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Post by kro2488 on Jul 14, 2013 9:12:40 GMT -5
So, I really like Carson Clark, but he needs to learn how to dig a ball, but the whole team kinda does too. Yeah they are not getting their bodies behind the ball very well there... or at least the platform or one arm at least, they are very tall they can stretch out more than they think... i'm a short guy 5'10 i have to psychically dive through the air to get some of the balls they can stretch out for with their height lol... but all that goes back to reading and scouting, but sometimes you just have to make effort plays on defense. |
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Post by kro2488 on Jul 14, 2013 9:17:10 GMT -5
They are so close...push now...
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Post by arick2582 on Jul 14, 2013 9:21:56 GMT -5
So, I really like Carson Clark, but he needs to learn how to dig a ball, but the whole team kinda does too. Yeah they are not getting their bodies behind the ball very well there... or at least the platform or one arm at least, they are very tall they can stretch out more than they think... i'm a short guy 5'10 i have to psychically dive through the air to get some of the balls they can stretch out for with their height lol... but all that goes back to reading and scouting, but sometimes you just have to make effort plays on defense. I'm right there with you haha. |
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Post by kro2488 on Jul 14, 2013 9:22:16 GMT -5
side out now...first time...don't lose this ...
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Post by kro2488 on Jul 14, 2013 9:27:42 GMT -5
I hope they get a lot better next year especially in time for Rio...
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Post by arick2582 on Jul 14, 2013 9:32:51 GMT -5
Ridiculous. Build a lead - get lazy. Make a big play - serve out. Great dig - bad set. Great pass, great set - drag ball down into block. Good block position, dug ball - net violation. There were so many errors, and stupid errors at that. At the beginning of the tournament my expectations weren't that high, then when I saw that there was good potential there I got my hopes up, shouldn't have done that because I'm just frustrated now. There were a lot of great things they did but there is a lot to clean up, like, a lot and in every part of the game too. Speraw must have amazing patience.
Anyway, with the US and Poland both out of the tournament, I'm not sure who to root for. Maybe Canada as the underdog? Idk.
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Post by arick2582 on Jul 14, 2013 9:46:03 GMT -5
Wow... Anderson only had 3 kills. Yikes (kill, block, ace)
Anderson 5 pts (3, 0, 2), Lee 6 (4, 2, 0), Lotman 4 (4, 0, 0), K. Shoji 1 (0, 1, 0), Caldwell 5 (4, 1, 0), Clark 17 (14, 1, 2), Holt 3 (3, 0, 0), Muagututia 3 (2, 1, 0), Smith 2 (1, 1, 0), E. Shoji (Libero)
I got these from a Facebook page so they could be inaccurate, though they are usually reliable.
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Post by kokyu on Jul 14, 2013 13:09:03 GMT -5
If there was ever a time when Anderson, Clark, and Holt all had their serves dialed in at the same time... that'd be scary. I can't see that happening. I didn't watch today's match, perhaps boycotting until Caldwell leaves, but Clark seems the most consistent at serve while Anderson and Holt have been a mess. Their trepidation is easily visible when they prepare to make the service toss and approach. Self-doubt is self-prophecy, just no place for it on the NT imo. Were these guys fearless in college and pro but now fearful on the NT? Watching MPSF last year I noticed one player in particular who just had no apprehension whatsoever on serve - Brook Sedore. He doesn't physically look like a guy you'd want on the NT, but psychologically he's with it 100%, and that trumps physical every time. Not that it's difficult for anyone to outperform both Anderson and Holt on serve right now, I bet Sedore would do so consistently. I've never seem him timid in his attacks either. |
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Post by kokyu on Jul 14, 2013 13:11:42 GMT -5
Can someone tell me when Shoji was subbed out? Which set, the score at the time, and previous set score if subbed after first set.
