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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Apr 25, 2016 14:59:04 GMT -5
Let's just get it straight, springfield had an AA middle, julian welsh white, because charlie Sullivan "owns" the committee. No AA middle could possibly get THAT ignored in a national championship. And his stats would say the same. Good middle, not AA good. It's been pointed out that Charlie Sullivan is not on the committee. But even if he was and did "own" the committee, don't you think Springfield's opposite would of made it? No doubt he is one of the top 3 or 4 opposites in the country. I think LJ Marx with his 5 All Americans and the rest of the committee screwed that up big time. LJ would probably wanna put Stevenson's outside on it too considering he played better than all 5 of Carthage's AA's.
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Post by fromtheoutsidein on Apr 25, 2016 23:18:38 GMT -5
First of all most of the awards went to the "Top Teams" before the tourney. 2/3 of that thought was true but it took the tourney to prove that point. If Rutgers would have one the automatic bid Stevenson might not have gotten the nod. That would have been tragic. Yes Shorts proved he belonged at the top and he had a great tourney, but not the regular season. The committee has the info. sheet to get most of it right. We have all heard they use games against Nationally Ranked Teams and if you look at that factor alone certain teams would have been in question. I like it when everybody blames Sullivan, Wickens, and Shawaryn. It makes this blog pretty good. That committee does not have much depth or experience. Heck the last few years they voted the night before and cleaned up the following day. Maybe it has changed, not sure but process usually lasts a few years.
Going into the future the Midwest is locked and loaded but again will only be playing each other. That conference will kill it's opportunities of getting to play only each other 18 or 19 dates. OUCH! With 12 teams and 4 Regional NCAA sites, I see only 1 Midwest team making it in. They are coming on but not next year. It will be interesting how the NCAA committee will put that all together..... 10 Auto, 1 B pool, 3 C pool means a lot of the same teams plus SUNY POLY or Medaille. The UVC probably benefits again. Carthage will need to bring Carthagekitty back in uniform. Maybe it all goes back to the Molten Final 4.
Another great year, another new National Champion. Congrat's NP and Springfield for a solid final.
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Post by Voleibol!!!!!! on Apr 26, 2016 6:25:14 GMT -5
First of all most of the awards went to the "Top Teams" before the tourney. 2/3 of that thought was true but it took the tourney to prove that point. If Rutgers would have one the automatic bid Stevenson might not have gotten the nod. That would have been tragic. Yes Shorts proved he belonged at the top and he had a great tourney, but not the regular season. The committee has the info. sheet to get most of it right. We have all heard they use games against Nationally Ranked Teams and if you look at that factor alone certain teams would have been in question. I like it when everybody blames Sullivan, Wickens, and Shawaryn. It makes this blog pretty good. That committee does not have much depth or experience. Heck the last few years they voted the night before and cleaned up the following day. Maybe it has changed, not sure but process usually lasts a few years. Going into the future the Midwest is locked and loaded but again will only be playing each other. That conference will kill it's opportunities of getting to play only each other 18 or 19 dates. OUCH! With 12 teams and 4 Regional NCAA sites, I see only 1 Midwest team making it in. They are coming on but not next year. It will be interesting how the NCAA committee will put that all together..... 10 Auto, 1 B pool, 3 C pool means a lot of the same teams plus SUNY POLY or Medaille. The UVC probably benefits again. Carthage will need to bring Carthagekitty back in uniform. Maybe it all goes back to the Molten Final 4. Another great year, another new National Champion. Congrat's NP and Springfield for a solid final. Do we know for certain that we are moving to 4 regional sites and making the final site a final four championship? I heard that rumor, but I have not actually seen anything to confirm. Also, you state 10 Autos, that should be 8 right? Will there be a guaranteed pool B bid? A few years ago when we had 8 team qualify, I believe there were no pool B bids, could we be there again once the MCVL and NEAC get their AQ's? What are the requirements needs to have a pool B bid?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 7:09:49 GMT -5
Not sure but I believe the requirement for pool B buds is for there to be 6.5 independent teams in the country.
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Post by Voleibol!!!!!! on Apr 26, 2016 7:44:30 GMT -5
Not sure but I believe the requirement for pool B buds is for there to be 6.5 independent teams in the country. That's the same requirement to add a spot as well right? I count 9 Independents: Webb, Pratt, UCSC, Illinois Tech, Rust, Springfield, Cal Lutheran, Alvernia, Arcadia. Aurora and Augustana has announced and are scheduled to start in 2017-18. Hiram also announce, don't recall their start date, I think it's 2016-17. Illinois Tech, Aurora, Augustana and Hiram have all requested to join the MCVL. At some point the MCVL is going to need to decline these requests. That conference is way to big and hopefully the NCAA can grant them some leeway and let them create a geographical divide without penalizing them with a two year waiting period for an AQ.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 8:51:46 GMT -5
Not sure but I believe the requirement for pool B buds is for there to be 6.5 independent teams in the country. That's the same requirement to add a spot as well right? I count 9 Independents: Webb, Pratt, UCSC, Illinois Tech, Rust, Springfield, Cal Lutheran, Alvernia, Arcadia. Aurora and Augustana has announced and are scheduled to start in 2017-18. Hiram also announce, don't recall their start date, I think it's 2016-17. Illinois Tech, Aurora, Augustana and Hiram have all requested to join the MCVL. At some point the MCVL is going to need to decline these requests. That conference is way to big and hopefully the NCAA can grant them some leeway and let them create a geographical divide without penalizing them with a two year waiting period for an AQ. Agreed with the mcvl. It's already big enough to be two conferences. But don't think the NCAA will allow the leeway. If they did, they would've done the same for the mcvl 2 years ago.
