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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 29, 2017 9:05:01 GMT -5
Here is what looks like the short list bubble right now for the last 4 spots. This assumes Ohio State and Texas A&M don't reach .500. No upset in the Conference USA, Big East, or MVC tournaments.
Miami-FL Iowa Missouri State/UNI Hawaii Florida State Missouri Maryland Alabama Butler North Carolina Georgia Dayton/VCU
Here is the list of 'in', but still could get on the bubble.
LSU Auburn NC State Arkansas Washington State
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 29, 2017 9:19:12 GMT -5
Looking ahead to the brackets. Some guesses based on drive/fly and how a potential Creighton, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas Subregionals could play out?
Arkansas is going to Kansas Illinois is going to Iowa State That leaves Iowa going to either Creighton or Kansas
Other teams in the mix for those subregionals - Wichita State (Kansas, Creighton, Nebraska) - it has been over 2 years since Wichita State has been to Kansas. Missouri State and Missouri is also a drive to Kansas, Creighton, Nebraska, and Iowa State - but neither is a guarantee to make the tournament. Northern Iowa has those same teams plus Minnesota and Wisconsin who will be looking for some teams to drive in. The Summit winner would go here unless it is Denver (who is probably the favorite).
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 29, 2017 9:31:58 GMT -5
And How will Penn State play out - is there enough drive-ins to Michigan State (Wisconsin) that could produce some competition in Happy Valley?
Louisville would most likely go to Michigan State, Notre Dame to Wisconsin, and Pittsburgh to Penn State. Marquette to either Michigan State or Wisconsin. Cleveland State could go to Michigan State. MAAC Winner (Bowling Green) to either Wisconsin or Michigan State. Atlantic 10: Dayton could go to either PSU or Michigan State. VCU could drive to Penn State.
Something like:
Wisconsin: Notre Dame, Marquette/Fly-In, MAAC Michigan State: Louisville, Marquette/Dayton/Fly-In, Horizon winner Penn State: Pittsburgh, 2 of many other drive-ins (VCU)
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Post by southie on Oct 29, 2017 9:43:03 GMT -5
With A&M not making it, I think Texas gets a 17-32 fly-in team this year. I guess LSU is just out of driving distance, but they have to be flown somewhere.
Other teams that will have to be flown out which come to mind include USC, Oregon State, Washington State, Baylor
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 29, 2017 9:44:39 GMT -5
Arkansas, LSU & NC State being 'in' at this point?
ugh, thanks RPI
Arkansas?? seriously - that has to be a misprint
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Post by southie on Oct 29, 2017 9:45:56 GMT -5
Hard to imagine no sub-regional in the southern California area. Also, San Diego needs to go somewhere if they aren't hosting.
I could see Colorado going to Nebraska as a drive-in (think it's within the driving limit).
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Post by FreeBall on Oct 29, 2017 9:49:48 GMT -5
Hard to imagine no sub-regional in the southern California area. Also, San Diego needs to go somewhere if they aren't hosting. I could see Colorado going to Nebraska as a drive-in (think it's within the driving limit). No. Too far.
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Post by southie on Oct 29, 2017 9:52:41 GMT -5
Hard to imagine no sub-regional in the southern California area. Also, San Diego needs to go somewhere if they aren't hosting. I could see Colorado going to Nebraska as a drive-in (think it's within the driving limit). No. Too far. Then, if CU also is too far from Kansas, then they will have to be flown out somewhere. Plenty of direct flights from Denver to just about every major US city so I could see the Buffs going out East.
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Post by jayj79 on Oct 29, 2017 9:53:35 GMT -5
Hard to imagine no sub-regional in the southern California area. Also, San Diego needs to go somewhere if they aren't hosting. I could see Colorado going to Nebraska as a drive-in (think it's within the driving limit). 501 miles between Colorado (Boulder) and Nebraska (Lincoln), according to the NCAA mileage table
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Post by southie on Oct 29, 2017 9:56:19 GMT -5
And How will Penn State play out - is there enough drive-ins to Michigan State (Wisconsin) that could produce some competition in Happy Valley? Louisville would most likely go to Michigan State, Notre Dame to Wisconsin, and Pittsburgh to Penn State. Marquette to either Michigan State or Wisconsin. Cleveland State could go to Michigan State. MAAC Winner (Bowling Green) to either Wisconsin or Michigan State. Atlantic 10: Dayton could go to either PSU or Michigan State. VCU could drive to Penn State. Something like: Wisconsin: Notre Dame, Marquette/Fly-In, MAAC Michigan State: Louisville, Marquette/Dayton/Fly-In, Horizon winner Penn State: Pittsburgh, 2 of many other drive-ins (VCU) I would have pegged Louisville going to Kentucky. But, with so many B1G teams in the tourney, perhaps it will be Purdue going to Kentucky and Louisville headed to B1G sub-regional.
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Post by tomclen on Oct 29, 2017 10:40:03 GMT -5
If the committee wants to create some early-round drama/excitement, they should ship Notre Dame to Seattle.
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Post by VT Five-0 on Oct 29, 2017 14:24:41 GMT -5
If Hawai‘i is on the bubble I believe they’ll be left out. As others have mentioned, their secondary criteria is not as good as some of the teams they’ll be competing with, plus it’s a lot easier to pull some of those teams into the parinings than Hawai‘i. I really hope I’m wrong about this.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 29, 2017 14:50:58 GMT -5
If Hawai‘i is on the bubble I believe they’ll be left out. As others have mentioned, their secondary criteria is not as good as some of the teams they’ll be competing with, plus it’s a lot easier to pull some of those teams into the parinings than Hawai‘i. I really hope I’m wrong about this. if Hawaii wins out, and gets left out, they'll likely be the highest rated Massey rated team not in the field when while the ACC '40s' teams continue to feast on each other to inflate each other's resumes
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Post by lionsfan on Oct 29, 2017 14:57:07 GMT -5
Maryland helped their cause today
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Oct 29, 2017 15:09:12 GMT -5
If Hawai‘i is on the bubble I believe they’ll be left out. As others have mentioned, their secondary criteria is not as good as some of the teams they’ll be competing with, plus it’s a lot easier to pull some of those teams into the parinings than Hawai‘i. I really hope I’m wrong about this. if Hawaii wins out, and gets left out, they'll likely be the highest rated Massey rated team not in the field when while the ACC '40s' teams continue to feast on each other to inflate each other's resumes You've made this comment like 10 times in the last day. Hawaii has 1 win over a tournament team, in 5 at home. I can't seem to find updated Massey ratings but did any team other than Cal Poly in the Big West beat a contender for an at-large bid? When your conference collectively has two wins over tournament teams you can't be expecting to get many at-large bids.
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