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Post by volleysota on Nov 22, 2024 12:28:22 GMT -5
I get why this is annoying to diehard volleyball fans, but the reality is that many casual sports fans might actually need that information. They don't do that in football or basketball because those sports are much more popular and much better understood by casuals than volleyball is. Hopefully, the day will come where women's volleyball is as popular as those sports are, so casuals will already understand the basics when tuning in, but we're still a way's off from that. But they don't do it for softball, lacrosse, cornhole, tennis, etc. I have watched many of these events on ESPN and they do not inform the viewer about it, nor do the announcers talk about it during the game. They treat viewers as someone who is interested in watching and will figure it out. There are more NEW viewers every week to football or basketball then there are to volleyball. They don't tell me what a play-action pass is. They don't tell me what 3 seconds is in basketball. They don't tell me why it was an illegal formation. And I really get mad at volleyball color commentators when they say "what we call", as in what we call a pancake, or what we call a slide, or what we call a 31...is it what we call a fastball or curveball, what we call a slant route, what we call zone defense, what we call serve and volley...they treat it like it is some exclusive club and anyone watching is watching for the first time. Sounds like you need to get into the commentary business then! |
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Post by vbman100 on Nov 22, 2024 12:55:03 GMT -5
But they don't do it for softball, lacrosse, cornhole, tennis, etc. I have watched many of these events on ESPN and they do not inform the viewer about it, nor do the announcers talk about it during the game. They treat viewers as someone who is interested in watching and will figure it out. There are more NEW viewers every week to football or basketball then there are to volleyball. They don't tell me what a play-action pass is. They don't tell me what 3 seconds is in basketball. They don't tell me why it was an illegal formation. And I really get mad at volleyball color commentators when they say "what we call", as in what we call a pancake, or what we call a slide, or what we call a 31...is it what we call a fastball or curveball, what we call a slant route, what we call zone defense, what we call serve and volley...they treat it like it is some exclusive club and anyone watching is watching for the first time. Sounds like you need to get into the commentary business then! I would love to. Please point me in the right direction. Thanks. |
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Post by volleysota on Nov 22, 2024 13:00:41 GMT -5
Sounds like you need to get into the commentary business then! I would love to. Please point me in the right direction. Thanks. I think mervinswerved actually does play-by-play, he may have more insight on that than I do. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Nov 22, 2024 13:31:51 GMT -5
I would love to. Please point me in the right direction. Thanks. I think mervinswerved actually does play-by-play, he may have more insight on that than I do. Color, not PxP. |
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Post by Norah Sus on Nov 22, 2024 13:39:29 GMT -5
Diehard gymnastics fans cringe at every level of commentary (from bad college meets to the Olympics) because the commentators purposely 'dumb it down' so much that we just hear the same stuff over and over - the beam is 4 inches wide, 4 feet off the ground; the names of the events; an explanation about what an out of bounds deduction is every time it happens, etc. There's so much amazing detail they could include if they were aiming their commentary at the diehard gymnastics fan. But it's just the same boring layperson things pointed out every single time by design.