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Post by arick2582 on Jul 14, 2013 13:43:21 GMT -5
If there was ever a time when Anderson, Clark, and Holt all had their serves dialed in at the same time... that'd be scary. I can't see that happening. I didn't watch today's match, perhaps boycotting until Caldwell leaves, but Clark seems the most consistent at serve while Anderson and Holt have been a mess. Their trepidation is easily visible when they prepare to make the service toss and approach. Self-doubt is self-prophecy, just no place for it on the NT imo. Were these guys fearless in college and pro but now fearful on the NT? Watching MPSF last year I noticed one player in particular who just had no apprehension whatsoever on serve - Brook Sedore. He doesn't physically look like a guy you'd want on the NT, but psychologically he's with it 100%, and that trumps physical every time. Not that it's difficult for anyone to outperform both Anderson and Holt on serve right now, I bet Sedore would do so consistently. I've never seem him timid in his attacks either. Couple things... 1. it's entirely possible for them to have it dialed in at the same time. Have you been watching at all? Not just today. Anderson was on today, Holt did well against Poland and was the deadliest server in Italy this last season. They're just struggling with timing, they were saying that with Matt the coaching staff was changing some of the mechanics of his swing, of course he's going to struggle. If anything they look frustrated more than anything. Also, they've had the exact same serving routine since 2007 at least and I don't see any trepidation. 2. Sedore is Canadian and unless he becomes a US citizen which is doubtful, will not be on the team so that point is moot. 3. To answer your other question, Shoji wasn't subbed out at any time, he set the entire first set where they lost 21-25 and did not start the last two sets nor was he subbed in at any time. 4. Caldwell did a much better job today than he has previously. |
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Post by kokyu on Jul 14, 2013 13:58:05 GMT -5
Well frustration, another form of resistance, is just as bad. How can Holt be so consistent in Italy and awful here? For as long as Anderson's been playing, it's weird they'd want and/or need him to change his serving method. If there were something wrong with it before, why didn't any of his previous coaches fix it? So Caldwell performs better when there's nothing to lose or gain, sounds like what he does in practice. Although I still think he has athletic limitations preventing him from being a great or good setter, appears psychology's the real handicap.
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Post by jna on Jul 14, 2013 14:43:56 GMT -5
As I stated before, Matt Anderson misses a lot of opportunities of rally-scoring, not only on the NT but also in pro clubs. Sometimes his struggle seems to be endless. He has to manage to stop hitting the block so many times. There is another thing that I'd like to point out. I've never seen Erik Shoji going for a dive in order to reach a ball coming from a powerful serve. Have you guys?. That's something that I've always admired about Andy McGuire (UCSB). I am looking forward to the rest of the season and find out how this team progresses. We still have USA Volleyball Cup, NORCECA Championship and, hopefully World Grand Champions Cup. The guys still have a lot of opportunities to improve and show what they're capable of. I just hope to see Evan Patak and Jeff Menzel having some playing time, together, in one of those occasions. |
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Post by gobruins on Jul 15, 2013 4:34:28 GMT -5
This BS keeps getting repeated, and it is simply not true. Caldwell has been setting since his high school days. While he played some Opposite at UCLA, he was always primarily a setter. He had about 1 assist per set as a junior. A little more as a sophomore than I was aware of. Thanks for being a complete dick in pointing it out, though. I am a dick for pointing it out??? Well, there goes that stereotype about Canadians all being really nice people.  |
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Post by itsallrelative on Jul 15, 2013 8:18:27 GMT -5
Looking at the FIVB stats---Anderson only got 12 attempts? and hit .125 (american)? does that seem really, really low to anyone else?
Clark--14 kills, 32 attempts, .250.
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Post by dusty64 on Jul 15, 2013 15:09:33 GMT -5
OFFICIAL STATS FROM WL
Erik Shoji - Best digger
Clark - 3rd Server
Matt A - always in best 10 wichever the skill
So, these huys along with undisputables like Holt or Kawika are here to stay. Period.
The problem is LEADERSHIP IN THE COURT . It is not possible leading with 5 to 7 pts and lose several sets. Second and a MAJOR PROBLEM: we dont have a second GOOD OH. The (baby) errors commited by Lotman and Ciarelli could give us the Great Book of How to Burn Points.
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