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Post by alohavball on Nov 2, 2018 17:47:09 GMT -5
Not sure if there are a lot of Chinese Volleyball League fans, but I thought I’d create this thread for those that are interested since there are 5 American players playing in China this season. Main Website: cva-web.dataproject.com/CompetitionHome.aspx?ID=4Foreigners: Shanghai- Kelly Murphy (USA), Anastasia Guerra (ITA) Beijing- Tetori Dixon (USA), Madison Kingdon (USA), Rachel Rourke (AUS) Guangdong- Tandara Caixeta (BRA), Dobriana Rabadzieva (BUL) Henan- Kadie Rolfzen (USA), Katherine Bell (USA) Tianjin- Alexandra Crncevic (SRB) Teams: players who participated with the NT at one or more of these events. (Volleyball Nations League, Asian Games, Montreux Volley Masters, Asian Volleyball Cup, and or World Championships) Tianjin: Li Yingying (OH), Yao Di (S), Chen Xintong (S), Wang Yuanyuan (MB), Meng Zixuan (L) Shanghai: Zhang Yichan (OH) Jiangsu: Zhang Changning (OH), Gong Xiangyu (OPP), Wu Han (OPP), Diao Linyu (S) Liaoning: Duan Fang (OH), Wang Meiyi (OPP), Ding Xia (S), Sun Haiping (S), Yan Ni (MB), Hu Mingyuan (MB), Gong Meizi (L) Bayi: Liu Yanhan (OH), Yuan Xinyue (MB), Gao Yi (MB) Zhejiang: Yang Zhou (MB) Beijing: Liu Xiaotong (OH), Ren Kaiyi (OH), Zeng Chunlei (OPP), Chen Xintong (S) Guangdong: Chen Peiyan (OPP) Shandong: Che Wenhan (OH), Yang Hanyu (MB), Wang Mengjie (L) Fujian: Zheng Yixin (MB), Lin Li (L) First Round Begins November 7th: Schedule: cva-web.dataproject.com/CompetitionMatches.aspx?ID=4&PID=4 Group A: Bayi, Sichuan, Tianjin, Shandong, Guangdong, Henan, Liaoning Group B: Shanghai, Yunnan, Beijing, Jiangsu, Hebei, Zhejiang, Fujian Notes: Li Yingying was named last years MVP. Bayi players are members of China’s People’s Liberation Army. Kim Yeon Koung was part of Shanghai’s team last season. Rio Olympic opposite Yang Fangxu is not listed on any teams roster. Zhejiang will host the FIVB Women’s Club World Championship that begins on December 4th. The youngest player is 14 years old, born in 2004. Last Years Results (2017-2018): 1st: Tianjin 2nd: Shanghai 3rd: Jiangsu 4th: Liaoning
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Post by ToddyJ on Nov 5, 2018 17:05:34 GMT -5
Glad Kelly Murphy is playing overseas again!
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Post by toomuchvb on Nov 6, 2018 9:22:42 GMT -5
Too bad Karsta Lowe isn't. Another thread said no mention of Lowe on a pro team this season.
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Post by Steve vb on Nov 6, 2018 9:52:05 GMT -5
Season begins tomorrow! Three of the top four teams from last year look strong to return to the semis: Tianjin, Jiangsu, and Liaoning. For Shanghai and Beijing, it's hard to predict how well the new foreign players will do. However, I guess that Shanghai, Bayi, or Beijing will fill the other spot. I was a bit surprised that Kadie Rolfzen signed on with a team that probably won't qualify for the Super League in January.
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Post by StanfordFan on Nov 6, 2018 22:31:03 GMT -5
Isn’t that where Megan Easy and Kelly Murphy signed before? And where Zhu Ting is from? Never been a good team, surprising with those first two. Although I think Megan was injured. Season begins tomorrow! Three of the top four teams from last year look strong to return to the semis: Tianjin, Jiangsu, and Liaoning. For Shanghai and Beijing, it's hard to predict how well the new foreign players will do. However, I guess that Shanghai, Bayi, or Beijing will fill the other spot. I was a bit surprised that Kadie Rolfzen signed on with a team that probably won't qualify for the Super League in January.
