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Post by azvb on May 29, 2019 5:53:21 GMT -5
Did Mary Lake Play? I’m in Austria and don’t have time to look through the thread.
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Post by Millennium on May 29, 2019 6:28:05 GMT -5
Did Mary Lake Play? I’m in Austria and don’t have time to look through the thread. No, not against Serbia. Only Drews, Rettke, Washington, Hancock, Courtney, Kingdon, and Wilhite played. There were no substitutions yesterday.
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Post by SportyBucky on May 29, 2019 7:37:25 GMT -5
Hold the presses...Wilhite can pass? Were you watching the match or just listening to it in Serbian? She started out OK, but got gradually worse. Don't judge her based only on today's performance. She's generally better than both Kingdon and Lee. Oh, I have watched her before and she's a target in serve receive. She's in there for her low-risk hitting, and her block.
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Post by SportyBucky on May 29, 2019 7:38:29 GMT -5
I thought Parsons’ attacking and blocking were 👌 Serve receive needs some work though. Yeah, her attacking was brilliant. 5 kills on 22 attacks, with 1 error and once got blocked. (According to USAV) @tangotango Article's written based on official stats, which is provided by FIVB. But USAV stats(unofficial) are what Karch sees. Probably FIVB got stats from Serbians, and they don't put so much attention on USA side of the game. Yikes...worse than I thought. Those are not good OH numbers when you're playing that Serbia team.
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Post by Millennium on May 29, 2019 8:49:20 GMT -5
She started out OK, but got gradually worse. Don't judge her based only on today's performance. She's generally better than both Kingdon and Lee. Oh, I have watched her before and she's a target in serve receive. She's in there for her low-risk hitting, and her block. To keep this conversation in context, I said Wilhite can pass well enough up through set 2. In sets 3 and 4 I stated that her passing was breaking down. She passed well enough in the first week, and certainly better than Kingdon. Compared to the other 2 OH we have on this VNL week 2 roster, I do believe she is the better passer. Her serve is probably her strongest attribute, as evidenced by her role as a serving sub in the Japan match and in previous tournaments. She's not the strongest hitter, but she is a smart one. Regarding our current trio of OH, I think Wilhite brings more to the table overall than Kingdon. Lee is the most physical hitter of the three, but she's a liability on serve receive.
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Post by volleyguy on May 29, 2019 9:08:02 GMT -5
Oh, I have watched her before and she's a target in serve receive. She's in there for her low-risk hitting, and her block. To keep this conversation in context, I said Wilhite can pass well enough up through set 2. In sets 3 and 4 I stated that her passing was breaking down. She passed well enough in the first week, and certainly better than Kingdon. Compared to the other 2 OH we have on this VNL week 2 roster, I do believe she is the better passer. Her serve is probably her strongest attribute, as evidenced by her role as a serving sub in the Japan match and in previous tournaments. She's not the strongest hitter, but she is a smart one. Regarding our current trio of OH, I think Wilhite brings more to the table overall than Kingdon. Lee is the most physical hitter of the three, but she's a liability on serve receive. Wilhite is a smart hitter? No, not particularly. Cautious, restrained, or maybe disciplined, are better descriptors.
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Post by SportyBucky on May 29, 2019 9:24:48 GMT -5
Oh, I have watched her before and she's a target in serve receive. She's in there for her low-risk hitting, and her block. To keep this conversation in context, I said Wilhite can pass well enough up through set 2. In sets 3 and 4 I stated that her passing was breaking down. She passed well enough in the first week, and certainly better than Kingdon. Compared to the other 2 OH we have on this VNL week 2 roster, I do believe she is the better passer. Her serve is probably her strongest attribute, as evidenced by her role as a serving sub in the Japan match and in previous tournaments. She's not the strongest hitter, but she is a smart one. Regarding our current trio of OH, I think Wilhite brings more to the table overall than Kingdon. Lee is the most physical hitter of the three, but she's a liability on serve receive. "Her servce is probably her strongest attribute, as evidenced by her role as a serving sub.." Well, I guess one can evaluate and determine a player's strongest attribute by taking a look at how Karch uses them, but I prefer to take a look beyond that one data point, thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 10:16:29 GMT -5
To keep this conversation in context, I said Wilhite can pass well enough up through set 2. In sets 3 and 4 I stated that her passing was breaking down. She passed well enough in the first week, and certainly better than Kingdon. Compared to the other 2 OH we have on this VNL week 2 roster, I do believe she is the better passer. Her serve is probably her strongest attribute, as evidenced by her role as a serving sub in the Japan match and in previous tournaments. She's not the strongest hitter, but she is a smart one. Regarding our current trio of OH, I think Wilhite brings more to the table overall than Kingdon. Lee is the most physical hitter of the three, but she's a liability on serve receive. "Her servce is probably her strongest attribute, as evidenced by her role as a serving sub.." Well, I guess one can evaluate and determine a player's strongest attribute by taking a look at how Karch uses them, but I prefer to take a look beyond that one data point, thanks. I don't think anyone suggested you should use that as the only data point in your evaluation. Your constant %*$#ting on Sarah is annoying. I'm not saying you're wrong, but why is every other post in every single match thread a post by SportyBucky talking about how %*$#ty Wilhite (or Tapp) is?