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Post by september on Apr 26, 2016 10:18:27 GMT -5
I think the NCAA might show some leeway and realize the breaking up of a large conference at the D3 is purely for economic reasons (cheaper travel expenses and less time on buses for the student athletes) and not for an AQ. I would hope the NCAA is excited about the growth of men's volleyball and I would think they would not have a desire to in effect penalize schools when a conference is broken up regardless of what they have done historically. People and institutions do change and now would be the time for the NCAA to consider other options.
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Post by mvolleyfoll on Apr 26, 2016 10:22:55 GMT -5
I think you may see the NACC split off because five of the teams in the MCVL as of next year have all their other teams in the NACC. Once they have 8 Teams and they are an established conference don't they get an automatic bid. It would weaken the MCVL because it would mean MSOE, Lakeland, Dominican, Marian would leave the MCVL.
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Post by volleyball20102011 on Apr 26, 2016 11:47:11 GMT -5
Last top 15 poll comes out today. Here is my thought:
1-New Paltz 2-Springfield 3-Stevens 4-Stevenson 5-Carthage 6-Rugters-Newark 7-UCSC 8-Vassar 9-Nazareth 10-Kean 11-Wentworth 12-Elmira 13-NYU 14-MSOE 15-Mount St Joes
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Post by dantheman on Apr 26, 2016 18:53:01 GMT -5
WOW!!! Finally figured out who you are.......Dan Liberto from SUNY Poly, and coach yes you nailed it. You are soooo smart. What predictions sir would like to make for next season, being that you have many opinions on here. How about this coach, worry about coaching your team and not trolling on some forum. Leave that to parents like me and the idiot immature kids. Last top 15 poll comes out today. Here is my thought: 1-New Paltz 2-Springfield 3-Stevens 4-Stevenson 5-Carthage 6-Rugters-Newark 7-UCSC 8-Vassar 9-Nazareth 10-Kean 11-Wentworth 12-Elmira 13-NYU 14-MSOE 15-Mount St Joes
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Post by Voleibol!!!!!! on Apr 26, 2016 19:05:58 GMT -5
WOW!!! Finally figured out who you are.......Dan Liberto from SUNY Poly, and coach yes you nailed it. You are soooo smart. What predictions sir would like to make for next season, being that you have many opinions on here. How about this coach, worry about coaching your team and not trolling on some forum. Leave that to parents like me and the idiot immature kids. Last top 15 poll comes out today. Here is my thought: 1-New Paltz 2-Springfield 3-Stevens 4-Stevenson 5-Carthage 6-Rugters-Newark 7-UCSC 8-Vassar 9-Nazareth 10-Kean 11-Wentworth 12-Elmira 13-NYU 14-MSOE 15-Mount St Joes Says the troll under the bridge. There is no one to coach, the season is over!
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Post by midwestisit on Apr 26, 2016 19:15:34 GMT -5
Can't everyone get along? How many days until we can start talking about my stars from DU or the Redmen from Carthage?
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Post by joc on Apr 26, 2016 19:48:44 GMT -5
WOW!!! Finally figured out who you are.......Dan Liberto from SUNY Poly, and coach yes you nailed it. You are soooo smart. What predictions sir would like to make for next season, being that you have many opinions on here. How about this coach, worry about coaching your team and not trolling on some forum. Leave that to parents like me and the idiot immature kids. Last top 15 poll comes out today. Here is my thought: 1-New Paltz 2-Springfield 3-Stevens 4-Stevenson 5-Carthage 6-Rugters-Newark 7-UCSC 8-Vassar 9-Nazareth 10-Kean 11-Wentworth 12-Elmira 13-NYU 14-MSOE 15-Mount St Joes Starting to feel like a Lord of the Rings movie around here with all the trolls. I'll take Dan's opinions over some of the inaccurate statements that get made here.
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Post by oldschoold3 on Apr 26, 2016 20:02:40 GMT -5
WOW!!! Finally figured out who you are.......Dan Liberto from SUNY Poly, and coach yes you nailed it. You are soooo smart. What predictions sir would like to make for next season, being that you have many opinions on here. How about this coach, worry about coaching your team and not trolling on some forum. Leave that to parents like me and the idiot immature kids. Last top 15 poll comes out today. Here is my thought: 1-New Paltz 2-Springfield 3-Stevens 4-Stevenson 5-Carthage 6-Rugters-Newark 7-UCSC 8-Vassar 9-Nazareth 10-Kean 11-Wentworth 12-Elmira 13-NYU 14-MSOE 15-Mount St Joes Says the person that has posted once. Seems to me that you changed your identity to post stupidity like this. If that is Dan, who cares (obviously you do for some reason). Why don't you share your identity? Seems that you're the immature parent or kid. If this is Dan, he stated what he thought, and that's it. I wonder, what do you have so invested in this forum that you can change your name and attack someone who has invested their blood, sweat and tears into the sport that I love. Where was your prediction....wait, you're a one-poster...or are you? ?
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Post by BiasedBlocker on Apr 27, 2016 7:40:44 GMT -5
Can't everyone get along? How many days until we can start talking about my stars from DU or the Redmen from Carthage? We can start talking about those DUI Stars right now...Dominican will come back with a vengeance next year. Probably won't lose a set all year, and have 4-5 All-Americans.
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