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Post by andrewwmic on Oct 4, 2014 14:57:56 GMT -5
John Cook is such a douche bag... Cool. Who are you?
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Post by jets on Oct 4, 2014 15:19:50 GMT -5
First, I'm not sure I understand why so many are so shocked at Nebraska's performance. They certainly have had their unimpressive moments this year beyond the whole Stanford match. But there were glimpses of this level of play against #2/3 Texas. Their other loss against #5 Florida State was a disappointing showing, particularly for certain players, but UNL did win more rallies on the night than FSU. Not to mention FSU has answered a lot of pre-seaon unknowns with their performances this year - proving to be much stronger than most anticipated.
I also didn't expect or pick huskers to win last night. But 2008 match memories will always remind me of what can happen in these PSU vs UNL matches, regardless of the final outcome.
Second, 10 errors with 5 aces or 7 errors and 1 ace??? As someone pointed out regarding the timing at the end of set 4, serving did not do PSU in. Both setters were moving a lot on serve receive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 18:38:56 GMT -5
Anyone who watched this match saw that Nebraska had to play out of their minds to win. It helped that Penn State was hitting right at the Husker defenders for a good part of the night, but they were still hitting it HARD and Nebraska was still digging right to Pohlmiller. They also made a lot of spectacular digs and won a lot of rallies. I personally think PSU didn't serve tough enough. THAT probably had something to do with the errors -- how hard it was to get Nebraska out of system. But the upshot is still this: Teams are going to have to play great to beat PSU, maybe even better than they knew they could play. That's a tough task. Is it perhaps possible that as opposed to NE playing "out of their minds", they simply played closer to their true potential? Time will tell. Yes. Possible. But, realistically, PSU has more talent than Nebraska does. I think it takes away from what they just did, a little, to not appreciate the level of defense they played. Can they do that all the time?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 18:43:10 GMT -5
Pollimer should be player of match. She played well, and that is the key for the huskers. IF she plays like that they could win the whole thing...but that is a very big IF.
I thought that was the poorest match ive seen Hancock play this year. She wasn't bad, but she didn't dominate like she has so much this year.
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Post by sportsfun on Oct 4, 2014 19:03:20 GMT -5
I thank you but I have to confess that on another thread I quoted my somewhat elderly relative who moved from California to Lincoln a few years ago and he is a bit afraid of what he describes as a nearly religious, fanatical fan base, although he was referring to football. Considering he's a huge sports fan, him being taken aback by it had some credibility. He recently visited me and I recorded a Huskers VB game to show him how awesome it was. I'm trying to get him to go to one of the games because I think he would love it but to quote him, "it's either endless cornfields, the Olive Garden, or the Huskers." I used the quote on another thread in response to the poster who disparaged Stanford but I genuinely find the fans in the stands at Nebraska to be the best part of watching the game on TV. I do hope he will become unafraid and get in on the action but it's an adjustment from California where people aren't nearly as passionate. According to him, Huskers football is the beginning conversation with anyone you meet for the first time. I told him to forget football, I'll tutor him on my limited knowledge of volleyball and live vicariously through him while he attends the games. He's not sold on the idea.....yet. Apparently it's quite a culture shock. If I ever make it down that way, I'll message you and buy you a popcorn in appreciation of your very kind post because you may rescind your offer after reading my post on the Stanford thread. Popcorn is still my treat. Might even splurge and get you a Runza. BTW... There aren't that many Olive Gardens here. I'm sorry to hear about the fact that there aren't many Olive Gardens because if there is one within 30 miles, my relative will sniff it out. I even sent him back with a gift certificate. My point was that I am urging him to branch out and I think he would love the sports atmosphere in Lincoln. I think the crowd support is amazing and he would enjoy it if he would just find his way out of the cornfields he seems fascinated with. Thanks for seeing that I meant no harm because 1. I don't dislike any college team, these are kids playing. 2. Watching the atmosphere that only Lincoln and Hawaii creates is some of the most entertaining. You mentioned thanking me for not making conclusions about the fans but I'm not sure what that means The crowd seems to be comprised of students, parents, alumni, and Lincoln residents. The mix of the crowd is one of my favorite parts of watching the crowd. Who doesn't love when several generations find a common interest? As far as culture shock, I was referring to the diehard allegiance to a college team whereas in California, where people are often so transient and the vast majority of us didn't stand a chance at getting into the two big contenders (Stanford and Cal) there isn't the fervor that Lincoln has. Heck, there isn't even a whimper. Where the "out in the wilderness" deduction came from, I have no idea. Assuming the best in people will get you much further in life than the attitude of the other poster. Personally, I can't help but root for Nebraska or Hawaii when watching them on TV because I hate to see so many people go home disappointed. It would be a different story if they played in the Pac-12. I don't know what a Runza is but I hope to find out someday.