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Post by SportyBucky on May 29, 2019 10:31:19 GMT -5
"Her servce is probably her strongest attribute, as evidenced by her role as a serving sub.." Well, I guess one can evaluate and determine a player's strongest attribute by taking a look at how Karch uses them, but I prefer to take a look beyond that one data point, thanks. I don't think anyone suggested you should use that as the only data point in your evaluation. Your constant %*$#ting on Sarah is annoying. I'm not saying you're wrong, but why is every other post in every single match thread a post by SportyBucky talking about how %*$#ty Wilhite (or Tapp) is? I've redrafted this multiple times to be crystal clear. Glad you support your former players, but they're not NT good. Sorry. I've actually not ragged on them constantly, but bless your heart for saying so. Glad you're paying really close attention to this lesson, so continue to listen up. To play OH internally, you have to pass. Wilhite, as of now, cannot. To play MB you have to be a superior blocker, or be a good blocker and be unstoppable offensively. Tapp is not either. As balance, I have commented positively on Thompson, Rettke, Poulter, Ogbagu, & Washington. I have also said Kingdon is not the second coming of Logan Tom. I'm not just picking on the pretty, ineffective girls who have Karch's heart.
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Post by n00b on May 29, 2019 11:12:05 GMT -5
u guys said to trust USAV stats....on the article they say Drews scored 22 points, but on the stats it says 17 kills and 3 blocks. LOL Right. The article was written using the stats provided by FIVB. Then they later added the link to USAV's DataVolley stats report.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 13:23:19 GMT -5
I don't think anyone suggested you should use that as the only data point in your evaluation. Your constant %*$#ting on Sarah is annoying. I'm not saying you're wrong, but why is every other post in every single match thread a post by SportyBucky talking about how %*$#ty Wilhite (or Tapp) is? I've redrafted this multiple times to be crystal clear. Glad you support your former players, but they're not NT good. Sorry. I've actually not ragged on them constantly, but bless your heart for saying so. Glad you're paying really close attention to this lesson, so continue to listen up. To play OH internally, you have to pass. Wilhite, as of now, cannot. To play MB you have to be a superior blocker, or be a good blocker and be unstoppable offensively. Tapp is not either. As balance, I have commented positively on Thompson, Rettke, Poulter, Ogbagu, & Washington. I have also said Kingdon is not the second coming of Logan Tom. I'm not just picking on the pretty, ineffective girls who have Karch's heart. I actually don't disagree with you regarding the future of Wilhite or Tapp (though I think Tapp is much better than you seem to think.) However, you have a very clear vendetta against former Gophers and let's not try to pretend you don't. It's VERY evident in your posts, no matter how innocent you're trying to sound now. My argument was solely that you're constantly ragging on Wilhite and Tapp, and yes you are - you even ragged on Tapp after she had a good performance here. You might not realize it, or say that you don't, but that doesn't mean I'm not reading it in literally every match thread, nonstop.
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Post by SportyBucky on May 29, 2019 13:30:32 GMT -5
I've redrafted this multiple times to be crystal clear. Glad you support your former players, but they're not NT good. Sorry. I've actually not ragged on them constantly, but bless your heart for saying so. Glad you're paying really close attention to this lesson, so continue to listen up. To play OH internally, you have to pass. Wilhite, as of now, cannot. To play MB you have to be a superior blocker, or be a good blocker and be unstoppable offensively. Tapp is not either. As balance, I have commented positively on Thompson, Rettke, Poulter, Ogbagu, & Washington. I have also said Kingdon is not the second coming of Logan Tom. I'm not just picking on the pretty, ineffective girls who have Karch's heart. I actually don't disagree with you regarding the future of Wilhite or Tapp (though I think Tapp is much better than you seem to think.) However, you have a very clear vendetta against former Gophers and let's not try to pretend you don't. It's VERY evident in your posts, no matter how innocent you're trying to sound now. My argument was solely that you're constantly ragging on Wilhite and Tapp, and yes you are - you even ragged on Tapp after she had a good performance here. You might not realize it, or say that you don't, but that doesn't mean I'm not reading it in literally every match thread, nonstop. Wow. Drama much?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 13:33:32 GMT -5
I actually don't disagree with you regarding the future of Wilhite or Tapp (though I think Tapp is much better than you seem to think.) However, you have a very clear vendetta against former Gophers and let's not try to pretend you don't. It's VERY evident in your posts, no matter how innocent you're trying to sound now. My argument was solely that you're constantly ragging on Wilhite and Tapp, and yes you are - you even ragged on Tapp after she had a good performance here. You might not realize it, or say that you don't, but that doesn't mean I'm not reading it in literally every match thread, nonstop. Wow. Drama much? If calling you out for your 30 posts about how much Sarah Wilhite sucks makes me dramatic, then yes.
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