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Post by c4ndlelight on May 28, 2015 19:07:51 GMT -5
Tawa has been adamant that his Senior Aces player rankings are based on potential in college. But, he seems to talk in circles when stating that Beth Prince was rated low because of injury. Makes no sense if her ranking is supposed to be on potential in college (which should discount injuries). Not a big deal, but a class comprised of players ranked #4, 5 & 11 versus a recruiting class made up of #3, 10, and 52 must not be weighed as I would expect. If he's assessing which school did the best at filling critical needs, then that is a different factor. Not sure that's what he's done in the past. Recruiting class rankings also have a full club (and HS) season more to work with. It could be 3, 10, and 52 have grown beyond projected in the Fall and would be a lot higher if the rankings were done today, while maybe others might be lower.
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Post by hammer on May 28, 2015 20:01:23 GMT -5
Tawa has been adamant that his Senior Aces player rankings are based on potential in college. But, he seems to talk in circles when stating that Beth Prince was rated low because of injury. Makes no sense if her ranking is supposed to be on potential in college (which should discount injuries). Not a big deal, but a class comprised of players ranked #4, 5 & 11 versus a recruiting class made up of #3, 10, and 52 must not be weighed as I would expect. If he's assessing which school did the best at filling critical needs, then that is a different factor. Not sure that's what he's done in the past. Tawa is only a man and not a god like Poulter.
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Post by big10vb on May 28, 2015 20:25:27 GMT -5
Tawa is only a man and not a god like Poulter.
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Post by BeiBei on May 28, 2015 21:01:27 GMT -5
I appreciate what Tawa did for Senior aces but i always question the way the recruiting classes are ranked. I remember the Bailey Webster and McNeal class was ranked 5th and they are the number 1 and 5 recruits in their class. Any time you signed two of the top 5 players, it should at least be a top 3 class. I pick quality over quantity any day after all only six players can be on the court
I could be wrong i dont think Texas ever have a number 1 class by PV. That is ridiculous especially when they are so close to their second set of top 10 recruits
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Post by queen bey on May 28, 2015 22:59:06 GMT -5
Dude, that was uncool (unless you can link an article). Wait until the articles come out. Prep is a paid site. The Illinois article stated it. It was also posted on another forum that Wisconsin was #3. I don't even have prepvolleyball, but it isn't terribly difficult to figure out who the top 3 were anyway.
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Post by ay2013 on May 29, 2015 0:00:18 GMT -5
With 11 Final Four appearances, a National Runner-up, and a National Championship between them? Yes, I'd say so. They definitely wouldn't be included in THE 4 traditional powers... Look at Nebraska, Wisconsin, USC, Texas... I choked on my spit for a bit.....Wisconsin is a "traditional power" to you but Florida and Washington are not? yeah, you lost a lot of volleytalkers with that. The TRADITIONAL powers are Stanford and Penn State.....and then Nebraska, USC, Texas (bolstered by their recent success)...You can have "HISTORICAL" powers like UCLA, LBSU, Hawaii, Pacific and RECENT top 10 stalwarts like, yes, Washington, Florida, Wisconsin etc....but to say that Wisconsin is a traditional power is silly, and saying Wisconsin in comparison to Florida and especially Washington is a traditional power is just flat out stupid.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 0:27:58 GMT -5
They definitely wouldn't be included in THE 4 traditional powers... Look at Nebraska, Wisconsin, USC, Texas... I choked on my spit for a bit.....Wisconsin is a "traditional power" to you but Florida and Washington are not? yeah, you lost a lot of volleytalkers with that. The TRADITIONAL powers are Stanford and Penn State.....and then Nebraska, USC, Texas (bolstered by their recent success)...You can have "HISTORICAL" powers like UCLA, LBSU, Hawaii, Pacific and RECENT top 10 stalwarts like, yes, Washington, Florida, Wisconsin etc....but to say that Wisconsin is a traditional power is silly, and saying Wisconsin in comparison to Florida and especially Washington is a traditional power is just flat out stupid. I obviously need to apologize for what I said lol. I misspoke. I definitely don't think Wisconsin is on the same level of any of the other teams we're discussing (Nebraska, UT, Stanford, PSU, USC). I included them because I think they're comparable to Florida (one national championship appearance each) and should have been more clear about that. My bad.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 0:36:47 GMT -5
Wisconsin has a couple national championship appearances...but yes.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 0:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by goldenbearfan on May 29, 2015 9:10:26 GMT -5
Excited to see Cal get the #9 spot (http://www.calbears.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30100&ATCLID=210114405).
