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Post by wang pu on Feb 19, 2016 1:32:51 GMT -5
I'll take either gentleman or JL over RC, DC, EY, NB, AL. I could go on with the list but no need. I'm only recognizing three sets of those initials, and I'm certain AL (Albert Hanneman) is wrong. So maybe two.... |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Feb 19, 2016 12:23:18 GMT -5
Dodd is going to be the volunteer assistant at FIU - his youngest daughter is a freshman there. I don't think it's a long term thing.
As for the rest of the thread, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell y'all are arguing about. Although I did get a chuckle out of the "Dain is a tactical genius" line. Not that he's clueless - far from it - but he does what Anna tells him to do.
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Post by johnbar on Feb 19, 2016 22:40:57 GMT -5
Dodd is going to be the volunteer assistant at FIU - his youngest daughter is a freshman there. I don't think it's a long term thing. Sort of like he did at St. Mary's when he had a daughter there, I guess. Just went to the Gael's website and was surprised to see Jordan Shaw listed as Head Coach for Beach VB. www.smcgaels.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=21400&SPID=151840&SPSID=892416I some how missed that she has been an assistant for the indoor team this year. |
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Post by beavis on Feb 20, 2016 5:37:50 GMT -5
Thanks for making my earlier points much more eloquently than I did, everyone! Guest2 - please lay your incredibly politically correct, inane argument to rest. To even suggest that women should only coach women (and men/men, for that matter) because of your unsubstantiated feeling that the men coaches have no choice but to be inappropriately attracted (and actually act on that attraction) to women players is patently absurd. Geez, all these years that I have been happily betrothed and yet unable to not cheat on my wife with all of the female players I have coached - how jaded of a worldview can you possibly have??? And then to suggest that the men's and women's beach game is so radically different that a male cannot appreciate the differences and intricacies (i.e., relative weakness in your jaded view?) of the women's game would seem to be equally idiotic. Let's see...hmmm... we can hire a female coach who played NVL for a while, or we can hire someone who has an Olympic Gold medal and years of wins on the various domestic and world tours, to say nothing of his ability to help take one of the best beach players ever to a whole different level - what a difficult decision, especially since he will likely molest one of his players!!! I'll be the first to admit that he has often seemed like a sourpuss on the Court thru the years, but you really don't think that the defense he played for 15 years would translate into some pretty important lessons for anyone learning/playing the game at a high level, even a young lady? I'll even go out on a limb here - in the actual world of collegiate and professional volleyball, there might even be a higher risk that a player feels undue "pressure" from a female coach who might prefer the company of someone of her own sex, rather than a male coach. For that reason, do we then automatically exclude Elaine Youngs and Nicole Branagh, et al. from ever coaching a female collegiate beach volleyball squad because of their probable inability to refrain from being a normal human being and not sexually harassing their players? YEESH! Who better to lend their expertise and experience to young players? I don't often get fired up, so thanks for rekindling the passion, Guest2!!!!! First, the idea that there is no bias at play in the fact that around 50% or more of the people coaching women's teams are men, and that 99% of the people coaching men's are men is stupid. Women's sports used to all be coached by women, now more than half are coached by men? Why? What changed? Money. Post Title IX these jobs were in demand and suddenly women couldnt do them anymore? Second, yes if the only thing we are going on is experience then a few years on the NVL playing in women's events is more valuable than 15 years playing against Emmanuel and Ricardo. To dispute that the Men's international game at the highest level. In fact its fair to argue that the competition at the NVL is almost identical to the top level of women's college. So playing women's NVL is learning close to the exact game that you are coaching. To suggest the men's and womens games are not "radically different" is to concede to not understanding either. In particular when you are comparing women's college to FIVB men's. Learning how to dig Emmanuel, Bruno, Ryan Doherty etc. has much less value in the women's college game since no one playing women's college plays like any of those players. Third, I think you mean unsubstantiated, but I know you don't understand what that word means. It is the same as unsupported. I have given several examples but beyond those familiar names and all the rumors that everyone herars, lets look at a sport comparable to women's beach volleyball, women's swimming. I wonder if there is anything in women's swimming relevant to our discussion here? I mean its not like they have banned over 100 coaches in women's swimming or anything. Oh wait, they did? Hmm. Food for thought there. How far astray from your original post you have come, Guest2! First, I offered absolutely no averments regarding whether there is bias in hiring coaches at the collegiate level. Totally different issue. If I remember correctly, you started this inanity with your diatribe about how ill-advised it is to hire Todd Rogers to coach women's collegiate sand volleyball because of the strong likelihood