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Post by lonewolf on Nov 4, 2010 12:07:35 GMT -5
Just heard that damn rumor again from a completely different source. I think it has legs. What are the rules about coaching college and club? It's something about 50 miles, but I'm not sure what that means. The high school athlete's permanent address has to be within 50miles of campus as the crow flies.
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Nov 4, 2010 12:17:45 GMT -5
Just heard that damn rumor again from a completely different source. I think it has legs. What are the rules about coaching college and club? It's something about 50 miles, but I'm not sure what that means. The high school athlete's permanent address has to be within 50miles of campus as the crow flies. Didn't seem to be a problem for Joy McKienzie when she took the UCLA job.
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Post by pepperpop on Nov 4, 2010 12:28:28 GMT -5
distance from the howard school to uga > 50 miles....
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Post by recoil on Nov 4, 2010 12:54:30 GMT -5
So he couldn't do both, then.
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Post by Not Me on Nov 4, 2010 13:01:10 GMT -5
I don't see how DI college coaches could coach club on a regular basis anyway. They really don't have an off season from their college team. With recruiting, off season training, and a spring season there isn't much time for club. And throw in a family, and it gets really busy.
Now I know that some coaches just put their name on a club, or show up once in a while, but to have a team is quite a commitment.
And if you are at a school like Georgia, I'm sure the money is good enough that you don't' need to do club.
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Post by dadish on Nov 4, 2010 13:24:46 GMT -5
Why in the world would UGA fire a proven winner (Joel's record at Winthrop was pretty good) and hire an unproven club coach??? This is delusional. I'm sure that they will be aggressive knowing that they are competing in the SEC, and againist Alabama for a new coach. If they are making a bold statement by firing Joel early, then they need to make a bold statement by hiring somebody good to replace him. Just because you were a mediocre college coach in California, doesn't mean you can find a way to build UGA to the high expectations they must have. If they are smart they will try Jenny McDowell... again.
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 4, 2010 13:56:03 GMT -5
Why in the world would UGA fire a proven winner (Joel's record at Winthrop was pretty good) and hire an unproven club coach??? This is delusional. I'm sure that they will be aggressive knowing that they are competing in the SEC, and againist Alabama for a new coach. If they are making a bold statement by firing Joel early, then they need to make a bold statement by hiring somebody good to replace him. Just because you were a mediocre college coach in California, doesn't mean you can find a way to build UGA to the high expectations they must have. If they are smart they will try Jenny McDowell... again. 1) The guy they are talking about was a DI assistant elsewhere, so it isn't as if he was totally new to DI VB. 2) You assume that volleyball is a priority at UGA. Right now the program that is the most visible is the football program. I am thinking that Mark Richt is going to be gone at the end of the season, so the really priority is to find a top notch football coach, not volleyball coach. 3) If they are going to the bank to hire the next Vince Dooley, I doubt they will have the funds to please a famous colegiate coach. 4) Can they talk someone into moving? Not sure if there will be another Mike Hebert from Illinois to Minnesota move in the offing. Athens is very nice and the campus is gorgeous so I can see the attraction. 5) Once again, I would look at mid-major head coaches and first assistants at top programs.
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Nov 4, 2010 16:04:31 GMT -5
Why in the world would UGA fire a proven winner (Joel's record at Winthrop was pretty good) and hire an unproven club coach??? This is delusional. I'm sure that they will be aggressive knowing that they are competing in the SEC, and againist Alabama for a new coach. If they are making a bold statement by firing Joel early, then they need to make a bold statement by hiring somebody good to replace him. Just because you were a mediocre college coach in California, doesn't mean you can find a way to build UGA to the high expectations they must have. If they are smart they will try Jenny McDowell... again. Joel's record at Winthrop reflected "proven winner." At Georgia it was at best a mixed bag.
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Post by endlesssummer on Nov 4, 2010 17:12:11 GMT -5
Georgia hired Greg McGarity as its new Athletic Director last August 13th. He has the budget and discretion to pay any coach, in any sport, whatever he feels is appropriate. The football team's recent lack of success hasn't diminished the Bulldogs' money machine.