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Post by alohavball on Nov 7, 2018 3:10:16 GMT -5
Isn’t that where Megan Easy and Kelly Murphy signed before? And where Zhu Ting is from? Never been a good team, surprising with those first two. Although I think Megan was injured. Season begins tomorrow! Three of the top four teams from last year look strong to return to the semis: Tianjin, Jiangsu, and Liaoning. For Shanghai and Beijing, it's hard to predict how well the new foreign players will do. However, I guess that Shanghai, Bayi, or Beijing will fill the other spot. I was a bit surprised that Kadie Rolfzen signed on with a team that probably won't qualify for the Super League in January. Yes, Easy and Murphy played for Henan together which is the same team Zhu is originally from. The team is not known for developing volleyball talent so when Zhu was first discovered she was that one in a million player. Zhu comes from a rural village in Henan. Her parents were farmers and the house they lived in was made of mud and wood. She has four silbings, all sisters and she is the middle child. Others in the town looked down on their family because they had no son. Her middle school teacher told her parents to put her in a sports school after seeing her athleticism at a young age. Thus she was enrolled in Henan Province School in 2008. She encountered painful growing pains during her first years of training and even wanted to quit at some point, but she persevered and later lead the Henan team to silver at the 2011 U18 competition. Then she won MVP of the U20 tournament in 2013 and finally met the one and only, Lang Ping. Full Article: www.globaltimes.cn/content/1007075.shtml
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Post by Millennium on Nov 7, 2018 4:05:28 GMT -5
Too bad Karsta Lowe isn't. Another thread said no mention of Lowe on a pro team this season.
Seriously? She shouldn't make any more national team rosters if she doesn't IMO.
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Post by Millennium on Nov 7, 2018 4:07:19 GMT -5
Isn’t that where Megan Easy and Kelly Murphy signed before? And where Zhu Ting is from? Never been a good team, surprising with those first two. Although I think Megan was injured. Yes, Easy and Murphy played for Henan together which is the same team Zhu is originally from. The team is not known for developing volleyball talent so when Zhu was first discovered she was that one in a million player. Zhu comes from a rural village in Henan. Her parents were farmers and the house they lived in was made of mud and wood. She has four silbings, all sisters and she is the middle child. Others in the town looked down on their family because they had no son. Her middle school teacher told her parents to put her in a sports school after seeing her athleticism at a young age. Thus she was enrolled in Henan Province School in 2008. She encountered painful growing pains during her first years of training and even wanted to quit at some point, but she persevered and later lead the Henan team to silver at the 2011 U18 competition. Then she won MVP of the U20 tournament in 2013 and finally met the one and only, Lang Ping. Full Article: www.globaltimes.cn/content/1007075.shtml
That's a lot of siblings.
What do the current laws in China say with regard to having kids these days?
Do they still have family limits or do they make exceptions for farmers?
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Post by agean09 on Nov 8, 2018 7:00:48 GMT -5
Anyone have links to watch these matches? It's so hard to find Chinese streams...
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Post by Steve vb on Nov 8, 2018 21:54:33 GMT -5
Anyone have links to watch these matches? It's so hard to find Chinese streams... Here's a link to an interesting match, albeit somewhat sloppy you might expect from a season opening match. It involves two of the top teams and was played two days ago: Tianjin vs Liaoning (Li Yingying vs. Deng Xia): (Yan Ni didn't play because she is recovering from some nagging injuries. When I am back in China later this winter, I will also be uploading some matches on a Youtube channel.
