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Post by slickrick1342 on Aug 24, 2017 9:31:19 GMT -5
John and Ryan are done as a team after this season, no question. It's already been decided and spoken of. As for Ryan's FIVB future, it's pretty much a done deal that he will be teaming with Reid next season.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 24, 2017 9:44:45 GMT -5
John and Ryan are done as a team after this season, no question. It's already been decided and spoken of. As for Ryan's FIVB future, it's pretty much a done deal that he will be teaming with Reid next season. Wow thanks for the update. Very interesting. Do you know who made that decision? For both guys this is their best FIVB season ever or in a long time. Surprised Ryan is willing to head back to the qualifiers, do you know if a favorable financial split may have been agreed on?
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Post by slickrick1342 on Aug 24, 2017 10:00:30 GMT -5
John and Ryan are done as a team after this season, no question. It's already been decided and spoken of. As for Ryan's FIVB future, it's pretty much a done deal that he will be teaming with Reid next season. Wow thanks for the update. Very interesting. Do you know who made that decision? For both guys this is their best FIVB season ever or in a long time. Surprised Ryan is willing to head back to the qualifiers, do you know if a favorable financial split may have been agreed on? John is pretty set on retiring from International play but will probably still be seen on the AVP tour. As for Reid and Ryan, not sure of any details. Just word of mouth from a few very reliable sources.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Aug 24, 2017 10:12:45 GMT -5
John and Ryan are done as a team after this season, no question. It's already been decided and spoken of. As for Ryan's FIVB future, it's pretty much a done deal that he will be teaming with Reid next season. Wow thanks for the update. Very interesting. Do you know who made that decision? For both guys this is their best FIVB season ever or in a long time. Surprised Ryan is willing to head back to the qualifiers, do you know if a favorable financial split may have been agreed on? Watching John and Ryan, to me, John has looked very frustrated. Sides wise, Theo and John would match up, putting Theo back on the left. He's only been playing the Right for a few weeks, but if Theo can steady out over there, it could give him a few more options. I think Reid could pull a couple WCs, and if they use the same system next year, Ryan's points should be good for MDs in some 3 and 2 star events. Reid would have to move to the Right with Ryan, but that shouldn't be too crazy for him.
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Post by langle on Aug 24, 2017 10:34:16 GMT -5
Wow, who could of imagined that Reid would be playing with Ryan. Sets him up with a pretty decent shot of going to the olympics if he can keep improving and play well with the giants on the fivb well.
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Post by ajm on Aug 24, 2017 10:48:12 GMT -5
Wow thanks for the update. Very interesting. Do you know who made that decision? For both guys this is their best FIVB season ever or in a long time. Surprised Ryan is willing to head back to the qualifiers, do you know if a favorable financial split may have been agreed on? I think Reid could pull a couple WCs, and if they use the same system next year, Ryan's points should be good for MDs in some 3 and 2 star events. Reid would have to move to the Right with Ryan, but that shouldn't be too crazy for him. Reid is already playing on the right with Ricardo. As for Ryan, picking up Reid seems like a good move. This was clearly Ryan's best season playing internationally. It shouldn't take them long for them to get into the main draws in all events. And to think Ryan is getting a partner 5 years younger! Probably the best shot both have at getting to Tokyo assuming they stay healthy.
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Post by donnyb on Aug 24, 2017 11:19:02 GMT -5
It was Ryan's best season because of John! Admit it or not John is really good! His competitive drive is as high as anyone else's! Could he make the Olympics at 48 years old?? Lol. A part of me wants to say yeah.
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Post by slickrick1342 on Aug 24, 2017 11:39:58 GMT -5
It was Ryan's best season because of John! Admit it or not John is really good! His competitive drive is as high as anyone else's! Could he make the Olympics at 48 years old?? Lol. A part of me wants to say yeah. John could easily make the Olympics at 48 with the right partner, but that's not in his interest. He'll be retiring from FIVB after this season.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 24, 2017 11:51:04 GMT -5
It was Ryan's best season because of John! Admit it or not John is really good! His competitive drive is as high as anyone else's! Could he make the Olympics at 48 years old?? Lol. A part of me wants to say yeah. John could easily make the Olympics at 48 with the right partner, but that's not in his interest. He'll be retiring from FIVB after this season. Unless that partner is a healthy, 28 year old Phil, I wouldn't go that far, but I would dove to see him try to keep going. What he has done at his age has been unprecedented. Really a shame he never got an FIVB shot with a great partner, although partially his own fault because he and Sean chose not to play internationally when they seemed like one of the top 5 or so teams in the world
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Post by haze on Aug 24, 2017 13:23:18 GMT -5
Rosie has been playing some of the best ball of his career this year. He's back to his old physical self but with an added layer of craftiness. I think he's easily win with a handful of other blockers like SS, Theo, and Phil obviously. Rosie has looked great, but how does that old saying go, "fool me once shame on you, fool me 327 times...." Phil/Nick they should lose to, but they had two very winnable finals and a semi where they got blown out by SS/BA. I think the fact that post-Phil Sean has played with pretty much every possible blocker except Ryan and had limited success may weigh against him. A lot of that is due to injuries, but it may be hard for blockers with points like Brunner or Doherty to take a chance on Sean now Rosie's partners after Sean were all IMO circumstantial. For one, he played towards the end of his partnership with Phil, and also played with Casebeer, Theo, and Slick with a progressing back issue that eventually turned into a ruptured disk, which is serious. He finally got his back fixed with the stem cell therapy over the last offseason and all of a sudden he's playing like this. I won't get as far to say he should all of a sudden be on the top of every US blocker's mind because he did have a serious injury and that very well could come back, but I'll also dismiss his lack of results with Casebeer, Theo, and Slick to him playing with a terrible back and probably playing at somewhere around 50-75% which makes a difference. If he didn't have his back flare up which turned into a ruptured disk, I would say he would still be playing with Phil. And if not, he certainly would have had better success with all the partners he's playing with after. Rosie this season, consistently, has been a significantly better player than every US defender with the exception of Taylor, and maybe Nick, and I would say he's been better than both of those consistently all season.
