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Post by bucky415 on Nov 14, 2006 13:58:11 GMT -5
I think Hawaii fans probably care about the poll too. If they stay in the top sixteen, they have a better case that the NCAA is screwing them if they don't host the first two rounds. It has been "just try to relax" for Hawaii in that regard the last two years.
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Post by baldyballer on Nov 14, 2006 15:15:49 GMT -5
I think colorado got hosed! Only 40 votes after a tough schedule, good quality wins, including Nebraska!! They should be hanging around 25. I honestly think middle Big 12 teams like Colorado, Iowa State, and even Baylor should be more respected in the polls on a regular basis.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2006 15:29:10 GMT -5
It's really crowded at #24-25. Look how tough it was for St Johns and Pepperdine to get in.
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Post by maninyellowhat on Nov 14, 2006 15:30:09 GMT -5
Sarcasm will get you everywhere.
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Post by vbrulz on Nov 14, 2006 16:00:29 GMT -5
Why do St. Johns and Pepperdine get in? Isn't the Big 12 and Colorado's schedule a lot better?
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Post by ooreo46 on Nov 14, 2006 17:57:00 GMT -5
I think the next couple weeks will help solidify the rankings, and could prove to be some interesting matches/results. USC vs UCLA, Washington at Stanford, Texas at Nebraska. I think possibly the Texas vs Nebraska match and the Stanford Washington match will prove to be the ones most impacting the poll. I think USC/UCLA will just solidify their current positions or flip them around, depending on the outcome. I think Penn St obviously has the easiest road ahead, and I still think they will get a #1 seed come tourney time. Have to agree with you on the upcming matches. If Texas can upset Nebraska, the Huskers will plummet to third, maybe even fourth? Washington and Stanford will move up and depending on who beats who, it will be winner of the match at 1 and loser at 2. USC/UCLA is a toss up, who knows? Penn St. should remain at 5 unless somethign freaky happens. Disagree about Penn St. getting top seed come tourney time. I think it will be a Pac-10 team. If Penn St. gets top seed, well, sh*t happens
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Post by Gorf on Nov 14, 2006 22:13:02 GMT -5
I think Hawaii fans probably care about the poll too. If they stay in the top sixteen, they have a better case that the NCAA is screwing them if they don't host the first two rounds. It has been "just try to relax" for Hawaii in that regard the last two years. The only regional hosts that ought to be able to also host sub-regionals are those that are seeded 1-4 going into the tournament. Just because we have pre-selected regional sites now doesn't mean that additional favoritism ought to be bestowed on the host schools of those sites by allowing them to also host sub-regionals if they're not a top 4 seed. I'd rather had the sub-regional and regional hosting changed back to how it was handled before the shift to pre-selected sub-regional sites.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 14, 2006 23:04:53 GMT -5
I think Hawaii fans probably care about the poll too. If they stay in the top sixteen, they have a better case that the NCAA is screwing them if they don't host the first two rounds. It has been "just try to relax" for Hawaii in that regard the last two years. Some Hawai'i fans probably do but many of us do not. We've been screwed over enough times to know better. Btw, I think Hawai'i will stay home this year for the first and second rounds. If UH is sent on the road and doesn't make it back to their own regional, the fans will punish the NCAA by not showing up. The time for screwing Hawai'i is over!!
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Post by Gorf on Nov 15, 2006 1:01:05 GMT -5
Bik, they didn't show up as expected during the 1999 Final Four either!
Was that a pre-revenge for the 21st Century strategy?
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Post by mahina on Nov 15, 2006 1:07:02 GMT -5
I was there for that final and that was, in fact, a pretty good crowd considering Hawaii wasn't playing. A much bigger crowd than anywhere else in the country would have gotten and a much bigger crowd than it would have been at Stanford or Penn St. I guess it depends on whether you look at it with the "glass half empty" syndrome.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 15, 2006 1:13:36 GMT -5
Bik, they didn't show up as expected during the 1999 Final Four either! Was that a pre-revenge for the 21st Century strategy? Well Hawai'i was expected to be there but they lost to Texas A&M so many people, like myself, decided to forgo the finals.
