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Post by tamz on Aug 27, 2017 8:47:59 GMT -5
21-15, 21-13
ITS GOLD FOR THE USA! Brazil takes Silver
Brazil had way too many service errors and unforced errors.
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Post by swift on Aug 27, 2017 8:53:04 GMT -5
"Turning point of the second set" is Phil getting a block to go up 18-12? This is a blocking masterclass. Seems like Nick has been blocked or dug on 75-80% of his swings this game and it doesn't matter, Phil is just too good Nick really is the luckiest guy in Beach volleyball. Playing mediocre volleyball but stacking up those wins and making big bucks thanks to Phil. I really was hoping for a great final but Brazil wasn't able to deliver and Phil dominated. His block coverage is out of this world. Every time Nick gets blocked Phil covers him and puts it away.
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Post by donnyb on Aug 27, 2017 8:59:58 GMT -5
"Turning point of the second set" is Phil getting a block to go up 18-12? This is a blocking masterclass. Seems like Nick has been blocked or dug on 75-80% of his swings this game and it doesn't matter, Phil is just too good Nick really is the luckiest guy in Beach volleyball. Playing mediocre volleyball but stacking up those wins and making big bucks thanks to Phil. I really was hoping for a great final but Brazil wasn't able to deliver and Phil dominated. His block coverage is out of this world. Every time Nick gets blocked Phil covers him and puts it away. 🤔 I think nick played well. Dug a few good balls, sided out pretty good. I find it hard to think if phil was with any other player he would of won. There's something about a team gelling that converts to wins.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 9:01:11 GMT -5
Brazil played really bad. Evandro just gives up as soon things are not going on his way.
I did not realize Lucena is 37 already. I wonder how much longer they will stay together?
I just checked and Dollar to Real ( Brazilian money) is $3.16. Which means the Brazilians won U$$75K but that will be 236K in Brazilian money for them. Same for Larrisa/Talita they made U$$50K but 157K in Brazilian money.
another thing, for next season and on, FIVB should have the BEST 12 teams independent if more than 2 are from the same country. The men`s tournament did not have 3 of the best teams Alison/Bruno , the Latvians and the Dutch.
Does the World Tour Finals happens every year? If so, at least on the World Championship year they should pay 60K for the winner of the Tour Final and pay 100K for the World Championship winners, as the WCH is more important.
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Post by ajm on Aug 27, 2017 9:21:04 GMT -5
Nick really is the luckiest guy in Beach volleyball. Playing mediocre volleyball but stacking up those wins and making big bucks thanks to Phil. I really was hoping for a great final but Brazil wasn't able to deliver and Phil dominated. His block coverage is out of this world. Every time Nick gets blocked Phil covers him and puts it away. 🤔 I think nick played well. Dug a few good balls, sided out pretty good. I find it hard to think if phil was with any other player he would of won. There's something about a team gelling that converts to wins. I agree. I thought Nick played better than I've seen him play all year. Never got into a rut siding out. Of course it helped that Brazil kept serving into the net and accidentally serving Phil too often. But Phil definitely dominated at the net and intimidated Brazil into so many hitting errors.
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Post by tamz on Aug 27, 2017 9:39:00 GMT -5
🤔 I think nick played well. Dug a few good balls, sided out pretty good. I find it hard to think if phil was with any other player he would of won. There's something about a team gelling that converts to wins. I agree. I thought Nick played better than I've seen him play all year. Never got into a rut siding out. Of course it helped that Brazil kept serving into the net and accidentally serving Phil too often. But Phil definitely dominated at the net and intimidated Brazil into so many hitting errors. I agree with you both. In today's gold medal match, Nick really stepped up a notch. Compared to yesterday's quarterfinal match against Canada, they were just not getting any balls in the first set and throughout most of the second set. Maybe that was a wake up call. Today both of them played great! Everything was just going wrong for the Brazilians. Nick must have sighed of relief by them serving Phil instead of him. Haha 7 blocks from Phil for the semifinals and 7 blocks for the gold medal match. I'm so happy for them! Gold at world tour finals!
