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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 13:30:42 GMT -5
It's so obvious the team does better with K. Shoji. I understand Speraw thinks Caldwell has a high ceiling but he is choking on the court. It' not like he's 19-20 years old either, he is like 24 so if he is not a consistent setter by now he never will be.
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Post by thenetset on Jul 13, 2013 13:51:34 GMT -5
This is Caldwell's second calendar year as a setter. His first three years in college, he played opposite hitter.
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Post by spalding on Jul 13, 2013 13:54:44 GMT -5
First 4 match losing streak in World League ever for team USA. Not a good start for Speraw. Caldwell experiment was a fail and needs to end soon. Team was rolling with Kawika before Speraw went to Caldwell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 13:59:58 GMT -5
This is Caldwell's second calendar year as a setter. His first three years in college, he played opposite hitter. Maybe there's a reason Scates didn't play him at setter. |
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Post by jna on Jul 13, 2013 14:04:47 GMT -5
Now that our hopes have become officially fragments, I just want to say that I am very proud of this team despite the elimination. It wasn't meant to be. I convinced myself of this after the matches against Poland. Most of fans inside and outside US have claimed that this new team would be smashed up by the so-called elite teams like Brazil, Poland and others and what we saw was a quite different situation. Team USA put up a good fight against every single one of those teams. The guys showed great determination and fought it out under all kind of circunstances and managing to come back from huge deficit even when we thought it seemed impossible. That's how you do it!. Obviously there were some ugly play along the way. But I think team USA always enter the World League with a bit of disadvantage compared to other teams. The guys get together only a few weeks before the beginning of the tournament and that gives not much time of training in order to give the team a required rythm and synchronism. If I were John Speraw I would give up the World League 2014. Instead, he ought to focus all the attention on the World Championship and schedule a series of friendly matches as previous preparation before the tournament. As for the discussion involving our setters, yeah - Kyle Caldwell has been all fingers and thumbs. He is always trying to do some awkward things and ends up falling flat on his face. Kawika Shoji looks really promising, but he is more of kind of fast-tempo-setter which seems to bother Matthew Anderson a lot. Speaking of Anderson, I think he's been quite unsatisfactory in attack too. He hits the ball too much downward all the time and the ball get soft-toutched very often favouring the opponent to sideout easily. He ought try to be a bit more versatile. Paul Lotman, I guess he will never be a force in attack. That's why I wished to have seen Jeff Menzel in most of those matches. Anyways, I liked the way they showed up. With a little more training this team is going to become a surefire within a year or two. Mark my words!. Oh.. and there is one more thing. I think steps should be taken to prevent so many bad calls from happening. I feel like our team have been thrown down by bad refereeing more than anything else in the last matches.
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Post by arick2582 on Jul 13, 2013 15:03:05 GMT -5
Now that our hopes have become officially fragments, I just want to say that I am very proud of this team despite the elimination. It wasn't meant to be. I convinced myself of this after the matches against Poland. Most of fans inside and outside US have claimed that this new team would be smashed up by the so-called elite teams like Brazil, Poland and others and what we saw was a quite different situation. Team USA put up a good fight against every single one of those teams. ....... Anyways, I liked the way they showed up. With a little more training this team is going to become a surefire within a year or two. Mark my words!. Oh.. and there is one more thing. I think steps should be taken to prevent so many bad calls from happening. I feel like our team have been thrown down by bad refereeing more than anything else in the last matches. I agree with 90% of this whole post. |
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Post by bAnthony on Jul 13, 2013 15:32:38 GMT -5
I started thinking about the Caldwell/Ball comparisons. Luckily Caldwell will have more time to develop before his first games than Ball. I also don't think we had another setter doing a better job than Ball at that time. Stork took time off and then came back to play in the 1996 games at about 36. What is frustrating now is that we see the relative success Shoji has running the show, and then are forced to sit through Caldwell. I saw last week Speraw tweeted that they can't be happy with potential, but they need to succeed now. If that was the case, why not play the guy putting more points on the board now? People say he only has 2 years of setting experience, but he set as a sophomore at UCLA too, he just was on the bench most of the time. Another interesting note at the setter position: Suxho just signed with Trentino to replace Raphael. I wonder if he will be seeing the court much. He is too old, but even with the defections out of Serie A1, it will still be a better league than Belgium. He won't get to set Stokr or Juantorena, but he will get to play with Sokolov.