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Post by Gorf on Nov 15, 2006 2:07:18 GMT -5
I was there for that final and that was, in fact, a pretty good crowd considering Hawaii wasn't playing. A much bigger crowd than anywhere else in the country would have gotten and a much bigger crowd than it would have been at Stanford or Penn St. I guess it depends on whether you look at it with the "glass half empty" syndrome. I believe the year before in Madison the Badgers hosted and had at least a couple thousand more in the "tickets sold" and many more than that over the Wahine if the turnstile count was used. The SSC was credited for having ~10K people at the championship match though there weren't nearly that many people actually there to watch the match. If they'd hosted the 1999 Final Four as well they would very likely have had similar numbers of tickets sold and turnstile counts that they had in 1998. I'd grant you that it isn't likely that either Stanford or Penn State would have had attendence anywhere close to what the Wahine had even without their team being in the Final Four though. Hawaii is also warmer, the SSC had better concessions, and I stayed in Hawii for 3+ weeks as opposed to 3-4 days in Madison. Though, on my last day there I got stuck in the middle of a monsoon of some sort. Barely made it from Maui back to Oahu and I did get stuck sitting in the airport on Oahu for like 4+ extra hours waiting for the flight to Seattle to be ready for take off, missed my connection in Seattle, had to wait in Seattle for like 6+ extra hours, and finally got back to the MSP airport at least half a day later than scheduled. I think I slept for like a full day once I passed out after hauling my luggage into my house.
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Post by Gorf on Nov 15, 2006 2:11:45 GMT -5
Bik, they didn't show up as expected during the 1999 Final Four either! Was that a pre-revenge for the 21st Century strategy? Well Hawai'i was expected to be there but they lost to Texas A&M so many people, like myself, decided to forgo the finals. Play one of your violins for yourself BiK! I'd still show up to watch the matches of the Final Four even if Minnesota hosts it again. Even if the Gophers weren't playing in the Final Four. I did that in 1988. There days the temperaturs aren't quite as cold in the winter as they were back then either. I believe the temperatures were in the 10-15 degree below area for both match days without windchills while we pretty rarely get below 0 degrees this century.
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Post by mahina on Nov 15, 2006 4:02:27 GMT -5
I was there for that final and that was, in fact, a pretty good crowd considering Hawaii wasn't playing. A much bigger crowd than anywhere else in the country would have gotten and a much bigger crowd than it would have been at Stanford or Penn St. I guess it depends on whether you look at it with the "glass half empty" syndrome. I believe the year before in Madison the Badgers hosted and had at least a couple thousand more in the "tickets sold" and many more than that over the Wahine if the turnstile count was used. The SSC was credited for having ~10K people at the championship match though there weren't nearly that many people actually there to watch the match. If they'd hosted the 1999 Final Four as well they would very likely have had similar numbers of tickets sold and turnstile counts that they had in 1998. Yes, I forgot about Wisconsin. I like to hear that. That was also impressive. The final at the SSC, however, was completely sold out to capacity. The tickets actually sold for the final was more than 10,200 tickets. More than half of the people showed for the final despite Hawaii not being there - including me. And if we had hosted the 1998 final four as well, I'm sure we would very likely had similar tickets sold and turnstile counts.
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Post by 2c on Nov 15, 2006 4:36:28 GMT -5
I'll be happy if half the Quest Center is full if Huskers don't make it. Since all tickets are sold, I'm not sure what the majority of Husker fans that bought tickets will do if Nebr isn't there or if they lose in the Semis.
One of the major drawbacks of the sell out is that it will keep away a lot of fans that would normally attend but can't get tickets in advance. So if Huskers don't make it and thus the Husker fans don't show up, there may be less people in the stands than normal. But at least they'll have the $$$ regardless.
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