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Post by sportsfun on Oct 4, 2014 19:32:10 GMT -5
I enjoyed the game so much that I'm watching parts of it again today on replay and my pressing question is, who is the dude in the red leotard with the red Ronald McDonald wig and does he come to every game. I kind of want to know that guy.
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Post by sportsfun on Oct 4, 2014 19:37:38 GMT -5
I thought Harvard was the prettiest campus in the U.S. To each his own, I guess. I never found Harvard to be very physically impressive. You know who does have a nice campus, though? Princeton. I only saw Harvard once at 17-years-old and it was the main entrance area if I recall. At 17 I was utterly dazzled. I haven't seen Princeton or Cornell and so my limited viewing of schools made Harvard the prettiest to me. Oxford and Trinity are something truly to behold but considering they have a few years on us from an architectural standpoint, it's kind of cheating. I think Princeton was used in the TV show House and if so, it's quite lovely......and may be the closest I get to seeing it.
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Post by sportsfun on Oct 4, 2014 20:47:09 GMT -5
I have a question for Huskers only fans and it's not intended to start an argument. I'm truly curious. Do most Huskers fans like John Cook? I'm not going to be dishonest and state he's one of my favorite coaches. I like the fans and how could I dislike any of the college players but Cook simply isn't one of my favorite coaches (not me least favorite though). It's entirely possible to like and support a team without liking the coach and so I'm wondering what is the general sentiment towards Cook amongst the fans? I wonder if all the outside bashing (much of it quite mean and over-dramatized) causes fans to rally around him and defend him or rather they are also a bit annoyed by him? I imagine the fact that he's been quite successful would make him endearing to a lot of fans. I'm not looking for people outside of Huskers fans to answer this question because the bashing of Cook by fans of other teams has been done to death.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 4, 2014 23:14:26 GMT -5
To each his own, I guess. I never found Harvard to be very physically impressive. You know who does have a nice campus, though? Princeton. I only saw Harvard once at 17-years-old and it was the main entrance area if I recall. At 17 I was utterly dazzled. I haven't seen Princeton or Cornell and so my limited viewing of schools made Harvard the prettiest to me. Oxford and Trinity are something truly to behold but considering they have a few years on us from an architectural standpoint, it's kind of cheating. :) I think Princeton was used in the TV show House and if so, it's quite lovely......and may be the closest I get to seeing it. I used to live just up the street from Harvard. I only visited Princeton once. I had a high school friend who went there, so she showed me around the campus a bit while I was there. My best buddy at MIT had an amusing Princeton story. He was visiting schools and spent some time at Princeton, where he said people were wearing ties to eat breakfast. Then he visited MIT and people were wearing shorts and sandals to class. He knew from that where he wanted to go to school.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 4, 2014 23:20:22 GMT -5
I don't know what a Runza is but I hope to find out someday. Runza is a chain of restaurants that sell pirozhki-like sandwiches.
