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Post by trojansc on Nov 17, 2024 18:26:41 GMT -5
For teams #31-#60 in RPI (currently, real-time)
-10 teams have NO top 50 wins
-5 have only ONE top 50 wins
Only 10 teams have a Top 25 win (Tennessee is one of those 10).
Like, we've been meme'ing the SEC because no matter what, those teams are getting in. Like, at least most of them. There's just not a way around it at this point.
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 17, 2024 18:45:58 GMT -5
Pablo has Creighton as an 88% favorite to beat Penn State. Even playing at Rec Hall - they are an 84% favorite. Pablo doesn't have them slightly better than Penn State - they have them overwhelming better. Now - not having a dog in this fight- I would certainly love to see those two teams play, because this looks like a huge outlier. Evollve has Creighton better than Penn State, but not to the degree that Pablo does. Penn St loses a set to #127 RPI Maryland today, the TENTH match that the Lions have dropped at least one set to teams < #25 RPI. Meanwhile, Creighton scores another sweep and has lost NO sets all season to teams < #25 RPI. There is no way that Creighton should not be hosting over Penn St. No one cares if you drop a set to a lesser team as long as you win. Also, no one cares if you sweep the No. 209 team in the country, lol. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 17, 2024 18:54:33 GMT -5
Wait, LSU swept Arkansas? The SEC does not stop.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 17, 2024 18:55:12 GMT -5
For teams #31-#60 in RPI (currently, real-time) -10 teams have NO top 50 wins -5 have only ONE top 50 wins Only 10 teams have a Top 25 win (Tennessee is one of those 10). Like, we've been meme'ing the SEC because no matter what, those teams are getting in. Like, at least most of them. There's just not a way around it at this point. It's hard to argue for any other team to get in at this point. A really bad bubble this year. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 17, 2024 18:59:23 GMT -5
It's hard to argue for any other team to get in at this point. A really bad bubble this year. What do you think of South Florida? I think they can make a case (I need to look at the AAC/Bracket/RPI implications). Hawaii is really lucky they're in a OK spot in terms of RPI.. they have 3-4 sub-100 losses! |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Nov 17, 2024 19:01:35 GMT -5
It's hard to argue for any other team to get in at this point. A really bad bubble this year. What do you think of South Florida? I think they can make a case (I need to look at the AAC/Bracket/RPI implications). Hawaii is really lucky they're in a OK spot in terms of RPI.. they have 3-4 sub-100 losses! I don’t know how it’s happening. Is our non conference doing that well? I’m assuming SD and pepp getting into the top 50 Is really really helping us |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 17, 2024 19:01:58 GMT -5
It's hard to argue for any other team to get in at this point. A really bad bubble this year. What do you think of South Florida? I think they can make a case (I need to look at the AAC/Bracket/RPI implications). Hawaii is really lucky they're in a OK spot in terms of RPI.. they have 3-4 sub-100 losses! Their losses are ghastly. I don't see how they're in contention as an at-large (i.e., taking another loss). Also the loss to Georgia means they probably don't have common opponents over all those SEC teams despite the Florida win. |
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Post by blue10 on Nov 17, 2024 19:04:54 GMT -5
Wait, LSU swept Arkansas? The SEC does not stop. how many teams make it if you had to guess |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 17, 2024 19:06:33 GMT -5
Wait, LSU swept Arkansas? The SEC does not stop. how many teams make it if you had to guess 10. Unlikely to be less than 9. 11 is possible. Would be surprised if only 8, shocked if 12. |
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Post by blue10 on Nov 17, 2024 19:15:01 GMT -5
how many teams make it if you had to guess 10. Unlikely to be less than 9. 11 is possible. Would be surprised if only 8, shocked if 12. lmfao slay |
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Post by kaelca on Nov 17, 2024 19:39:46 GMT -5
Big 12 - Arizona have to win out to make it? Undefeated non con but bad SOS and rough start to conference play but could finish 20-9, 9-9…
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Post by sluggermatt15 on Nov 17, 2024 19:56:41 GMT -5