that he would, like most men who coach women, be unable to control himself and would make unwarranted sexual advances toward his players. That contention remains as idiotic today as when you first wrote it several days ago. Second, your statement that "a few years on the NVL playing in women's events is more valuable than 15 years playing against Emmanuel and Ricardo" is equally goofy. When Todd began playing with Dax almost 20 years ago, they got so good that Karch quit off-season training with them because Todd was such a quick study, and they began to challenge (and a few times beat) Karch and whoever his partner du jour was, post Kent Steffes. To suggest that a school should, because of your anti-male coaching stance, hire that NVL level woman because of how close their game is to the level they are now coaching is simply silly. You would rather have an unsuccessful female coach than a world-class male coach simply because of your belief that women should coach women. How sad that our politically correct culture has apparently created such biased and ill-informed people who think that folks should be hired because of their sex and without regard to their skills and experience. Beach volleyball is beach volleyball, and to suggest that Todd has no understanding of the women's game because he is a man is to insult him for no good reason. Third, thanks for teaching me the difference between unsubstantiated and unsupported, or the lack of any distinction between the two. Sure wish I was smart like you! Let me clarify - your baseless, unwarranted, unsubstantiated and unverifiable supposition that in general, male coaches can't control themselves around female players is all of the above, but more to the point, it is just illogical. Whatever examples you can come up with are so clearly outweighed by the hundreds of thousands of male coaches with female teams who act appropriately and selflessly, and they render your initial statements incredibly groundless, arbitrary and capricious. Sorry to use so many adjectives that I clearly don't understand! Seriously, I sincerely hope that you are not a woman who was subjected to unwanted advances from a male authority figure. If you are, then I retract everything I have said and apologize for being so opinionated. I would represent you in a heartbeat in your attempts to have that guy brought to justice. I would also totally understand why you hold the opinions you do. But if you are not, then you are simply someone who prefers pre-judging people by their sex, and actually, now that I think about it, I feel sorry for you in that event as well. |
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Post by guest2 on Feb 20, 2016 8:24:36 GMT -5
How far astray from your original post you have come, Guest2! First, I offered absolutely no averments regarding whether there is bias in hiring coaches at the collegiate level. Totally different issue. If I remember correctly, you started this inanity with your diatribe about how ill-advised it is to hire Todd Rogers to coach women's collegiate sand volleyball because of the strong likelihood that he would, like most men who coach women, be unable to control himself and would make unwarranted sexual advances toward his players. That contention remains as idiotic today as when you first wrote it several days ago. I didnt write that, learn to read.Second, your statement that "a few years on the NVL playing in women's events is more valuable than 15 years playing against Emmanuel and Ricardo" is equally goofy. When Todd began playing with Dax almost 20 years ago, they got so good that Karch quit off-season training with them because Todd was such a quick study, and they began to challenge (and a few times beat) Karch and whoever his partner du jour was, post Kent Steffes. The same thing happened with Troy Tanner/Wes Welch and other teams over the years. Kiraly/Steffes would practice with a team and when that team became a competitor, they would stop practicing with them. It was Kiraly/Steffes' habit not to practice with other top teams. In fact Kiraly practicing with AJ on occasion was a source of some minor frictionTo suggest that a school should, because of your anti-male coaching stance, hire that NVL level woman because of how close their game is to the level they are now coaching is simply silly. You would rather have an unsuccessful female coach than a world-class male coach simply because of your belief that women should coach women. You really dont understand much do you? the primary reason elite male players should not be receiving jobs is they are less familiar with the game than female players - because the games are different. The reason a school should credit top level NVL women over someone like Todd is because those women have played the game they are coaching. Todd has, at best, studied it as an observer. Why did Jason Kidd get a job the first time he was available, whereas it took Spoelstra and the Van Gundy brothers years? Because Kidd was assumed to understand the game from his years as a player. How sad that our politically correct culture has apparently created such biased and ill-informed people who think that folks should be hired because of their sex and without regard to their skills and experience. Beach volleyball is beach volleyball, and to suggest that Todd has no understanding of the women's game because he is a man is to insult him for no good reason. To suggest that Todd has no understanding of the women's game because he is a man would indeed be stupid. However no one has done that. To suggest that Todd lacks the understanding of the women's game that dozens of women do because he has spent the last 15 years focused on the men's game, whereas those women have been focused on the women's game, is an unassailable point.