Menzel had a tough year this year and saw his playing time decrease by the end of the season. Not sure if he would have helped with our OH2 concerns as he was moved to OPP and taken out of the passing rotation in Italy. He will be playing with Caldwell at Noliko this fall. I am not sure if they are going to have him play OH or OPP.
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Post by kokyu on Jul 13, 2013 17:11:49 GMT -5
First 4 match losing streak in World League ever for team USA. Not a good start for Speraw. Caldwell experiment was a fail and needs to end soon. Team was rolling with Kawika before Speraw went to Caldwell. At this point I'd prefer if Speraw's been playing Caldwell for personal reasons rather than what's best for the team, because if his intentions were purely the latter that would just make him a really bad coach instead of a crooked good coach. If Caldwell's integrity were more valuable than padding his professional resume, he'd take himself off the team. For those who missed the first set, it should re-air on NBC next week. |
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Post by dusty64 on Jul 13, 2013 17:55:20 GMT -5
"Now that our hopes have become officially fragments, I just want to say that I am very proud of this team despite the elimination... //...Team USA put up a good fight against every single one of those teams...///Speaking of Anderson, I think he's been quite unsatisfactory in attack too. He hits the ball too much downward all the time and the ball get soft-toutched very often favouring the opponent to sideout easily. He ought try to be a bit more versatile. Paul Lotman, I guess he will never be a force in attack. That's why I wished to have seen Jeff Menzel in most of those matches." ________________________ This lines sum up the all thing. I never thought US team, after the so claimed renovation, could play so well. Congratulations Mr Speraw! But, in some matches i think a real leadership was needed, and at that respect Anderson didnt show what is really expected from a captain. Several times he had set points but his arm seems soft on the moments of truth. Despite this he played well. Another issue was some naiveness, after being 7 pts ahead vs Brazil we lost 1st set. Maybe youth factor. We have to improve also low defense and get another OH2. My rating 1 to 10 Holt - 8 Clark - 8 Erik Shoji - 8 Anderson-7 (only because "moments of truth", otherwise 8) Kawika Shoji - 7 Lee - 7 Smith - 7 Caldwell - 6 Troy - 6 Lotman - 6 Ciarelli - 6 Garret - 4 |
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Post by domingo on Jul 13, 2013 19:31:30 GMT -5
First 4 match losing streak in World League ever for team USA. Not a good start for Speraw. Caldwell experiment was a fail and needs to end soon. Team was rolling with Kawika before Speraw went to Caldwell. At this point I'd prefer if Speraw's been playing Caldwell for personal reasons rather than what's best for the team, because if his intentions were purely the latter that would just make him a really bad coach instead of a crooked good coach. If Caldwell's integrity were more valuable than padding his professional resume, he'd take himself off the team. For those who missed the first set, it should re-air on NBC next week. Somehow, I have the feeling that Al Scates had some influence over the setter selection of the World League pool plays. As a commentator for NBC Sports, I believe he has been to all games the USA team played and helped out during the team practice in Rio. Even though I haven't watched any of the delayed NBC Sports broadcast, I learned from an earlier post by 30killspergame that Coach Scates stated on the air that either Caldwell or Micah C. will be the future setter of the US team. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 22:06:50 GMT -5
"Now that our hopes have become officially fragments, I just want to say that I am very proud of this team despite the elimination... //...Team USA put up a good fight against every single one of those teams...///Speaking of Anderson, I think he's been quite unsatisfactory in attack too. He hits the ball too much downward all the time and the ball get soft-toutched very often favouring the opponent to sideout easily. He ought try to be a bit more versatile. Paul Lotman, I guess he will never be a force in attack. That's why I wished to have seen Jeff Menzel in most of those matches." ________________________ This lines sum up the all thing. I never thought US team, after the so claimed renovation, could play so well. Congratulations Mr Speraw! But, in some matches i think a real leadership was needed, and at that respect Anderson didnt show what is really expected from a captain. Several times he had set points but his arm seems soft on the moments of truth. Despite this he played well. Another issue was some naiveness, after being 7 pts ahead vs Brazil we lost 1st set. Maybe youth factor. We have to improve also low defense and get another OH2. My rating 1 to 10 Holt - 8 Clark - 8 Erik Shoji - 8 Anderson-7 (only because "moments of truth", otherwise 8) Kawika Shoji - 7 Lee - 7 Smith - 7 Caldwell - 6 Troy - 6 Lotman - 6 Ciarelli - 6 Garret - 4 I think you're downplaying the role of Lotman in passing and serve receive earlier on in the tournament. Was a vital reason he was doing well. I'd still probably give him a six too now that I think about it... If only he kept that skill level up |
