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Post by star035 on Feb 15, 2006 16:03:04 GMT -5
Not to mention he's also from a great family.
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Post by CityTechLegend on Feb 15, 2006 16:58:14 GMT -5
MPSF DIII: 1 US Santa Cruz [/quote] UC Santa Cruz is an independent, not a member of the MPSF. And, there has been talk of Southern Vermont University Hosting a DIII team. What would people think if the NAIA teams moved to DI or DIII. I believe there are around 15 NAIA schools total. Playing DI or DIII would lessen their scholarship burden from around 10 to 4.5 or 0. If NAIA schools joined DIII there would be the requisite 50 teams for an NCAA DIII championship. In the west, UC Santa Cruz is the only DIII. If NAIA Holy Names, Cal Baptist and Hope went DIII there would be the beginnings of a DIII conference in the west.[/quote] True, but by defult I listed them inthe MPSF to show their most proximate league. They are the only DIII in that area and they do play most of the MPSF teams.
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Post by CityTechLegend on Feb 15, 2006 17:13:25 GMT -5
anyone know why there should be any wait to join NCAA Div. 3? For a NAIA school, money. Most NAIA with men's volleyball give athletics scholarships. If they go DIII they lose those scholarships, and they lose very competative teams. Imagine Cal Baptist losing those players from Ghana. Also now they have to pay membership fee to two different associations. That's money most school would rather not spend.
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Post by northbeach on Feb 15, 2006 20:18:09 GMT -5
Not to mention he's also from a great family. And who might this be?
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Post by gobears on Feb 15, 2006 22:15:24 GMT -5
To clarify, I was curious why there would be any reason from the NCAA's side to make a team wait to go D3. It would seem they would want teams to go NCAA asap to advance the sport.
I can't believe the NCAA would hold any school back who wanted to go D1, but maybe they would??? d2???
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Post by VBallObserver on Feb 16, 2006 0:07:32 GMT -5
who, although very talented, won't play D1 because he is only a 6'2 OH Don't give up hope. Last year, we had an OH here at Loyola-Chicago come in late in the season and played pretty well. He was listed at 6'2" then. He's starting this year beside our top OH who was listed at 6'3" last year and the same guy that went down late in the season. It's funny how both guys grew and inch on the 2006 roster. So it's now how tall you are (but still important) but how good you are too. As for all this stuff about expanding the tournament, when will an official announcement take place??? We've talked to him about Loyola. His grandfather is in the Hall of Fame there for BBall and his uncle played BBall there on the Alfrederick Hughes sweet 16 team. He's just now starting to focus on schools so we'll see where it goes. He's still hoping he will grow some more...his older brother is 6'7"! ;D
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Post by VBallObserver on Feb 16, 2006 0:13:15 GMT -5
About the 6'2 guy , What about libero ? We've also talked to him about this possibility if he doesn't get any taller. He's got a hitters mentality now but he learned the game in 6th grade playing back row on the middle school team and passes very well. This probably should be another thread but do schools want liberos who played that position in club and now HS or do they try to find great (but shorter) vballers that they can turn into liberos?
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Post by eiva on Feb 16, 2006 0:40:19 GMT -5
BSUs starting libero (Peckler) was a stud OH in HS before converting. Also PSU's starting libero (Smith) was an OH as late as last year. Peckler is about 6 two or three. Smith is the shortest on PSU at 6'6".
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Post by MIVAMIVA on Feb 16, 2006 0:55:33 GMT -5
Who wasn't a stud OH in High School? Most small OHs and setters are converted to libero because that is the only place they have a shot to get some playing time. 6'2 isn't too small assuming the kid can jump well.
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Post by swingaway on Feb 16, 2006 1:19:53 GMT -5
BSUs starting libero (Peckler) was a stud OH in HS before converting. Also PSU's starting libero (Smith) was an OH as late as last year. Peckler is about 6 two or three. Smith is the shortest on PSU at 6'6". As was Pepperdines
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Post by gitrdun on Feb 16, 2006 5:56:01 GMT -5
Smith is the shortest on PSU at 6'6". Shortest what? First, Aaron is not 6'6" Second, Aaron is not the shortest anything on PSU. Please clarify.
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Post by CityTechLegend on Feb 16, 2006 15:46:20 GMT -5
About the 6'2 guy , What about libero ? We've also talked to him about this possibility if he doesn't get any taller. He's got a hitters mentality now but he learned the game in 6th grade playing back row on the middle school team and passes very well. This probably should be another thread but do schools want liberos who played that position in club and now HS or do they try to find great (but shorter) vballers that they can turn into liberos? YES! Especially if they have a Hitter's mentallity. that means they are aggressive and want to pass every ball. That will work in his favor.
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Post by BeachBoy on Feb 16, 2006 15:47:27 GMT -5
The division three teams don't have any athletic scholarships . But most of the coaches get kids with good grades and get academic scholarships for their players . I understand this. However, NCAA DIII rules require that athletes not receive more financial aid or academic scholarships than the students body. And, money for academic scholarships does not come outof the athletic budget. In addition, self-studies are now required by the NCAA to confirm that student athletes do not receive more financial aid than the student body. So, it would be cheaper for NAIA schools, especially those that are cutting their programs, to have an NCAA DIII program. Becuase NAIA and NCAA are different Associations, a school may have dual affiliation. However, a school may not participate in different Divisions of NCAA. It's just an idea. I would cost NAIA schools less money and would bring about the NCAA DIII championship. NCAA schools are allowed one sport to be of a different division. I.E. you could be a D2 insititution and sponsor one male and female sport at a D1 level or D3 level.
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Post by Charlie on Feb 16, 2006 16:56:31 GMT -5
Anyone know the answer to this: could a school with a few NAIA programs field a team in men's vb at the DIII level? Or, to be in DIII is there a requirement for a certain number of sports, male and female, like there is for DI?
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Post by vballcoach on Feb 16, 2006 17:20:17 GMT -5
BeachBoy, Are you sure? What school do you know of that does this?
If this is true, then, it's a suprise that when UCSD went DII, the men's volleyball team didn't stay DIII.
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