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Post by v0lleym0m on Nov 11, 2019 15:40:31 GMT -5
I am just curious on this. every year I go to tryouts at different clubs and who they put on teams usually doesn't make any sense. I always have a fun team to play on but like this year I went to a club and tried out and I was easily the best DS but wasn't invited. I half expected it because it has been this way every year, but I am wondering if the club already knows who they want on a team why do they waste my time and my mom and dads money for me to tryout? Does this happen everywhere? Its very weird. So what is the outcome for your club home this season? Hoping you found a good fit. It’s tough mentally as a player and parent when you wander through the desert seeking a place that appreciates what youve put into your game and the money your parents forked out while at the same time encouraging your continued growth. I do sometimes think a lot of clubs would like ready made athletes in the gym. There are very few that develop athletes, which takes a lot of time energy frustration and money to do but that’s how it seems to be done best.
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Post by jammaster on Nov 11, 2019 17:56:59 GMT -5
I do sometimes think a lot of clubs would like ready made athletes in the gym. There are very few that develop athletes, which takes a lot of time energy frustration and money to do but that’s how it seems to be done best.
From what I have seen each club has a little different ability to develop the kids (some advance them faster, some slower) and clubs have some differences in what they are coaching the kids towards. In my area we have a club that has strong ability to develop kids and they are pointing towards optimizing for 6 person indoor at nationals and to support readiness for HS and recruiting. They teach a fast offense with "go", "hut", slides, backrow quicks, etc. Pressure to get on/stay on a 1s team can be stressful for players and parents.
We have another club that is OK at developing players, but doesn't typically target nationals and most kids aren't going to be recruited. They play a slower game than the first club and it's fine to get kids ready for local HS. Lower stress, less time/money commitment and arguably more fun.
We also have a club that is great for prepping for beach, but their indoor program teaches techniques that aren't optimal for HS and recruiting (example, teaching my 11 YO to hit up since she isn't tall enough yet to hit down).
Yes, they all love when a ready made athlete comes in, but they all also slobber over that 6' 3" kid who they have all seen struggle to develop for 3 seasons even with strong coaching...all the coaches/directors are sure they can somehow teach the baby giraffe how to stalk like a tiger.
Which is the right one for my kid? That's the million dollar question that has me spending too much time on vollleytalk trying to understand the game.
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Post by bayarea on Nov 11, 2019 18:27:58 GMT -5
They just promoted their 1s team from the year before. On the 2nd night of tryouts, they pulled the previous year's team to another court and never looked back. ..... She was invited to participate in some drop in practices and she was able to start a relationship with the club. If we had made an investment in the other club before 16's tryouts, then I think it may have made a difference. So I guess the moral of the story is: if you want to have a chance to make the top team, the club needs to know you before tryouts. There just isn't enough time for the coaches to evaluate the girls during the 2 hour session and callback. Since the commitment is binding, they need to get it right and they will go with who they know. This is absolutely the right way to look at it. If you want to put your kid on a 1s team at a top club, unless your kid is an uber stud, you don't just show up for tryouts and expect to get the spot. You need more than a couple of hours playing with the club to earn the respect of the players and coaches. 2 hours of chaos is not enough for them to understand who your kid is. Most clubs have inexpensive pre tryout clinics. That is where you earn your spot if you are an outsider...not the tryout.
Show up to every one. Be there early. Focus and be coachable. Get along with other potential teammates. Use every rep.
This is 100% my experience with top clubs. Unfortunately for many parents, these clubs rake in a lot of money from the unexperienced club parent, who plunks down their registration money at the tryout, and doesn't understand that this^^ is the way it works...that many top team rosters are chosen a month or more in advance of the actual "tryout" after private 'practices' with the coach. The coaches make an offer and the player gives a 'verbal commitment' prior to the posted tryout. Possibly there will be one or several spots still available on the team, but for a certain position player, there may not be any room. It is disheartening for the new kid who practices on their own, wants to get picked for a new team, and shows up very hopeful at a tryout, only to be completely ignored until the tryout is over. I have heard club coaches say that, for the most part, it's easier to pick kids for the younger teams and then just keep promoting them and coaching them through the various age groups. Not much room for outsiders unless they are pretty amazing, or are ok with being a bench player. Less competitive clubs seems to genuinely hold open tryouts and pick the best players who are there. Of course, some of those better players may be using that tryout as a 'backup', so the team that is chosen there, may not ultimately be the team that gets fielded.
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