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Post by vballcoach on Feb 15, 2006 10:50:23 GMT -5
[/quote] MPSF DIII: 1 US Santa Cruz [/quote]
UC Santa Cruz is an independent, not a member of the MPSF. And, there has been talk of Southern Vermont University Hosting a DIII team.
What would people think if the NAIA teams moved to DI or DIII. I believe there are around 15 NAIA schools total. Playing DI or DIII would lessen their scholarship burden from around 10 to 4.5 or 0.
If NAIA schools joined DIII there would be the requisite 50 teams for an NCAA DIII championship. In the west, UC Santa Cruz is the only DIII. If NAIA Holy Names, Cal Baptist and Hope went DIII there would be the beginnings of a DIII conference in the west.
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Post by pepperdoody on Feb 15, 2006 11:29:06 GMT -5
The division three teams don't have any athletic scholarships . But most of the coaches get kids with good grades and get academic scholarships for their players .
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Post by volleydog on Feb 15, 2006 11:43:03 GMT -5
NAIA and NCAA are totally different governing bodies. It's not like NAIA is D4.
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Post by newburyvball on Feb 15, 2006 11:54:26 GMT -5
southern vermont already has a team this year and are playing about 12-14 games and are an associcate member of the NECVA
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Post by vballcoach on Feb 15, 2006 12:20:52 GMT -5
The division three teams don't have any athletic scholarships . But most of the coaches get kids with good grades and get academic scholarships for their players . I understand this. However, NCAA DIII rules require that athletes not receive more financial aid or academic scholarships than the students body. And, money for academic scholarships does not come outof the athletic budget. In addition, self-studies are now required by the NCAA to confirm that student athletes do not receive more financial aid than the student body. So, it would be cheaper for NAIA schools, especially those that are cutting their programs, to have an NCAA DIII program. Becuase NAIA and NCAA are different Associations, a school may have dual affiliation. However, a school may not participate in different Divisions of NCAA. It's just an idea. I would cost NAIA schools less money and would bring about the NCAA DIII championship.
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Post by newburyvball on Feb 15, 2006 12:43:18 GMT -5
it is nearly a 8 year waiting period to get into the NCAA Divisoin 3 at this point. There is actually a talk of freezing the number of d3 colleges
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Post by vballcoach on Feb 15, 2006 13:11:34 GMT -5
newburyvball,
good point. i had forgotten about that.
though, isn't that current proposal still under review? and, isn't part of the proposal that current institutions applying for DIII status would be 'grandfathered' in?
if the growth of DIII is frozen, that would kill hopes of an NCAA DIII championship... bummer
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Post by volleydog on Feb 15, 2006 13:24:36 GMT -5
Sounds like another solid NCAA policy! You can't have a DIII championship unless you have 50 teams....and oh yeah, we are freezing the number of DIII schools at 49.
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Post by gobears on Feb 15, 2006 13:30:14 GMT -5
anyone know why there should be any wait to join NCAA Div. 3?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2006 14:00:45 GMT -5
who, although very talented, won't play D1 because he is only a 6'2 OH Don't give up hope. Last year, we had an OH here at Loyola-Chicago come in late in the season and played pretty well. He was listed at 6'2" then. He's starting this year beside our top OH who was listed at 6'3" last year and the same guy that went down late in the season. It's funny how both guys grew and inch on the 2006 roster. So it's now how tall you are (but still important) but how good you are too. As for all this stuff about expanding the tournament, when will an official announcement take place???
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Post by vballcoach on Feb 15, 2006 14:11:10 GMT -5
As usual, money is a part of the issue with why the NCAA might limit the number of institutions. Consider the following: * Review resources currently available to Division III — including the current guarantee of 3.18 percent of the Association’s annual budget as well as programs and services provided by the national office — in determining an optimal size for the division. The committee indicated such a review should determine the actual cost to the division of each member, and the impact of adding new members. The committee also supported study of the most appropriate championship structure for the division, based on its philosophy statement (noting that Future of Division III survey results indicated overwhelming membership support for the current structure).www.ncaa.org/Feb. 13, 2006 Edition of NCAA News
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Post by pepperdoody on Feb 15, 2006 14:58:59 GMT -5
About the 6'2 guy , What about libero ?
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Post by vb on Feb 15, 2006 15:00:39 GMT -5
it is nearly a 8 year waiting period to get into the NCAA Divisoin 3 at this point. There is actually a talk of freezing the number of d3 colleges I believe Carthage did D3 in three years. First, a club team played. Second, a handicapped provisional D3. Then finally a regular D3. Carthage has success, so I would ask them for the blueprint. At some point they get the developmental money promised to them for starting a program.
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Feb 15, 2006 15:20:30 GMT -5
About the 6'2 guy , What about libero ? Pepperdine has a 6' former high school outside hitter, who still maintains the #1 HS career kill record in his home state, who hasn't seen the court despite having a 40" vertical. Great kid too.
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Post by vb on Feb 15, 2006 15:51:12 GMT -5
He also was voted the best player in the state and led his club team to 60 match wins in a row. Almost as an afterthought, followed all this up with a state title. Oh, least I forget a national NCAA team win. It is safe to say that this is the one player who has "won at every level." Very Valuable to his team in getting them ready week after week.
Someday he is going to get his chance, and Marvbaby is going to slap himself alongside his head.
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