Well, since there were only like 500 at the NCVF finals...
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Post by kcvolleyball on Apr 5, 2010 14:31:01 GMT -5
Can someone make the argument against Wisconsin having the best volleyball programs in the last ten years? Looking back all the way to 2003... 2003-lakeland won d-II, oshkosh took 5th d-1 2004-marquette/oshkosh 5th 2005 Marquette national champs, oshkosh 2nd, lakeland 3rd 2006 Oshkosh national champs, marquette 3rd, lakeland 9th 2007 oshkosh national champs, lakeland 2nd 2008 lakeland national champs 2009 oshkosh 2nd, lakeland 3rd, marquette 9th 2010 lakeland 2nd There's a few years missing to say that about the last 10 years. More like one of the best in the last 6 years.
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Post by vball24 on Apr 5, 2010 14:48:43 GMT -5
what about when osh-kosh beat maryland in the finals a few years back? I wasn't really a bad final but maryland had no chance to win. Ill-osh-kosh had also met in the semi's that year, insane match.
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Post by sideoutserver on Apr 5, 2010 14:50:16 GMT -5
well i see 8 years there, and the WVC as clearly shown dominance in the last decade, lets not forget about Whitewater, sometimes they are shadowed behind Lakeland and UWO, the announcers were wrong during the national champ, lakeland did in fact drop a game in the tourney before the NC, and they did not play penn state, they played whitewater who beat them in game 2, lakeland then had to battle to win 17-15 in game 3 before playing JMU
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Post by chiwoj85 on Apr 5, 2010 15:09:10 GMT -5
well i see 8 years there, and the WVC as clearly shown dominance in the last decade, lets not forget about Whitewater, sometimes they are shadowed behind Lakeland and UWO, the announcers were wrong during the national champ, lakeland did in fact drop a game in the tourney before the NC, and they did not play penn state, they played whitewater who beat them in game 2, lakeland then had to battle to win 17-15 in game 3 before playing JMU I really wouldn't listen to anything those announcers had to say. During the women's final, they said that after the two teams won their pools on Thursday, they didn't have to play on Friday and played again on Saturday. So according to him, they got byes into the Gold bracket...
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Post by flyingace on Apr 5, 2010 15:41:40 GMT -5
well i see 8 years there, and the WVC as clearly shown dominance in the last decade, lets not forget about Whitewater, sometimes they are shadowed behind Lakeland and UWO, the announcers were wrong during the national champ, lakeland did in fact drop a game in the tourney before the NC, and they did not play penn state, they played whitewater who beat them in game 2, lakeland then had to battle to win 17-15 in game 3 before playing JMU Whitewater won the first game 25-19 lost the second 16-25 and had a ... i think 12-9 lead before they lost the third game 15-17. They are overshadowed by there WVC competitors but that's life. regardless they still are tied for 5th and did a very good job in the tournament along with a lot of other teams that are hardly mentioned in the blog
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Post by muoh61010 on Apr 5, 2010 20:11:38 GMT -5
I was in Dallas for NIRSA, and it was probably the most disappointing nationals I have ever been to. When you walked into the convention center, you could see every single court...and that's not an exaggeration. If I had to guess, just under 200 people were there for the final.
Men's final was Texas A&M vs. Florida, with TAMU winning in three. TAMU def. Colorado in semi #1 and Florida def. UCLA in semi #2
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Post by sideoutserver on Apr 5, 2010 23:07:30 GMT -5
that. sounds. AWESOME! haha way to go NIRSA, btw does anyone have the complete list of 1st 2nd and HM All-Americans from the real tourney?
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