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Post by Steve vb on Nov 8, 2018 21:58:03 GMT -5
Yes, Easy and Murphy played for Henan together which is the same team Zhu is originally from. The team is not known for developing volleyball talent so when Zhu was first discovered she was that one in a million player. Zhu comes from a rural village in Henan. Her parents were farmers and the house they lived in was made of mud and wood. She has four silbings, all sisters and she is the middle child. Others in the town looked down on their family because they had no son. Her middle school teacher told her parents to put her in a sports school after seeing her athleticism at a young age. Thus she was enrolled in Henan Province School in 2008. She encountered painful growing pains during her first years of training and even wanted to quit at some point, but she persevered and later lead the Henan team to silver at the 2011 U18 competition. Then she won MVP of the U20 tournament in 2013 and finally met the one and only, Lang Ping. Full Article: www.globaltimes.cn/content/1007075.shtml
That's a lot of siblings.
What do the current laws in China say with regard to having kids these days?
Do they still have family limits or do they make exceptions for farmers?
Currently, the limit is two children. However, the policy isn't being enforced very strictly these days.
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Post by ironhammer on Nov 9, 2018 5:47:07 GMT -5
Yes, Easy and Murphy played for Henan together which is the same team Zhu is originally from. The team is not known for developing volleyball talent so when Zhu was first discovered she was that one in a million player. Zhu comes from a rural village in Henan. Her parents were farmers and the house they lived in was made of mud and wood. She has four silbings, all sisters and she is the middle child. Others in the town looked down on their family because they had no son. Her middle school teacher told her parents to put her in a sports school after seeing her athleticism at a young age. Thus she was enrolled in Henan Province School in 2008. She encountered painful growing pains during her first years of training and even wanted to quit at some point, but she persevered and later lead the Henan team to silver at the 2011 U18 competition. Then she won MVP of the U20 tournament in 2013 and finally met the one and only, Lang Ping. Full Article: www.globaltimes.cn/content/1007075.shtml
That's a lot of siblings.
What do the current laws in China say with regard to having kids these days?
Do they still have family limits or do they make exceptions for farmers?
If you are referring to the one child policy, that has been abolished recently in China. Before, the prevailing mentality was that given China was a poor and developing country, with a huge and still growing population, more people will just mean more mouths to feed and a burden on the country, hence the one child policy. But now things have changed. The Chinese saw not only their national birthrate drop precipitously, but their population is also starting to age rapidly (like the case with Japan, although China is not reaching the serious ageing levels of Japan yet). This is going to have an adverse impact on the economy, as fewer and fewer people of working age is going to support an ever larger elderly and non-productive population. Not to mention growing healthcare cost to deal with diseases that are more prevalent with old age, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, respiratory diseases and those neurdegenerative disorders like Alzheimer, Parkinson and so on. So now China has switched to a 2 child policy (permitting each family to have 2 child). And even that policy may be be abolished (no child restriction) as China finds way to improve it's demographics. Ah, but you will say, Zhu and her siblings were born when the one child policy was in force. So how can that be? Well, there are sometimes ways to get around the one child policy, even in an authoritarian regime like China. Yes, there are horror stories about forced abortions and even murder of children (usually female, rural China is more traditional and have a preference for boys), but the enforcement of the one child policy varies depending on the locale. Some are strict, others less so. In rural China where Zhu family was, enforcement of the one child policy may not be as strict. You can be permitted to have an extra child if you paid a fine, for example. Although with an extra child, the government will not subsidize education and the parents will have to pay it out of their own pockets in many cases. Btw, Zhu is not the only volleyball player in China to have siblings. Their ex-NT player Zhao RuiRui, has a sister.
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Post by Millennium on Nov 9, 2018 7:23:09 GMT -5
That's a lot of siblings.
What do the current laws in China say with regard to having kids these days?
Do they still have family limits or do they make exceptions for farmers?