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 22, 2024 13:45:43 GMT -5
Diehard gymnastics fans cringe at every level of commentary (from bad college meets to the Olympics) because the commentators purposely 'dumb it down' so much that we just hear the same stuff over and over - the beam is 4 inches wide, 4 feet off the ground; the names of the events; an explanation about what an out of bounds deduction is every time it happens, etc. There's so much amazing detail they could include if they were aiming their commentary at the diehard gymnastics fan. But it's just the same boring layperson things pointed out every single time by design. Again, the vast majority of people watching gymnastics at the Olympics are casuals who probably only watch gymnastics once every four years. |
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Post by Norah Sus on Nov 22, 2024 13:58:08 GMT -5
Diehard gymnastics fans cringe at every level of commentary (from bad college meets to the Olympics) because the commentators purposely 'dumb it down' so much that we just hear the same stuff over and over - the beam is 4 inches wide, 4 feet off the ground; the names of the events; an explanation about what an out of bounds deduction is every time it happens, etc. There's so much amazing detail they could include if they were aiming their commentary at the diehard gymnastics fan. But it's just the same boring layperson things pointed out every single time by design. Again, the vast majority of people watching gymnastics at the Olympics are casuals who probably only watch gymnastics once every four years. Yes, that was the point of my comment. (I was just trying to point out that the commentary is at the level it is at in sports because it's aimed at the layperson and it is not always that the commentator needs to be replaced - the new commentator would keep it simple, too.) |
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Post by JT on Nov 22, 2024 13:59:31 GMT -5
Diehard gymnastics fans cringe at every level of commentary (from bad college meets to the Olympics) because the commentators purposely 'dumb it down' so much that we just hear the same stuff over and over - the beam is 4 inches wide, 4 feet off the ground; the names of the events; an explanation about what an out of bounds deduction is every time it happens, etc. There's so much amazing detail they could include if they were aiming their commentary at the diehard gymnastics fan. But it's just the same boring layperson things pointed out every single time by design. Again, the vast majority of people watching gymnastics at the Olympics are casuals who probably only watch gymnastics once every four years. True (for me, anyway). However, I can remember the deduction for stepping out of bounds, and I can see (roughly) how wide and high up the balance beam is. (And is it actually 4”, or is it 10cm? Not that it makes a bit of difference.) |
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 22, 2024 14:05:29 GMT -5
Again, the vast majority of people watching gymnastics at the Olympics are casuals who probably only watch gymnastics once every four years. Yes, that was the point of my comment. (I was just trying to point out that the commentary is at the level it is at in sports because it's aimed at the layperson and it is not always that the commentator needs to be replaced - the new commentator would keep it simple, too.) Oh, okay. Sorry that I seem to have misinterpreted the intent of your comment. |
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Post by Norah Sus on Nov 22, 2024 14:05:32 GMT -5
Again, the vast majority of people watching gymnastics at the Olympics are casuals who probably only watch gymnastics once every four years. True (for me, anyway). However, I can remember the deduction for stepping out of bounds, and I can see (roughly) how wide and high up the balance beam is. (And is it actually 4”, or is it 10cm? Not that it makes a bit of difference.) It's actually 10cm, but they often just say 4 inches. |
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Post by Norah Sus on Nov 22, 2024 14:06:17 GMT -5
Yes, that was the point of my comment. (I was just trying to point out that the commentary is at the level it is at in sports because it's aimed at the layperson and it is not always that the commentator needs to be replaced - the new commentator would keep it simple, too.) Oh, okay. Sorry that I seem to have misinterpreted the intent of your comment. Well, it would've helped and made more sense if I'd reversed the tone of it.  |
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Post by volleysota on Nov 22, 2024 14:07:34 GMT -5
True (for me, anyway). However, I can remember the deduction for stepping out of bounds, and I can see (roughly) how wide and high up the balance beam is. (And is it actually 4”, or is it 10cm? Not that it makes a bit of difference.) It's actually 10cm, but they often just say 4 inches. Is this the point in time where I mention the 10 foot vs. 3 meter attack line? |
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Post by Norah Sus on Nov 22, 2024 14:12:09 GMT -5
It's actually 10cm, but they often just say 4 inches. Is this the point in time where I mention the 10 foot vs. 3 meter attack line? Good call, it's exactly the same as that situation! |
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Post by JT on Nov 22, 2024 14:25:00 GMT -5
Is this the point in time where I mention the 10 foot vs. 3 meter attack line? Good call, it's exactly the same as that situation! When is the rest of the world gonna catch on and switch to the proper measuring system?!?!? |
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Post by karellen on Nov 22, 2024 15:19:16 GMT -5
When a team scores 20+ points, they are NOT in the "Red Zone"
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