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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 10, 2015 15:43:33 GMT -5
I'll put them in tiers... will learn more next weekend Tier 1: Penn State - Best results on the court of anyone, should blow through the weekend Nebraska - should hold court after a tough weekend in Austin Illinois - got UK in Wichita. Need another ranked win to stay with the other two as their best win is who? L'ville? Tier 2: Wisconsin - Safe confines this weekend, but no tests. Only have one really solid win (UNC) Ohio State - Rebounded nicely from WY, big wins over FSU. Big matches on the road against undefeated Cuse and Zona. Purdue - Nice win over Ohio, embarrassed by a good BYU team. This weekend will prove nothing really Tier 3: Michigan - Have played no one but Ohio, who (while good) has lost most of these marquee games. The rest is fluff. More of the same this weekend. Michigan St - My disappointment so far... lots of L's. Anything but a 3-0 weekend this weekend and they drop a tier. Northwestern - Again, a bit of a disappointment with how they got beat up in ID. Have a chance to pick up a big W over WKU this weekend. Tier 4: Maryland - Hey, they're undefeated... don't look at their schedule though... blech. More of the same this weekend. Indiana - Really odd loss to UTSA.. Cleveland St is a decent team, but not a good loss either. Gonna try to right the ship at home, but I think they lose right off the bat to VT Iowa - Brutal schedule for a not so good team... good win over Pacific. Another tough weekend where they will probably go 1-2 with loses to TAMU and ISU Tier 7: Rutgers - are 0-6 and have picked up 3 total sets against BAD competition... they are THAT bad I'd generally agree with Rampage, but knowing more about UW trajectory, I'd say they have their own tier between one and two. How they do in conference is gonna come down to timing, which may not be on their side given the front heavy schedule. Purdue I agree with second tier, but largely due to their schedule at this point. Michigan could end up being as good a team, but be three games below Purdue just based on the toughness of their schedule. THAT is where the unbalanced schedule matters next year. Rampage--you forgot Minnie. I'd put em tier 2.
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Post by vbprisoner on Sept 10, 2015 15:46:49 GMT -5
Once again another thread gets hijacked by PSU homers! Here is my ranking and we will see how it looks in a month. 1. Illinois 2. Nebraska 3. PSU 4. Wisconsin 5. Ohio St. 6. Minnesota 7. Purdue 8. Michigan 9. MSU Glad to see you back. Psu third. Is that just to get rise out if me. Hahahahah. Nope, I already told you PSU is not winning Championship this year (just a gut feeling). I still think setting and defense against top teams will not be the same as last year. They might be settled by end of year, but they have tough matches early in conference. If they get through those early matches with wins then I am wrong.
I think Ill has the pieces now to play consistent and as long as they do; them and Nebraska are who I think will fight it out for the B1G title.
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 10, 2015 15:47:35 GMT -5
PSU Nebraska Illinois Wisconsin Purdue MSU Minnesota tOSU Michigan Northwestern Iowa Maryland Indiana Rutgers You have MSU WAY too high for the number of losses they have picked up so far. My standings are based on how each team will predictably finish in the B1G. I'm not considering preseason results, since they have no bearing on conference-only win-loss records. For example, Maryland currently holds an 8-0 record, but I think they'll go 4-16 in the B1G.
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Post by rampageripster on Sept 10, 2015 15:50:27 GMT -5
I'd generally agree with Rampage, but knowing more about UW trajectory, I'd say they have their own tier between one and two. How they do in conference is gonna come down to timing, which may not be on their side given the front heavy schedule. Purdue I agree with second tier, but largely due to their schedule at this point. Michigan could end up being as good a team, but be three games below Purdue just based on the toughness of their schedule. THAT is where the unbalanced schedule matters next year. Rampage--you forgot Minnie. I'd put em tier 2. Ya, I dun goofed and made the change. And I agree on Wisconsin... There just isn't anything their yet to warrant inclusion in the top tier. I probably should have put them with Illinois in a 2nd tier.
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Post by rampageripster on Sept 10, 2015 15:53:48 GMT -5
You have MSU WAY too high for the number of losses they have picked up so far. My standings are based on how each team will predictably finish in the B1G. I'm not considering preseason results, since they have no bearing on conference-only win-loss records. For example, Maryland currently holds an 8-0 record, but I think they'll go 4-16 in the B1G. Yes, I understand how conference v. OOC records work... thanks for the lesson I'm more saying that MSU has dropped nearly every competitive match and has a BAD 0-3 loss against Miami (OH) at home. Where is the confidence that they will win games in conference? Did it come from their 5 set win over Butler at home or their wins over IUPUI (gross) and Arkansas-Pine Bluff (more gross)?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 15:54:59 GMT -5
Tier 3: Michigan St - My disappointment so far... lots of L's. Anything but a 3-0 weekend this weekend and they drop a tier. Disappointing, definitely, but not because they aren't playing well. One of the two attackers on the roster with an ability to pass the ball was recovering from a concussion, and the other was a massive impact player filling a huge role who tore her ACL in the first match of the season against a top 25 opponent, yet the team still managed to take them to 5 on their home court. Their next best pin attacker was in a boot, too. They definitely have things to figure out, systematically and leadership-wise, but I don't think they're a disappointment after five matches considering the things they're trying to manage. Unfortunate, sure, but not a disappointment.