If you are referring to the one child policy, that has been abolished recently in China. Before, the prevailing mentality was that given China was a poor and developing country, with a huge and still growing population, more people will just mean more mouths to feed and a burden on the country, hence the one child policy. But now things have changed. The Chinese saw not only their national birthrate drop precipitously, but their population is also starting to age rapidly (like the case with Japan, although China is not reaching the serious ageing levels of Japan yet). This is going to have an adverse impact on the economy, as fewer and fewer people of working age is going to support an ever larger elderly and non-productive population. Not to mention growing healthcare cost to deal with diseases that are more prevalent with old age, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, respiratory diseases and those neurdegenerative disorders like Alzheimer, Parkinson and so on. So now China has switched to a 2 child policy (permitting each family to have 2 child). And even that policy may be be abolished (no child restriction) as China finds way to improve it's demographics. Ah, but you will say, Zhu and her siblings were born when the one child policy was in force. So how can that be? Well, there are sometimes ways to get around the one child policy, even in an authoritarian regime like China. Yes, there are horror stories about forced abortions and even murder of children (usually female, rural China is more traditional and have a preference for boys), but the enforcement of the one child policy varies depending on the locale. Some are strict, others less so. In rural China where Zhu family was, enforcement of the one child policy may not be as strict. You can be permitted to have an extra child if you paid a fine, for example. Although with an extra child, the government will not subsidize education and the parents will have to pay it out of their own pockets in many cases. Btw, Zhu is not the only volleyball player in China to have siblings. Their ex-NT player Zhao RuiRui, has a sister.
Interesting. The article says that Zhu has 4 siblings, all sisters. I found that to be an inordinate amount considering China's former limited child policies.
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Post by ironhammer on Nov 9, 2018 7:38:25 GMT -5
If you are referring to the one child policy, that has been abolished recently in China. Before, the prevailing mentality was that given China was a poor and developing country, with a huge and still growing population, more people will just mean more mouths to feed and a burden on the country, hence the one child policy. But now things have changed. The Chinese saw not only their national birthrate drop precipitously, but their population is also starting to age rapidly (like the case with Japan, although China is not reaching the serious ageing levels of Japan yet). This is going to have an adverse impact on the economy, as fewer and fewer people of working age is going to support an ever larger elderly and non-productive population. Not to mention growing healthcare cost to deal with diseases that are more prevalent with old age, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, respiratory diseases and those neurdegenerative disorders like Alzheimer, Parkinson and so on. So now China has switched to a 2 child policy (permitting each family to have 2 child). And even that policy may be be abolished (no child restriction) as China finds way to improve it's demographics. Ah, but you will say, Zhu and her siblings were born when the one child policy was in force. So how can that be? Well, there are sometimes ways to get around the one child policy, even in an authoritarian regime like China. Yes, there are horror stories about forced abortions and even murder of children (usually female, rural China is more traditional and have a preference for boys), but the enforcement of the one child policy varies depending on the locale. Some are strict, others less so. In rural China where Zhu family was, enforcement of the one child policy may not be as strict. You can be permitted to have an extra child if you paid a fine, for example. Although with an extra child, the government will not subsidize education and the parents will have to pay it out of their own pockets in many cases. Btw, Zhu is not the only volleyball player in China to have siblings. Their ex-NT player Zhao RuiRui, has a sister.
Interesting. The article says that Zhu has 4 siblings, all sisters. I found that to be an inordinate amount considering China's former limited child policies.
Not if the local enforcement agency looked the other way or certain authority figures are paid. Now I'm not saying for a fact that Zhu's parents bribed the authorities to have more siblings (probably hoping for a boy given the rural background), but that is a possibility that can't be ruled out. Or for other reasons (real need to have extra hands working on the farm), Zhu parents were pleading with the authorities, which granted them an exception. The most simple reason may well be that Zhu's parents were willing to pay the fine for each extra child.
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Post by Steve vb on Nov 11, 2018 23:43:10 GMT -5
Here's a good match from today with good video quality. Bayi vs Tianjin: Yuan Xinyue (the 6'7" MB for China) vs. Li Yingying. Li Yingying put on a show in the first set.
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