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Post by haze on Aug 24, 2017 14:09:53 GMT -5
Ryan choosing to play with Reid on the FIVB next year is a pretty curious one. He could probably get a much better parnter, with more FIVB points, and younger, considering US defenders are a dime a dozen right now in comparison to the blockers.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Aug 24, 2017 14:30:24 GMT -5
Ryan choosing to play with Reid on the FIVB next year is a pretty curious one. He could probably get a much better parnter, with more FIVB points, and younger, considering US defenders are a dime a dozen right now in comparison to the blockers. Who? Mayer?? don't think he wants FIVB, they tried that. Allen?? Not sure he's dynamic enough for FIVB DelSol??.... Tayor is the only young defender above Reid.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 24, 2017 14:37:57 GMT -5
Rosie has looked great, but how does that old saying go, "fool me once shame on you, fool me 327 times...." Phil/Nick they should lose to, but they had two very winnable finals and a semi where they got blown out by SS/BA. I think the fact that post-Phil Sean has played with pretty much every possible blocker except Ryan and had limited success may weigh against him. A lot of that is due to injuries, but it may be hard for blockers with points like Brunner or Doherty to take a chance on Sean now If he didn't have his back flare up which turned into a ruptured disk, I would say he would still be playing with Phil. And if not, he certainly would have had better success with all the partners he's playing with after. Rosie this season, consistently, has been a significantly better player than every US defender with the exception of Taylor, and maybe Nick, and I would say he's been better than both of those consistently all season. I agree Sean's injuries definitely played a huge role, but its hard to say he has been better than Hyden, unless you are only talking AVP. Also even if you are only talking AVP, I think Billy Allen has had a better year. Either way I hope Sean gets another shot and if I were him I would be blowing up Ricardo's and Tri's phones
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Post by haze on Aug 24, 2017 14:38:25 GMT -5
Ryan choosing to play with Reid on the FIVB next year is a pretty curious one. He could probably get a much better parnter, with more FIVB points, and younger, considering US defenders are a dime a dozen right now in comparison to the blockers. Who? Mayer?? don't think he wants FIVB, they tried that. Allen?? Not sure he's dynamic enough for FIVB DelSol??.... Tayor is the only young defender above Reid. Rosie for one, but you may be right actually. I wouldn't hold my faith in that time Internationally, and quite honestly I would have to either start rooting for DOugherty which isn't possible or would have to root against Priddy which isn't possible. Please don't do that to me guys.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 24, 2017 15:01:36 GMT -5
Ryan choosing to play with Reid on the FIVB next year is a pretty curious one. He could probably get a much better parnter, with more FIVB points, and younger, considering US defenders are a dime a dozen right now in comparison to the blockers. Who? Mayer?? don't think he wants FIVB, they tried that. Allen?? Not sure he's dynamic enough for FIVB DelSol??.... Tayor is the only young defender above Reid. Why is Reid better than Zaun? Zaun certainly has more potential and I don't see a difference now. I think we all give Reid credit for the Olympic record and because of his aggressive pr, but he and Zaun have almost identical finishes this year (Reid has one more third and failed to qualify once) and Eric has played with two career bottom feeders (Lorenz and Ratledge - love you Eddie) and Reid played 4 of 7 with Beach Olympians. Both have beaten exactly one regular FIVB team this year and the two times they played each other they were two point games in the third. Reid also had the advantage of the best coaches, trainers etc. (as per his video) whereas Eric was sleeping in a van. If you were Doherty and looking forward, who will get better, Zaun is 24 and Reid will be 40 at the start of the next season. Zaun who would get new access to top flight coaching playing with a top USA player (I think thats how USAV works?) or Reid who has already had it for a year? Thanks to the occasional Hyden and the way FIVB points let players hang on, we tend to ignore age, but every player in history except John has been substantially worse at 40 than at 35, and Reid is counting on improving significantly post-40.
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