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Post by lionsfan on Sept 10, 2015 15:55:17 GMT -5
Guys, we've been through the schedule thing before. Schedules won't matter much for the top four teams, although it favors them over the rest of the field. PSU plays: UW 1 (H), Ill 1 (A), Neb 2 NEB plays: UW 1 (H), Ill 1 (A) , PSU 2 ILL plays: PSU 1 (H), Neb 1 (H), UW 2 UW plays: PSU 1 (A), Neb 1 (A), Ill 2 Michigan has it the worst. They play all top 4 teams twice. Rutgers/Maryland twice. Nebraska and Illinois play twice; Michigan gets Rutgers/MD once.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 10, 2015 15:59:53 GMT -5
Guys, we've been through the schedule thing before. Schedules won't matter much for the top four teams, although it favors them over the rest of the field. PSU plays: UW 1 (H), Ill 1 (A), Neb 2 NEB plays: UW 1 (H), Ill 1 (A) , PSU 2 ILL plays: PSU 1 (H), Neb 1 (H), UW 2 UW plays: PSU 1 (A), Neb 1 (A), Ill 2 Michigan has it the worst. They play all top 4 teams twice. Rutgers/Maryland twice. Nebraska and Illinois play twice; Michigan gets Rutgers/MD once. You're right! I misremembered from last year. That's the only one I didn't check of course. I know that about Michigan. I'll correct if wrong in original. EDIT: When I wrote twice, I meant that the combined games against Rutgers and Maryland is twice. Thus some teams get them four times, others three.
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Post by rampageripster on Sept 10, 2015 16:01:31 GMT -5
Tier 3: Michigan St - My disappointment so far... lots of L's. Anything but a 3-0 weekend this weekend and they drop a tier. Disappointing, definitely, but not because they aren't playing well. One of the two attackers on the roster with an ability to pass the ball was recovering from a concussion, and the other was a massive impact player filling a huge role who tore her ACL in the first match of the season against a top 25 opponent, yet the team still managed to take them to 5 on their home court. Their next best pin attacker was in a boot, too. They definitely have things to figure out, systematically and leadership-wise, but I don't think they're a disappointment after five matches considering the things they're trying to manage. Unfortunate, sure, but not a disappointment. I reckon unfortunate is the better term... I expect even less of them moving forward with that sort of injury issue.
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Post by buckybadger8 on Sept 10, 2015 16:17:11 GMT -5
You don't NEED to "rank" the Big 10 because they will rank themselves if you wait a couple of months. Anyway, it's a unbalanced schedule and we haven't yet seen the injuries or growth that will define the season. Too Early. I don't know, maybe it's FUN and adds GOOD conversation to see whateveryones thoughts and opinions are based on preseason. I'll go ahead and say I'm sure most predictions won't be the outcome of all. Until then, go rain on other parades.
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Post by buckybadger8 on Sept 10, 2015 16:20:14 GMT -5
Big Ten Final Standings 1. Meechigan 2. Nebraska 3. Illinois 4. Ohio State 5. Penn State 6. Wisconsin 7. Purdue 8. Iowa 9. Northwestern 10. Maryland 11. Michigan State 12. Minnesota 13. Rutgers 14. Indiana Who would have thunk! PSU fifth?!?!! (i know, i know.. it's a joke........i hope). When was the last time PSU fifth or worse in the BIG? Ever? Can anyone pull those stats? I'm too lazy.. -__-
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Post by lionsfan on Sept 10, 2015 16:21:32 GMT -5
Big Ten Final Standings 1. Meechigan 2. Nebraska 3. Illinois 4. Ohio State 5. Penn State 6. Wisconsin 7. Purdue 8. Iowa 9. Northwestern 10. Maryland 11. Michigan State 12. Minnesota 13. Rutgers 14. Indiana Who would have thunk! PSU fifth?!?!! (i know, i know.. it's a joke........i hope). When was the last time PSU fifth or worse in the BIG? Ever? Can anyone pull those stats? I'm too lazy.. -__- The lowest PSU has finished in conference is 3rd; too lazy to look up what years that was
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Post by HappyVolley on Sept 10, 2015 16:22:47 GMT -5
Penn State* Illinois* Nebraska* Wisconsin* Ohio State* Minnesota* Purdue* Michigan* Michigan State Iowa Northwestern Indiana Maryland Rutgers * = Tournament Team Allow me to rerank the above: Penn State**Illinois* Nebraska* Wisconsin* Ohio State* Minnesota* Purdue* Michigan* Michigan State Iowa Northwestern Indiana Maryland Rutgers ** = NCAA Champion * = Tournament Team I like that better.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 10, 2015 16:25:25 GMT -5
Kubricks has just visited us from an alternate universe where PSU does not dominate the B1G. Sounds like a nice place. How do you get there?
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Post by buckybadger8 on Sept 10, 2015 16:27:10 GMT -5
PSU fifth?!?!! (i know, i know.. it's a joke........i hope). When was the last time PSU fifth or worse in the BIG? Ever? Can anyone pull those stats? I'm too lazy.. -__- The lowest PSU has finished in conference is 3rd; too lazy to look up what years that was Good lort.
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