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Post by humantrout on Nov 4, 2010 17:24:42 GMT -5
Why in the world would UGA fire a proven winner (Joel's record at Winthrop was pretty good) and hire an unproven club coach??? This is delusional. I'm sure that they will be aggressive knowing that they are competing in the SEC, and againist Alabama for a new coach. If they are making a bold statement by firing Joel early, then they need to make a bold statement by hiring somebody good to replace him. Just because you were a mediocre college coach in California, doesn't mean you can find a way to build UGA to the high expectations they must have. If they are smart they will try Jenny McDowell... again. Joel's record at Winthrop reflected "proven winner." At Georgia it was at best a mixed bag. I agree, its a long way from Winthrop / Big South to Georgia / SEC in terms of competitive level and the entire scope required to run an consistently effective program.
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Post by Keystonekid on Nov 4, 2010 22:50:32 GMT -5
Why in the world would UGA fire a proven winner (Joel's record at Winthrop was pretty good) and hire an unproven club coach??? This is delusional. I'm sure that they will be aggressive knowing that they are competing in the SEC, and againist Alabama for a new coach. If they are making a bold statement by firing Joel early, then they need to make a bold statement by hiring somebody good to replace him. Just because you were a mediocre college coach in California, doesn't mean you can find a way to build UGA to the high expectations they must have. If they are smart they will try Jenny McDowell... again. 1) The guy they are talking about was a DI assistant elsewhere, so it isn't as if he was totally new to DI VB. 2) You assume that volleyball is a priority at UGA. Right now the program that is the most visible is the football program. I am thinking that Mark Richt is going to be gone at the end of the season, so the really priority is to find a top notch football coach, not volleyball coach. 3) If they are going to the bank to hire the next Vince Dooley, I doubt they will have the funds to please a famous colegiate coach. 4) Can they talk someone into moving? Not sure if there will be another Mike Hebert from Illinois to Minnesota move in the offing. Athens is very nice and the campus is gorgeous so I can see the attraction. 5) Once again, I would look at mid-major head coaches and first assistants at top programs. Bingo. Id go after Kellly Sheffield, Anne Kordes, Reed Sunahara, Erik Sullivan. Of course they will go after Salima Davidson as well.
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Post by simplycurious on Nov 4, 2010 23:55:15 GMT -5
I'd go after Kellly Sheffield, Anne Kordes, Reed Sunahara, Erik Sullivan. Of course they will go after Salima Davidson as well. That's a nice list Keystonekid, however I don't believe you'll see any of those coaches as the next head coach at Georgia.
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Post by vbnerd on Nov 5, 2010 0:13:08 GMT -5
Aw C'mon SC, you know how recruiting works. Nobody is going where they are going until they get recruited. I'm not saying you are wrong about their futures, but we wouldn't respect McGarrity if accepted a "no" before making his sales pitch. An SEC head coach here, you are looking at a 6 figure head coaching job, and with the budget, facilities, and the fact that UGA is winning national titles (tennis, gymnastics, etc) on a regular basis, they are going to get a lot of poeple to return their phone calls. It may not be one of those names, but I think McGarrity owes it to his school to make those phone calls.
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Post by Keystonekid on Nov 5, 2010 7:02:07 GMT -5
I'd go after Kellly Sheffield, Anne Kordes, Reed Sunahara, Erik Sullivan. Of course they will go after Salima Davidson as well. That's a nice list Keystonekid, however I don't believe you'll see any of those coaches as the next head coach at Georgia. Why is that? Georgia can pay more than all three make, its a great campus with great facilities, and in a major conference.
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Post by southie on Nov 5, 2010 8:14:43 GMT -5
I don't pay attention to all of Georgia's women's sports programs, but they are elite in gymnastics, swimming, tennis, and softball. Have a good history in basketball, too. Most likely good in golf an soccer. It should come as no surprise that this new AD wants volleyball to be in upper portion of the SEC, as well.
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