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Post by Huskerhawk on Oct 5, 2014 0:06:45 GMT -5
I have a question for Huskers only fans and it's not intended to start an argument. I'm truly curious. Do most Huskers fans like John Cook? I'm not going to be dishonest and state he's one of my favorite coaches. I like the fans and how could I dislike any of the college players but Cook simply isn't one of my favorite coaches (not me least favorite though). It's entirely possible to like and support a team without liking the coach and so I'm wondering what is the general sentiment towards Cook amongst the fans? I wonder if all the outside bashing (much of it quite mean and over-dramatized) causes fans to rally around him and defend him or rather they are also a bit annoyed by him? I imagine the fact that he's been quite successful would make him endearing to a lot of fans. I'm not looking for people outside of Huskers fans to answer this question because the bashing of Cook by fans of other teams has been done to death. JC coaches one of the best volleyball teams in the nation but you wouldn't know it by watching him court side. His court did demeanor suggests that he isn't enjoying it or that he even likes his team. I would think he'd be a lot more successful recruiting if he were more positive during matches. I wouldn't want to send my daughter to play for him. Sent from my XT1080 using proboards
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Post by sportsfun on Oct 5, 2014 0:47:05 GMT -5
I have a question for Huskers only fans and it's not intended to start an argument. I'm truly curious. Do most Huskers fans like John Cook? I'm not going to be dishonest and state he's one of my favorite coaches. I like the fans and how could I dislike any of the college players but Cook simply isn't one of my favorite coaches (not me least favorite though). It's entirely possible to like and support a team without liking the coach and so I'm wondering what is the general sentiment towards Cook amongst the fans? I wonder if all the outside bashing (much of it quite mean and over-dramatized) causes fans to rally around him and defend him or rather they are also a bit annoyed by him? I imagine the fact that he's been quite successful would make him endearing to a lot of fans. I'm not looking for people outside of Huskers fans to answer this question because the bashing of Cook by fans of other teams has been done to death. JC coaches one of the best volleyball teams in the nation but you wouldn't know it by watching him court side. His court did demeanor suggests that he isn't enjoying it or that he even likes his team. I would think he'd be a lot more successful recruiting if he were more positive during matches. I wouldn't want to send my daughter to play for him. Sent from my XT1080 using proboards Interesting observations. Thank you for the input. I have wondered about how the Huskers fans feel about Cook but never asked because I didn't want to turn it into fans of other teams jumping in for yet another excuse to bash him.
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Post by vup on Oct 5, 2014 2:02:28 GMT -5
I have a question for Huskers only fans and it's not intended to start an argument. I'm truly curious. Do most Huskers fans like John Cook? I'm not going to be dishonest and state he's one of my favorite coaches. I like the fans and how could I dislike any of the college players but Cook simply isn't one of my favorite coaches (not me least favorite though). It's entirely possible to like and support a team without liking the coach and so I'm wondering what is the general sentiment towards Cook amongst the fans? I wonder if all the outside bashing (much of it quite mean and over-dramatized) causes fans to rally around him and defend him or rather they are also a bit annoyed by him? I imagine the fact that he's been quite successful would make him endearing to a lot of fans. I'm not looking for people outside of Huskers fans to answer this question because the bashing of Cook by fans of other teams has been done to death. Yes, I think he is generally well liked among Husker fans. 2 time Coach of the Year, 2 time National Champs, 10 conference titles, and holds a 422-52 (.890) record in 15 seasons with Nebraska. Not to mention the in-state home winning streak that spanned 5 seasons, the current sellout streak of over 200, the Devaney Center renovation, and coaching the likes of numerous former and current members of Team USA. His reception is more favorable than any of our Football coaches (Pelini, Papuchis (DC), Beck(OC)). The most popular Husker coach right now is probably Tim Miles (men's bball). Erstad (baseball), Yori (women's bball) and Revelle (softball) are also liked. Cook, however, has been with Nebraska longer any other Husker coach, except Rhonda Revelle, and he is far and away the most decorated and celebrated current Head Coach at Nebraska. Accolades aside, I personally like him a lot-- as a coach and as a person. He knows the game of volleyball, and I think he offers some unique perspective. His philosophy doesn't seem to be centered around stats or moneyball, but rather more of just having fun together as a team, in the moment. He has said in the past that "there are more important things in life than volleyball", and I really appreciate that he communicates that with us. It's good to be reminded of the bigger picture of life, and I think he understands that... He is an inspiration to many of the kids growing up in Nebraska, and he is very passionate about helping people live their dreams. He has huge heart for the State of Nebraska. He is a True Husker, and for that, I am very proud of him.
