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Post by psumaui on Jan 26, 2015 15:00:20 GMT -5
Last time I checked, this thread was titled M. Hancock!
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 26, 2015 15:01:09 GMT -5
Last time I checked, this thread was titled M. Hancock! Hancock's team played on Sunday. Her team won in 4. She didn't score any points on serve and Katic set pretty much the whole time.
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Post by mrad on Jan 26, 2015 15:37:27 GMT -5
Well I certainly agree that being the POY doesnt ensure international success, especially given the fact that POY only really goes to a player advancing to FF if not final. Its also important to note that to be a standout player on the US team (one of the best in the world) you have to be the best or second best player at your position in what would be about a 8 year window of players (best US players age 22-30) That is a pretty tough nut to crack, and means that you can be an incredible player and not impact on a high level on US team. Not to mention Karch has to like you. and will Karch let her serve like that ? Karch already implemented a conservative system. Get the ball in, minimize the errors, buckle down and play D.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 17:26:59 GMT -5
Can we please get back to Carlini.
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Post by Phillytom on Jan 26, 2015 20:32:59 GMT -5
Last time I checked, this thread was titled M. Hancock! Yes, back to that. I don't recall anyone arguing that Hancock would set gold medals because she was NPOY. I think NPOY was invoked in the course of arguing that Hancock was a pretty good setter in college. The other assertion that seemed strange to me was the argument that setters don't improve after college. I would bet that Hancock still has plenty of room to improve and, given her work ethic, will in fact improve. Will she be a star at the international level? Her odds are probably about the same as a lot of top tier US college players. Nothing is guaranteed, the competition just gets tougher, and everyone eventually hits hard limits. Hancock hasn't hit hers yet. That is as far as I would go. She's athletic, she's hardworking, she's smart and super competitive. We PSU fans were lucky to see her play at Rec Hall.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 26, 2015 20:38:32 GMT -5
Last time I checked, this thread was titled M. Hancock! Yes, back to that. I don't recall anyone arguing that Hancock would set gold medals because she was NPOY. I think NPOY was invoked in the course of arguing that Hancock was a pretty good setter in college. The other assertion that seemed strange to me was the argument that setters don't improve after college. I would bet that Hancock still has plenty of room to improve and, given her work ethic, will in fact improve. Will she be a star at the international level? Her odds are probably about the same as a lot of top tier US college players. Nothing is guaranteed, the competition just gets tougher, and everyone eventually hits hard limits. Hancock hasn't hit hers yet. That is as far as I would go. She's athletic, she's hardworking, she's smart and super competitive. We PSU fans were lucky to see her play at Rec Hall. If there is anything I have learned after being around competitive sports my whole life, is never underestimate what great competitors can accomplish regardless of their physical or technical limitations.
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Post by kro2488 on Jan 26, 2015 20:52:42 GMT -5
Last time I checked, this thread was titled M. Hancock! Hancock's team played on Sunday. Her team won in 4. She didn't score any points on serve and Katic set pretty much the whole time. And yes I would advocate most women's players being able to jump float and top spin serve effectively. Sometimes top spin can be off or other team just goes great tracking the ball, definitely harder to gauge on the flat floaters, I wouldn't want to pass them on a low women’s net, that would be hell.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 0:30:01 GMT -5
Yes, back to that. I don't recall anyone arguing that Hancock would set gold medals because she was NPOY. I think NPOY was invoked in the course of arguing that Hancock was a pretty good setter in college. The other assertion that seemed strange to me was the argument that setters don't improve after college. I would bet that Hancock still has plenty of room to improve and, given her work ethic, will in fact improve. Will she be a star at the international level? Her odds are probably about the same as a lot of top tier US college players. Nothing is guaranteed, the competition just gets tougher, and everyone eventually hits hard limits. Hancock hasn't hit hers yet. That is as far as I would go. She's athletic, she's hardworking, she's smart and super competitive. We PSU fans were lucky to see her play at Rec Hall. If there is anything I have learned after being around competitive sports my whole life, is never underestimate what great competitors can accomplish regardless of their physical or technical limitations. Would you argue that the majority of professional volleyball players aren't competitive? To me, that seems to be a given for players at the elite level.
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Post by BigFanEst2006 on Jan 27, 2015 0:37:26 GMT -5
Well I certainly agree that being the POY doesnt ensure international success, especially given the fact that POY only really goes to a player advancing to FF if not final. Its also important to note that to be a standout player on the US team (one of the best in the world) you have to be the best or second best player at your position in what would be about a 8 year window of players (best US players age 22-30) That is a pretty tough nut to crack, and means that you can be an incredible player and not impact on a high level on US team. Well said
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 27, 2015 0:38:32 GMT -5
If there is anything I have learned after being around competitive sports my whole life, is never underestimate what great competitors can accomplish regardless of their physical or technical limitations. Would you argue that the majority of professional volleyball players aren't competitive? To me, that seems to be a given for players at the elite level. Well there are certainly different levels of competitors. I would consider her compete level, confidence, will, and lack of fear to be on the very high end. Her compete level and her ability to ramp up her compete level in big moments would be IMO beyond ordinary. If you look at a lot of National teams out there today, while they are all competitive, you see a lot of teams and players lay down in big moments, you don't see that with Hancock.
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Post by alt on Feb 19, 2015 12:21:14 GMT -5
Can we please get back to Carlini. Carlini is not even that great. Micha beats her in everything. She should have won best setter and big ten player of the year. She is over all a better player. I was so mad when Micha did not win any of those awards, but I guess being national player of the year is better than B1G player of the year. I think Carlini has an attitude and that's what makes me mad, she knows she's is a good player and is not modest what so ever.
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Post by #skoskers on Feb 19, 2015 12:24:37 GMT -5
Can we please get back to Carlini. Carlini is not even that great. Micha beats her in everything. She should have won best setter and big ten player of the year. She is over all a better player. I was so mad when Micha did not win any of those awards, but I guess being national player of the year is better than B1G player of the year. I think Carlini has an attitude and that's what makes me mad, she knows she's is a good player and is not modest what so ever. Bitter much? Micha got Setter of the Year in 2013 in the B1G.
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Post by dunninla on Feb 19, 2015 12:35:11 GMT -5
]If there is anything I have learned after being around competitive sports my whole life, is never underestimate what great competitors can accomplish regardless of their physical or technical limitations. This. Especially in team sports where leadership is critical. Very few people percentage wise, let's say 1-2%, actually improve their focus and play when the pressure is highest... in sports, business, relationships, whatever area of life. Improving under pressure is one of life's most rare and valuable mental characteristics.
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Post by kokyu on Feb 19, 2015 17:33:00 GMT -5
Can we please get back to Carlini. Carlini is not even that great. Micha beats her in everything. She should have won best setter and big ten player of the year. She is over all a better player. I was so mad when Micha did not win any of those awards, but I guess being national player of the year is better than B1G player of the year. I think Carlini has an attitude and that's what makes me mad, she knows she's is a good player and is not modest what so ever.
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