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Post by arick2582 on Jul 13, 2013 23:45:32 GMT -5
At this point I'd prefer if Speraw's been playing Caldwell for personal reasons rather than what's best for the team, because if his intentions were purely the latter that would just make him a really bad coach instead of a crooked good coach. If Caldwell's integrity were more valuable than padding his professional resume, he'd take himself off the team. For those who missed the first set, it should re-air on NBC next week. Somehow, I have the feeling that Al Scates had some influence over the setter selection of the World League pool plays. As a commentator for NBC Sports, I believe he has been to all games the USA team played and helped out during the team practice in Rio. Even though I haven't watched any of the delayed NBC Sports broadcast, I learned from an earlier post by 30killspergame that Coach Scates stated on the air that either Caldwell or Micah C. will be the future setter of the US team. What the hell are you talking about? Scates does not do commentary for NBC Sports. The commentary is done by Paul Sunderland and Kevin Barnett, neither of whom are part of the coaching or consulting staff. If Scates had as much influence as you seem to be implying, Caldwell would not have been yanked after the first set. Please don't spread conspiracy theories about coaching favoritism, it's not good for the sport and hurts your own credibility. If you can find some real evidence of Scates' influence on Speraw's choices then please share it, but at this point it's just rumor. I can say that I don't agree with Speraw's choice but that doesn't mean Scates told him to play Caldwell. |
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Post by thenetset on Jul 14, 2013 1:08:17 GMT -5
This is Caldwell's second calendar year as a setter. His first three years in college, he played opposite hitter. Maybe there's a reason Scates didn't play him at setter. Certainly could be. I just raised it as a counter-point to "If he's not a good setter yet, he never will be." He actually has very, very little experience at the position. |
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Post by gobruins on Jul 14, 2013 5:04:39 GMT -5
This is Caldwell's second calendar year as a setter. His first three years in college, he played opposite hitter. This BS keeps getting repeated, and it is simply not true. Caldwell has been setting since his high school days. While he played some Opposite at UCLA, he was always primarily a setter. |
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Post by jna on Jul 14, 2013 6:02:56 GMT -5
I started thinking about the Caldwell/Ball comparisons. Luckily Caldwell will have more time to develop before his first games than Ball. I also don't think we had another setter doing a better job than Ball at that time. Stork took time off and then came back to play in the 1996 games at about 36. What is frustrating now is that we see the relative success Shoji has running the show, and then are forced to sit through Caldwell. I saw last week Speraw tweeted that they can't be happy with potential, but they need to succeed now. If that was the case, why not play the guy putting more points on the board now? People say he only has 2 years of setting experience, but he set as a sophomore at UCLA too, he just was on the bench most of the time. Another interesting note at the setter position: Suxho just signed with Trentino to replace Raphael. I wonder if he will be seeing the court much. He is too old, but even with the defections out of Serie A1, it will still be a better league than Belgium. He won't get to set Stokr or Juantorena, but he will get to play with Sokolov. Menzel had a tough year this year and saw his playing time decrease by the end of the season. Not sure if he would have helped with our OH2 concerns as he was moved to OPP and taken out of the passing rotation in Italy. He will be playing with Caldwell at Noliko this fall. I am not sure if they are going to have him play OH or OPP. No, you are misinformed. Kyle Caldwell was fired from Noliko Maaseik. Jeff Menzel is going to play alongside his long time buddy Vince Devaney that has been hired as the new setter of the team. What about Brad Lawson?. I think Speraw made a mistake not putting him to test. The spot filled by Garrett Muagututia seemed to be totally wasted. |
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