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Post by sportsfun on Oct 5, 2014 2:21:17 GMT -5
I have a question for Huskers only fans and it's not intended to start an argument. I'm truly curious. Do most Huskers fans like John Cook? I'm not going to be dishonest and state he's one of my favorite coaches. I like the fans and how could I dislike any of the college players but Cook simply isn't one of my favorite coaches (not me least favorite though). It's entirely possible to like and support a team without liking the coach and so I'm wondering what is the general sentiment towards Cook amongst the fans? I wonder if all the outside bashing (much of it quite mean and over-dramatized) causes fans to rally around him and defend him or rather they are also a bit annoyed by him? I imagine the fact that he's been quite successful would make him endearing to a lot of fans. I'm not looking for people outside of Huskers fans to answer this question because the bashing of Cook by fans of other teams has been done to death. Yes, I think he is generally well liked among Husker fans. 2 time Coach of the Year, 2 time National Champs, 10 conference titles, and holds a 422-52 (.890) record in 15 seasons with Nebraska. Not to mention the in-state home winning streak that spanned 5 seasons, the current sellout streak of over 200, the Devaney Center renovation, and coaching the likes of numerous former and current members of Team USA. His reception is more favorable than any of our Football coaches (Pelini, Papuchis (DC), Beck(OC)). The most popular Husker coach right now is probably Tim Miles (men's bball). Erstad (baseball), Yori (women's bball) and Revelle (softball) are also liked. Cook, however, has been with Nebraska longer any other Husker coach, except Rhonda Revelle, and he is far and away the most decorated and celebrated current Head Coach at Nebraska. Accolades aside, I personally like him a lot-- as a coach and as a person. He knows the game of volleyball, and I think he offers some unique perspective. His philosophy is not centered around stats or moneyball, but rather more of just having fun together as a team. He has said in the past that "there are more important things in life than volleyball", and I really appreciate that he communicates that with us. It's good to be reminded of the bigger picture of life, and I think he understands that... He is an inspiration to many of the kids growing up in Nebraska, and he is very passionate about helping people live their dreams. He has huge heart for the State of Nebraska. He is a True Husker, and for that, I am very proud of him. I assumed there might be many different opinions of him within the fan base. Your posts was particularly interesting. When reading your first paragraph I was thinking, this person likes him because he's been so successful, which would be fair enough. However, you wrote a second paragraph about the personal qualities you believe he possesses. I have seen very few Nebraska games because I just discovered this season that I have the Big 10 channel on my TV.....don't know how I missed that one. Having seen so few I didn't have a picture of how he's received by fans. I have read plenty of criticism of him but it's been primarily by fans of opposing teams and so that's taken with a grain of salt. One common theme is his behavior during games and what is often termed as arrogant. Is that not a behavior you have noticed? What I found most interesting about your post was stating that he puts an emphasis on the team having fun together. I keep reading about there possibly being team chemistry issues and if that is at all accurate, I tend to assume it's a coaching issue if it's an ongoing problem. Do you think the team chemistry rumors are just that, rumors? This is the first I have read anyone talking about him being a coach that emphasizes fun. Is this fairly well-known? Or do you have more of an inside look into the team and know a different side to him? I'm assuming from your comment about appreciating him "sharing this with us" that this occurred at chalk talks and/or banquets? I'm always interested in longstanding coaches that have been with very successful programs. While I might hate when Russ Rose beats Stanford, he's another coach that interests me. There are only two coaches that bother me and neither are Cook or Rose.
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Post by vup on Oct 5, 2014 2:29:42 GMT -5
I have a question for Huskers only fans and it's not intended to start an argument. I'm truly curious. Do most Huskers fans like John Cook? I'm not going to be dishonest and state he's one of my favorite coaches. I like the fans and how could I dislike any of the college players but Cook simply isn't one of my favorite coaches (not me least favorite though). It's entirely possible to like and support a team without liking the coach and so I'm wondering what is the general sentiment towards Cook amongst the fans? I wonder if all the outside bashing (much of it quite mean and over-dramatized) causes fans to rally around him and defend him or rather they are also a bit annoyed by him? I imagine the fact that he's been quite successful would make him endearing to a lot of fans. I'm not looking for people outside of Huskers fans to answer this question because the bashing of Cook by fans of other teams has been done to death. JC coaches one of the best volleyball teams in the nation but you wouldn't know it by watching him court side. His court did demeanor suggests that he isn't enjoying it or that he even likes his team. I would think he'd be a lot more successful recruiting if he were more positive during matches. I wouldn't want to send my daughter to play for him. Wow... What the #$%^ are you talking about? His stoic personality has always been one of his trademark characteristics.
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