It'll be interesting to see how these players (esp. Rennie, Kirtley and Albrecht) do. Maybe this is the lift Cal needs to bring them out of the dreadful and miserable hole they dug last season..
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Post by akbar on May 29, 2015 9:15:21 GMT -5
Wisconsin has a couple national championship appearances...but yes. Will they ever get back there in the near future?
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Post by John Tawa-VolleyballMag.com on May 29, 2015 9:55:04 GMT -5
Tawa is only a man and not a god like Poulter. True... I am a god, just not THE God
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Post by John Tawa-VolleyballMag.com on May 29, 2015 9:57:25 GMT -5
I appreciate what Tawa did for Senior aces but i always question the way the recruiting classes are ranked. I remember the Bailey Webster and McNeal class was ranked 5th and they are the number 1 and 5 recruits in their class. Any time you signed two of the top 5 players, it should at least be a top 3 class. I pick quality over quantity any day after all only six players can be on the court I could be wrong i dont think Texas ever have a number 1 class by PV. That is ridiculous especially when they are so close to their second set of top 10 recruits Texas was No. 1 in 2011
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Post by John Tawa-VolleyballMag.com on May 29, 2015 9:59:56 GMT -5
I appreciate what Tawa did for Senior aces but i always question the way the recruiting classes are ranked. I remember the Bailey Webster and McNeal class was ranked 5th and they are the number 1 and 5 recruits in their class. Any time you signed two of the top 5 players, it should at least be a top 3 class. I pick quality over quantity any day after all only six players can be on the court I could be wrong i dont think Texas ever have a number 1 class by PV. That is ridiculous especially when they are so close to their second set of top 10 recruits REMEMBER, I only facilitate the rankings; I do not determine them. To prove my point, here is my comment on Texas' recruiting class with Webster and McNeal: Comment: We’re not quite sure how a team that lands the Nos. 1 and 5 recruits in the country ends up with “only” the fifth-rated class of 2009. Perhaps the college coaches whose opinions shape this ranking didn’t want to put Texas at No. 2 for the fourth year in a row. In any event, the Longhorns landed two absolute gems in Webster and McNeal. Webster, who enrolled early in Austin, is a game-changing type athlete in the mold of current All American Destinee Hooker. She is reputed to touch 10-10, making her almost impossible to block. Webster is the two-time Maryland Gatorade Player of the Year and the top-rated player in the 2009 class. McNeal, rated fifth, is scary fast, whether it’s flying side to side to block or blazing behind the setter for an unblockable slide. Arenas is a quick and athletic high school setter who could find time in the Longhorn back row.
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Post by southie on May 29, 2015 10:08:07 GMT -5
Tawa has been adamant that his Senior Aces player rankings are based on potential in college. But, he seems to talk in circles when stating that Beth Prince was rated low because of injury. Makes no sense if her ranking is supposed to be on potential in college (which should discount injuries). Not a big deal, but a class comprised of players ranked #4, 5 & 11 versus a recruiting class made up of #3, 10, and 52 must not be weighed as I would expect. If he's assessing which school did the best at filling critical needs, then that is a different factor. Not sure that's what he's done in the past. If you are injured a lot, there is a legitimate claim to be made that you might never fulfill your potential. You kind of lost me with that comment. Not sure if you are talking about Yaasmeen or Beth. But, there is a huge gap in their individual rankings which supposedly reflect the "impact" each is predicted to make in college.
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