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Post by downtheline on Apr 4, 2017 23:40:58 GMT -5
Block party 10:
I did not realize she was injured this year, that could lead to missing practices and inconsistent stats. If true I've been mis-informed and am all wet.
When you watch FIVB events, the top players execute at a very high consistency, very often only making 1-3 service & hitting errors a set, and sometimes in the whole match.
Having watched her game improve year in and year out for the past 4 years, I ask, what is different this season?
Your explaination to the wild swings this year? Injury. I stand corrected. And I also hope her team continues their winning ways, but most importantly returning to 100%.
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Post by gobruins on Apr 5, 2017 4:38:22 GMT -5
Another Kid who can break an ankle and I wouldn't be sorry for her That's a little harsh to say about a college player... What did she do to foster so much hate from you?? Bukeovic started her US career at Long Beach State before transferring to USC. Kelly Claes originally committed to Long Beach State's indoor team, before deciding to sign with USC's beach team. Some Long Beach State fans hold a grudge against the players who spurned their beloved 49ers.
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Post by trollhunter on Apr 5, 2017 9:28:01 GMT -5
Thanks mom. You a conspiracy theorist? So the level of play equal or lower than last year? Correct, it's lower. Dropping 3 sets, almost 5, and a match against Utah. Blocking & hitting percentage also lower. In a senior year this team should be crushing opponents and it's not, with quite a few squeakers . Please explain why if KC is at her peak & highly focused. The teammates are well aware of the performance & attendance slips, since your not, you must not be an unbiased fan of her game. A true fan would want to see her at her best, and not lay excuses at courtside. Consistency has been her lynchpin. The difference between good & great. Personally since I've seen greatest come & go in her game, any ardent fan would want to see the best in and for her. I'm confused, are you saying Hughes and Claes lost a match this season? To my knowledge, they are 26-0. m.usctrojans.com/m/sports/w-svolley/spec-rel/040417aaa.htmlActually, yes and no. They forfeited a match in a pairs tournament with LMU due to injury/exhaustion/tight hamstrings. So they are technically 26-1, despite the press release. Here is the article on LMU and I know someone that was there: "Following the dual, the two teams engaged in a pairs' tournament where Claes and Hughes picked up two more wins: one over Belton and Kremer, 21-15, 21-10; the other over Cannon and Martin, 21-11, 21-18. The two victories pushed their streak further to 87 straight wins. The Trojans ended up putting two teams into the finals. Kernochan and Wheeler used three sets in the semifinals to knock off the top LMU pair of Slattery and Sponcil, 21-15, 16-21, 15-10. Kernochan and Wheeler used three sets in the semifinals to knock off the top LMU pair of Slattery and Sponcil, 21-15, 16-21, 15-10. In the final, the Trojans opted to play an exhibition match, which Cannon and Hughes won, 21-14, 21-18, over Kernochan and Wheeler." The NCAA has no "option to play an exhibition" in a final of a tournament, even if it is two pairs from the same school. There are also no substitutes allowed within an event. They can put whatever spin they want on it, but that is what happened. Just another example of a Beach coach bending rules to suit themselves.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Apr 5, 2017 10:31:05 GMT -5
That's a little harsh to say about a college player... What did she do to foster so much hate from you?? Bukeovic started her US career at Long Beach State before transferring to USC. Kelly Claes originally committed to Long Beach State's indoor team, before deciding to sign with USC's beach team. Some Long Beach State fans hold a grudge against the players who spurned their beloved 49ers. I guess when you've got a coach like BG not surprising their fans (not all) would be the type to wish injuries on kids.
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Post by greenpier on Apr 5, 2017 12:11:12 GMT -5
Some Long Beach State fans hold a grudge against the players who spurned their beloved 49ers. They really hate Misty May now.
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Post by greenpier on Apr 5, 2017 12:12:57 GMT -5
USC
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Apr 5, 2017 12:15:02 GMT -5
Actually, yes and no. They forfeited a match in a pairs tournament with LMU due to injury/exhaustion/tight hamstrings. So they are technically 26-1, despite the press release. Here is the article on LMU and I know someone that was there: "Following the dual, the two teams engaged in a pairs' tournament where Claes and Hughes picked up two more wins: one over Belton and Kremer, 21-15, 21-10; the other over Cannon and Martin, 21-11, 21-18. The two victories pushed their streak further to 87 straight wins. The Trojans ended up putting two teams into the finals. Kernochan and Wheeler used three sets in the semifinals to knock off the top LMU pair of Slattery and Sponcil, 21-15, 16-21, 15-10. Kernochan and Wheeler used three sets in the semifinals to knock off the top LMU pair of Slattery and Sponcil, 21-15, 16-21, 15-10. In the final, the Trojans opted to play an exhibition match, which Cannon and Hughes won, 21-14, 21-18, over Kernochan and Wheeler." The NCAA has no "option to play an exhibition" in a final of a tournament, even if it is two pairs from the same school. There are also no substitutes allowed within an event. They can put whatever spin they want on it, but that is what happened. Just another example of a Beach coach bending rules to suit themselves. My understanding is that in the eyes of the NCAA all pairs competitions are "exhibitions." Only duals are considered "competition." So I'm not sure any rules were broken, but I'll be the first to admit it's not a specific scenario I've come across before.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Apr 5, 2017 12:16:36 GMT -5
Some Long Beach State fans hold a grudge against the players who spurned their beloved 49ers. They really hate Misty May now. Misty brought her entire LBCC beach team to watch USC practice the other day. Guess which school she didn't bring her team to watch practice?
