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Post by jayj79 on Nov 24, 2024 21:17:33 GMT -5
even more reason to adopt that rule. Let other conferences get some at-larges. if you have a losing conference record, you don't deserve an at-large. I suppose there could be an exception for teams that finish in the top 25 of the RPI Well this would be completely silly based on the fact that some conferences are way more stacked than the otherđź’€ I'm not suggesting that every conference gets 2 teams in. But there is no reason why someone that can't win half their conference matches needs to get an at-large into the NCAA tournament. They've had their chances to win matches against the top teams. Give some other team a shot. |
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Nov 24, 2024 21:27:49 GMT -5
Interestingly enough - Stanford already has wins over the current #26, #27, and #28 teams in RPI, Florida St., Minnesota, and North Carolina... LOL So if they lost one by 'knocking' GA Tech out - it'd come back to them anyways. I don't see #26 Florida State beating SMU. Now #27 North Carolina may slip into the top 25 with a win against Virginia but last time they played it went to 5 so that will be an interesting match to watch. If the third team, #29 Minnesota get's into the top 25, then that's a plus for Penn State. It's going to be fun this last week to see where everybody ends up after the last match is over and then it's up to the committee to do their magic........ Georgia Tech may not drop that much losing to 2 of the top 5 teams. Current Figstats unmodified RPI: 22 Texas A&M .6276 -- at South Carolina (57) 23 Missouri .6260 -- Kentucky (10) Auburn (58) 24 BYU .6254 -- at Kansas (11) at Kansas St (101) 25 Georgia Tech .6194 -- Stanford (5) at Pittsburgh (2) 26 Florida State .6159 -- SMU (8) at Wake Forest (135) 27 North Carolina .6151 -- Virginia (44) at Clemson (110) 28 S Dakota St. .6143 -- NDSU (185)/Denver (188) Omaha (93)/South Dakota (107) 29 Minnesota .6100 -- at Illinois (32) Ohio St (76) |
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 24, 2024 21:48:07 GMT -5
Stanford or Creighton jumping Penn State is pretty awful, but I understand it for Stanford based on the criteria. Common opponents does go Stanford’s way if they win against Louisville.
I know the SOS criteria has often benefitted B10 teams but it really is not the case this year. I can’t imagine anyone looking at their schedule versus Stanford or Creighton and thinking PSU has weaker wins/losses. Stanford and Creighton fans are out here begging teams like Missouri and Florida State stay in the top 25.
Schumacher did not schedule as well as either team, but PSU performed so much better.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 24, 2024 22:10:05 GMT -5
Realistically, who is fighting for those last few hosting spots. A few teams seemed to have ruined their chances of hosting the first two rounds this weekend (Dayton, GT, Missouri). By my count: Pitt, Neb, Louisville, PSU, Creighton, Stanford, Wisc, SMU, ASU, Purdue, Kansas, Texas, Oregon, Kentucky seem like a safe 14 to host, which would leave 2 spots. Baylor, Florida, Utah, Minnesota, USC, TCU? Am I missing someone? Locks (11): Nebraska, Penn State, Wisconsin, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Stanford, SMU, Arizona State, Kentucky, Texas, Creighton Likely: (2) Kansas, Utah Bubble: (6) Purdue, Oregon, Florida, USC, Georgia Tech, TCU Long Shot (2): Marquette, Baylor Kansas and Utah probably make it in even if they lose their remaining matches. Utah just has 1 match left; Kansas has 2 left. Bubble Teams: Purdue: @ Oregon, @ Washington. Win 1 and they are in. Lose both and they still have a chance. Oregon: Purdue, @ UCLA. Win both and they are in, lose both and they are out. Split - and I think they are probably in, especially if the one they win is Purdue. Florida: @ South Carolina, @ Georgia. Have to win both to have a chance. USC: @ Washington, Iowa. Have to win both to have a chance. Georgia Tech: Stanford, @ Pittsburgh. Win both and they should be in. Pitt game in on Saturday - in case the committee ignores those matches then they wouldn't have a shot. TCU: @ West Virginia, @ Cincinnati. Have to win both to have shot. I would say the odds are that it is Kansas, Utah, Purdue, Oregon for 4 of the final 5 spots and then I would guess that Florida is most likely - but it could be really close with TCU/USC. Georgia Tech is such a longshot given their remaining schedule. I don't even think Minnesota can get into the Top 25 in RPI, so I don't see them as having a chance. |
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Post by Millenium on Nov 24, 2024 22:30:34 GMT -5
trojansc / bluepenquin what will PSU's RPI be after the Rutgers match, assuming, of course, that they win. Will they still be in 4th place, as per Figstats?
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 24, 2024 23:03:55 GMT -5
trojansc / bluepenquin what will PSU's RPI be after the Rutgers match, assuming, of course, that they win. Will they still be in 4th place, as per Figstats? No. General rule of thumb for the season. 1) Penn State will finish 6th in RPI if they lose to Nebraska and #4 if they win. 2) Stanford and Creighton will finish right next to each other if Stanford splits their last 2 and Creighton wins the BE tournament - probably 50/50 on who would have the better RPI. Right now - most likely RPI finish will be 4. Stanford, 5. Creighton, 6. Penn State. My guess to seedings would be - 4. Penn State, 5. Stanford, 6. Creighton. |
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Post by Millenium on Nov 24, 2024 23:48:24 GMT -5
trojansc / bluepenquin what will PSU's RPI be after the Rutgers match, assuming, of course, that they win. Will they still be in 4th place, as per Figstats? No. General rule of thumb for the season. 1) Penn State will finish 6th in RPI if they lose to Nebraska and #4 if they win. 2) Stanford and Creighton will finish right next to each other if Stanford splits their last 2 and Creighton wins the BE tournament - probably 50/50 on who would have the better RPI. Right now - most likely RPI finish will be 4. Stanford, 5. Creighton, 6. Penn State. My guess to seedings would be - 4. Penn State, 5. Stanford, 6. Creighton. So, this tells me their RPI remains at 4 after the Rutgers match; that's what I was interest to know. Thanks. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 25, 2024 7:26:01 GMT -5
No. General rule of thumb for the season. 1) Penn State will finish 6th in RPI if they lose to Nebraska and #4 if they win. 2) Stanford and Creighton will finish right next to each other if Stanford splits their last 2 and Creighton wins the BE tournament - probably 50/50 on who would have the better RPI. Right now - most likely RPI finish will be 4. Stanford, 5. Creighton, 6. Penn State. My guess to seedings would be - 4. Penn State, 5. Stanford, 6. Creighton. So, this tells me their RPI remains at 4 after the Rutgers match; that's what I was interest to know. Thanks. After Wednesday - it will be: If Stanford beats Georgia Tech: 4. Stanford 5. Creighton 6. Penn State If Stanford loses to Georgia Tech: 4. Creighton 5. Penn State 6. Stanford |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Nov 25, 2024 14:48:15 GMT -5
So how does Marquette have an RPI of 22 while going 1-6 against Top 25 teams and 2-6 against Top 50 teams? Does that make sense? 50%(!) of your ranking is an average of your opponents W/L records: Ah thanks!, that was the part I didn't understand. |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Nov 25, 2024 14:49:47 GMT -5
So how does Marquette have an RPI of 22 while going 1-6 against Top 25 teams and 2-6 against Top 50 teams? Does that make sense? Wait until they end up around #17-19 after the Big East tournament. Their last 3 matches could end up being - DePaul, UConn, and Creighton. That is an average opponent w/l% of .792. That is huge for the RPI - if you are able to win 2 of those 3. 1 down one more to go! |
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