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Post by tamz on Aug 27, 2017 9:47:03 GMT -5
Brazil played really bad. Evandro just gives up as soon things are not going on his way. I did not realize Lucena is 37 already. I wonder how much longer they will stay together? I just checked and Dollar to Real ( Brazilian money) is $3.16. Which means the Brazilians won U$$75K but that will be 236K in Brazilian money for them. Same for Larrisa/Talita they made U$$50K but 157K in Brazilian money. another thing, for next season and on, FIVB should have the BEST 12 teams independent if more than 2 are from the same country. The men`s tournament did not have 3 of the best teams Alison/Bruno , the Latvians and the Dutch. Does the World Tour Finals happens every year? If so, at least on the World Championship year they should pay 60K for the winner of the Tour Final and pay 100K for the World Championship winners, as the WCH is more important. Both Lucena and Dalhausser are 37, but Nick turns 38 sometime later this year. Do you mean regardless of the maximum 2 teams per country, the teams should be based on their rankings? All 12 teams? No wildcards? I know for World Tour Finals, no ranking points are given but for World Champs, the winning team takes 1600 points. I guess it's the season finale, so it has the largest prize purse. As Ben Saxton wrote for the latest blog entry for the Major Series, this is their bonus at the end of the year.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 27, 2017 10:18:19 GMT -5
🤔 I think nick played well. Dug a few good balls, sided out pretty good. I find it hard to think if phil was with any other player he would of won. There's something about a team gelling that converts to wins. I agree. I thought Nick played better than I've seen him play all year. Never got into a rut siding out. Of course it helped that Brazil kept serving into the net and accidentally serving Phil too often. But Phil definitely dominated at the net and intimidated Brazil into so many hitting errors. Better than he has played all year? Nick did not need to do much in this match, but he also didn't do much. In Game 2, Nick dug 1 ball and gave up point scoring chances on 2/3rds of balls he received on serve. Again its not fair to judge him because it was clear from the beginning that Phil was winning this one with his net play, but lets not act like Nick was 2007 Emmanuel Rego.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 10:46:48 GMT -5
Brazil played really bad. Evandro just gives up as soon things are not going on his way. I did not realize Lucena is 37 already. I wonder how much longer they will stay together? I just checked and Dollar to Real ( Brazilian money) is $3.16. Which means the Brazilians won U$$75K but that will be 236K in Brazilian money for them. Same for Larrisa/Talita they made U$$50K but 157K in Brazilian money. another thing, for next season and on, FIVB should have the BEST 12 teams independent if more than 2 are from the same country. The men`s tournament did not have 3 of the best teams Alison/Bruno , the Latvians and the Dutch. Does the World Tour Finals happens every year? If so, at least on the World Championship year they should pay 60K for the winner of the Tour Final and pay 100K for the World Championship winners, as the WCH is more important. Both Lucena and Dalhausser are 37, but Nick turns 38 sometime later this year. Do you mean regardless of the maximum 2 teams per country, the teams should be based on their rankings? All 12 teams? No wildcards? I know for World Tour Finals, no ranking points are given but for World Champs, the winning team takes 1600 points. I guess it's the season finale, so it has the largest prize purse. As Ben Saxton wrote for the latest blog entry for the Major Series, this is their bonus at the end of the year. Yes, the TOP 12 teams and no wildcard.
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Post by swift on Aug 27, 2017 11:23:37 GMT -5
I agree. I thought Nick played better than I've seen him play all year. Never got into a rut siding out. Of course it helped that Brazil kept serving into the net and accidentally serving Phil too often. But Phil definitely dominated at the net and intimidated Brazil into so many hitting errors. Better than he has played all year? Nick did not need to do much in this match, but he also didn't do much. In Game 2, Nick dug 1 ball and gave up point scoring chances on 2/3rds of balls he received on serve. Again its not fair to judge him because it was clear from the beginning that Phil was winning this one with his net play, but lets not act like Nick was 2007 Emmanuel Rego. I agree. How many balls did Nick put to the sand? Only a few. But he didn't even have to sideout very well, because Brazil missed a ton of serves and served Phil way too often. And whenever Nick got blocked or dug, Phil was there to clean it up. I give Nick credit for digging and controling balls though. He's really good at digging the ball right to Phil. The ball control of both brazilian players on the other hand was terrible. Their transition sets were either way off the net or right into Phil's hands. overall it seemed to me that most teams played worse than they did in the Worldchampionships. A lot of sloppy plays. Maybe some players were tired or just not mentally ready after the Worlds. And I agree that the top 12 teams should be in this event. The wild cards and limit of 2 teams per country suck.
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Post by tinman2 on Aug 27, 2017 12:32:47 GMT -5
Nick had a first ball sideout on 6 out of 15 attempts (40%). USA was lucky that Brazil missed so many serves..both out and to Phil. Nick only received 6 serves the first set and 9 in the second set.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 27, 2017 12:39:32 GMT -5
Nick had a first ball sideout on 6 out of 15 attempts (40%). USA was lucky that Brazil missed so many serves..both out and to Phil. Nick only received 6 serves the first set and 9 in the second set. Its incredible that Nick received so few balls. Even when serves were going in, too often they went to Phil. That team really needs to be able to adjust their strategy, because when their serves did get in and to Nick, he was passing well, so its not as if they needed the Go For It serving to get chances. (Of course if Nick needed to, he may well have been able to step it up). Loyola/Evandro should be a blocking/sideout team first, with serving as a great second way to score. Now blocking is their second option and their lack of emphasis on it really shows. Also in contrast to Ludwig/Kira, who beat Pavan/HP largely by changing offensive strategies, with E/Andre its swing away or bust. That team has so much room to improve, but I feel like we have been saying that about Evandro for 5 years
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Post by rainmaker on Aug 27, 2017 12:49:05 GMT -5
Blocking = Phil = Thank You!! Amazed at the serving ability by the BRA, then lack of it in another tournie.. What a difference..
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Post by iowasurfer on Aug 27, 2017 16:15:45 GMT -5
Blocking = Phil = Thank You!! Amazed at the serving ability by the BRA, then lack of it in another tournie.. What a difference.. Better team won.TEAM it was.
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Post by donnyb on Aug 27, 2017 17:37:13 GMT -5
Would phil and little crab, or Rosie or Patterson etc won the whole tournament? Odds are no. Nick and phil make a really good team. Phil feeds off nicks fire. When Phil is blocking well and nick is digging well it has to be a mental game for there opponents. Other teams probably think there's nothing they can do to score or win. Nick digs really really good if anyone has noticed. Yes he's not the best side out player but everything else is great which I think wind games because teams get mentally down
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