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Post by FOBRA on Apr 5, 2017 12:28:38 GMT -5
My understanding is that in the eyes of the NCAA all pairs competitions are "exhibitions." Only duals are considered "competition." So I'm not sure any rules were broken, but I'll be the first to admit it's not a specific scenario I've come across before. I don't see it as a big deal unless they're counting wins in pairs competition as part of their win streak/record but not counting the forfeit. Should be one or the other.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Apr 5, 2017 12:32:43 GMT -5
My understanding is that in the eyes of the NCAA all pairs competitions are "exhibitions." Only duals are considered "competition." So I'm not sure any rules were broken, but I'll be the first to admit it's not a specific scenario I've come across before. I don't see it as a big deal unless they're counting wins in pairs competition as part of their win streak/record but not counting the forfeit. Should be one or the other. I imagine they do (although I haven't looked), so fair enough.
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Post by trollhunter on Apr 5, 2017 12:34:23 GMT -5
Actually, yes and no. They forfeited a match in a pairs tournament with LMU due to injury/exhaustion/tight hamstrings. So they are technically 26-1, despite the press release. Here is the article on LMU and I know someone that was there: "Following the dual, the two teams engaged in a pairs' tournament where Claes and Hughes picked up two more wins: one over Belton and Kremer, 21-15, 21-10; the other over Cannon and Martin, 21-11, 21-18. The two victories pushed their streak further to 87 straight wins. The Trojans ended up putting two teams into the finals. Kernochan and Wheeler used three sets in the semifinals to knock off the top LMU pair of Slattery and Sponcil, 21-15, 16-21, 15-10. Kernochan and Wheeler used three sets in the semifinals to knock off the top LMU pair of Slattery and Sponcil, 21-15, 16-21, 15-10. In the final, the Trojans opted to play an exhibition match, which Cannon and Hughes won, 21-14, 21-18, over Kernochan and Wheeler." The NCAA has no "option to play an exhibition" in a final of a tournament, even if it is two pairs from the same school. There are also no substitutes allowed within an event. They can put whatever spin they want on it, but that is what happened. Just another example of a Beach coach bending rules to suit themselves. My understanding is that in the eyes of the NCAA all pairs competitions are "exhibitions." Only duals are considered "competition." So I'm not sure any rules were broken, but I'll be the first to admit it's not a specific scenario I've come across before. No, pairs tournaments still count as real competition. They are less popular now since there is no NCAA pairs post-season event. Hopefully that changes soon. 20.10.3.3.9 Beach Volleyball. A member institution shall meet minimum sports sponsorship in beach volleyball by applying the following: (Adopted: 1/16/10 effective 8/1/10, Revised: 5/1/15) (a) Not less than three of the eight contests shall be dual, one-day competitions where all five two-person teams compete (e.g., institution versus institution on a single day). Only one contest per day shall count toward meeting this requirement; (Revised: 10/22/13) (b) The remaining number of contests shall be achieved by satisfying Bylaw 20.10.3.3.9-(a) or multiopponent competitions. For a tournament to qualify for sports sponsorship purposes, all five twoperson teams must be in competition with all other participating institutions and one institution shall be crowned champion of the tournament based on the performance of its five, two-person teams;
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Post by trollhunter on Apr 5, 2017 12:37:14 GMT -5
My understanding is that in the eyes of the NCAA all pairs competitions are "exhibitions." Only duals are considered "competition." So I'm not sure any rules were broken, but I'll be the first to admit it's not a specific scenario I've come across before. I don't see it as a big deal unless they're counting wins in pairs competition as part of their win streak/record but not counting the forfeit. Should be one or the other. Yes, they are counting the wins in pairs tournaments (as everyone does each year). But not the forfeit.
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Post by newbeach on Apr 5, 2017 15:51:38 GMT -5
What is Sophie Bulovec's status? I haven't heard what her condition is. I know she hasn't played a few matches (and neither has Wheeler), with Cannon and Martin playing at flight two.
Is Wheeler still out after the concussion protocol? I am just not sure why Wheeler wouldn't be paired with someone else at 2 even if Sophie is out?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Apr 6, 2017 1:46:10 GMT -5
What is Sophie Bulovec's status? I haven't heard what her condition is. I know she hasn't played a few matches (and neither has Wheeler), with Cannon and Martin playing at flight two. Is Wheeler still out after the concussion protocol? I am just not sure why Wheeler wouldn't be paired with someone else at 2 even if Sophie is out? Wheeler played last weekend. Bukovec and Bustamante both stayed at home, although I don't know what their injuries are or what their status is going forward.
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Post by newbeach on Apr 6, 2017 8:20:35 GMT -5
What is Sophie Bulovec's status? I haven't heard what her condition is. I know she hasn't played a few matches (and neither has Wheeler), with Cannon and Martin playing at flight two. Is Wheeler still out after the concussion protocol? I am just not sure why Wheeler wouldn't be paired with someone else at 2 even if Sophie is out? Wheeler played last weekend. Bukovec and Bustamante both stayed at home, although I don't know what their injuries are or what their status is going forward. Thanks! Good to hear Wheeler played. Hopefully, the injuries aren't too serious!
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