So they get in based on FOUR Top 75 wins? Lol. That is a poor reason. They have one win against the top seven teams in the SEC standings - Texas A&M - a 1-4 record combined.... and they will probably lose to Texas in the regular season finale. Also, 2-4 against ranked opponents. If we are talking NCAA basketball, that is a bubble case at best. I don't mean this sarcastically - but like, do you know how the NCAA selects team? More importantly than those four top 75 wins (which, top 75 isn't really relevant, I used those 4 since they are the 4 that have an opportunity to be significant wins, I think UCLA won't be one) is their RPI. That matters, like a lot. As far as SEC standings - do you remember the year everyone was b*tching about South Carolina for being so low in the SEC standings but they got in (partially because of their non-conference performance). Who do you want in the tournament over Tennessee right now? Like, Auburn is arguably worse and they're still in. South Dakota State? UTEP (or Western Kentucky)? Pepperdine? Georgia Southern? Drake? St. John's? Arkansas State? Arizona has a case - but they are being predicted out probably due to RPI issues. I don't think you realize how ugly some of the bubble team profiles are (this is every year). And with an RPI like that - Tennessee is just not getting left out of the tournament (at least how it stands now). 2-4 against ranked opponents is actually a REALLY good thing for bubble teams usually.. Good points. I am going to guess that RPI is heavily weighted for NCAA tournament selection. So, based on the information you stated, it makes sense that Tennessee, Auburn, etc. are tournament bound. Of the non-power teams you mentioned, like WKU, Pepperdine, etc. WKU is not a bad team. They just swept through Conference USA undefeated. I know they lost to Tennessee very early in the season. I feel if they played again, WKU might win. Pepperdine is not also a bad team. I've seen them in person this year. I think they would put up a good fight against Tennessee, Auburn, etc. even though they play in a smaller conference. But I appreciate your clarification. I am no volleyball expert... just the opposite actually... starting to learn how it all works. The whole tournament selection is something I am unfamiliar with. |
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Nov 17, 2024 20:40:50 GMT -5
So they get in based on FOUR Top 75 wins? Lol. That is a poor reason. They have one win against the top seven teams in the SEC standings - Texas A&M - a 1-4 record combined.... and they will probably lose to Texas in the regular season finale. Also, 2-4 against ranked opponents. If we are talking NCAA basketball, that is a bubble case at best. Like, Auburn is arguably worse and they're still in. [/span][/quote] Genuinely, how is Auburn still in consideration? They’ve lost their last 8 in a row, and could very well lose their last 3 (Florida, @oklahoma, @missouri) with how they’re playing. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 17, 2024 22:10:32 GMT -5
Like, Auburn is arguably worse and they're still in. Genuinely, how is Auburn still in consideration? They’ve lost their last 8 in a row, and could very well lose their last 3 (Florida, @oklahoma, @missouri) with how they’re playing So if Auburn loses all three - they are out. If they win just one, they could have: -1 or 2 Top 25 wins -3 or 4 Top 50 wins -An RPI around or better than the cut line (depending on GA Southern and who their one win comes against) -One significant loss below 100 in RPI (Alabama) but most teams have one, and many have multiple! Considering they have a good non-conference win or two in there (FSU and GA Southern), they almost check all of the boxes of primary criteria. However, they WILL lose H2H with like EVERY single SEC bubble team (unless they beat Oklahoma) |
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Nov 17, 2024 22:20:09 GMT -5
Genuinely, how is Auburn still in consideration? They’ve lost their last 8 in a row, and could very well lose their last 3 (Florida, @oklahoma, @missouri) with how they’re playing So if Auburn loses all three - they are out. If they win just one, they could have: -1 or 2 Top 25 wins -3 or 4 Top 50 wins -An RPI around or better than the cut line (depending on GA Southern and who their one win comes against) -One significant loss below 100 in RPI (Alabama) but most teams have one, and many have multiple! Considering they have a good non-conference win or two in there (FSU and GA Southern), they almost check all of the boxes of primary criteria. However, they WILL lose H2H with like EVERY single SEC bubble team (unless they beat Oklahoma) Well when you put it THAT way… 😝 It just seems baffling that a team with a late 8-match losing streak would still be in consideration. Even if they beat Oklahoma, they’d be 1-10 in the final stretch of the season and would be no better than 11th in the ACC. I get that they looked promising the first 5 weeks of the season and had a strong pre-conference showing, but at what point does the committee say “yeah, the wheels fell off the bus many miles ago”? |
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