Todd was hired without regard to skills and experience. He has some experience coaching men indoors and I assume he has done a bunch of clinics etc. like most players but does he:
Know and understand the juniors scene, where he would need to recruit? Have relationships with club coaches? Have a track record of helping girls and women improve? Third, thanks for teaching me the difference between unsubstantiated and unsupported, or the lack of any distinction between the two. Sure wish I was smart like you! Let me clarify - your baseless, unwarranted, unsubstantiated and unverifiable supposition that in general, male coaches can't control themselves around female players is all of the above, but more to the point, it is just illogical. Whatever examples you can come up with are so clearly outweighed by the hundreds of thousands of male coaches with female teams who act appropriately and selflessly, and they render your initial statements incredibly groundless, arbitrary and capricious. Sorry to use so many adjectives that I clearly don't understand! So according to you, male coaches exploiting their female players is not a problem. Its a shame the NCAA, the AAU, ESPN, the NY Times, the National Federation of High School Associations, the USOC, USA Swimming, Swimming Australia, and pretty much every other organization that has looked at the issue at all Seriously, I sincerely hope that you are not a woman who was subjected to unwanted advances from a male authority figure. If you are, then I retract everything I have said and apologize for being so opinionated. I would represent you in a heartbeat in your attempts to have that guy brought to justice. I would also totally understand why you hold the opinions you do. But if you are not, then you are simply someone who prefers pre-judging people by their sex, and actually, now that I think about it, I feel sorry for you in that event as well. You start with an assumption that isnt supported by history or fact, that inappropriate behavior by male coaches is not significant in number or as a problem. Rather than spending five minutes on Google to check on that, you proceed with a bunch of straw man arguments. |
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Post by downtheline on Feb 20, 2016 12:25:49 GMT -5
Dodd is going to be the volunteer assistant at FIU - his youngest daughter is a freshman there. I don't think it's a long term thing. As for the rest of the thread, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell y'all are arguing about. Although I did get a chuckle out of the "Dain is a tactical genius" line. Not that he's clueless - far from it - but he does what Anna tells him to do. I didn't utilizing the word genius, I not sure anyone is a genius at beach volleyball, well maybe Karch in his day or Sinjin, just ask him. However, I do not recall Dain consulting with Anna while he helped steer the kids to some respectable wins at the NYC AVP. And yes after getting spanked by April & Jen in the headlights of their first round, they came back to spank them in the quarters with a new gameplay. I can only assume that he played a role in that, or we could just give the credit to the youngsters. Coaching is a team effort too and Anna is well known as a great training coach with more experience than most. |
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Post by guest2 on Feb 20, 2016 16:17:56 GMT -5
Dodd is going to be the volunteer assistant at FIU - his youngest daughter is a freshman there. I don't think it's a long term thing. As for the rest of the thread, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell y'all are arguing about. Although I did get a chuckle out of the "Dain is a tactical genius" line. Not that he's clueless - far from it - but he does what Anna tells him to do. I didn't utilizing the word genius, I not sure anyone is a genius at beach volleyball, well maybe Karch in his day or Sinjin, just ask him. However, I do not recall Dain consulting with Anna while he helped steer the kids to some respectable wins at the NYC AVP. And yes after getting spanked by April & Jen in the headlights of their first round, they came back to spank them in the quarters with a new gameplay. I can only assume that he played a role in that, or we could just give the credit to the youngsters. Coaching is a team effort too and Anna is well known as a great training coach with more experience than most. If it was just that game then maybe you give credit to the kids, but they also put up an incredible battle against Jen and Emily. I think their strategy in that match was actually pretty poor, but where Dain or Anna or whoever was coaching them deserves a ton of credit is in keeping them focused and believing. I'm not saying all male coaches are bad, or that some won't rise to the top even if all the deserving women get chances, I'm saying that on average they are less prepared. So Dain may be a great women's coach (I have no opinion on him specifically or on Todd) but generally the odds of either being better than the best unemployed female candidate are going to be small, both because of the experience factor and because male candidates have obviously received some preferential treatment in past hiring decisions. |
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Post by beavis on Feb 21, 2016 4:57:01 GMT -5
I OFFICIALLY GIVE UP, GUEST2 - YOU WIN!!! I hereby admit that all of your well-reasoned, unbiased opinions are correct, and I am now convinced that men should simply not coach women, especially if there is a situation where the choice comes down to a male Olympian and a woman, any woman, who wants the job! Here is what did it for me: "I'm not saying that all male coaches are bad, or that SOME won't rise to the top even if all the deserving women get chances - I'm saying that on average, they are less prepared." I mean, who could possibly argue with that completely non-sexist, impartial analysis? Here is what I plan on doing (subject to your approval) to correct the deficiencies in my deeply held, but now I see clearly erroneous, belief that it simply doesn't matter if you are male or female, and that instead, prospective coaches should be judged only by whether they have a hot dog or a bun. Number 1: I plan to petition USA Volleyball to remove Karch Kiraly as Coach of the US Women's Team. I mean, seriously!!! How could they? "On average, (men) are less prepared!!!" What on earth does Karch Kiraly know about WOMEN's volleyball? Number 2: I have submitted my resignation to the inner-city girl's volleyball team that I have been volunteer coaching for the past several years. What on earth do I know about 5-8 grade girl's volleyball? Clearly, the female social studies teacher who has never touched a volleyball in her life should be coaching that team! Never mind that I spent years reffing these inner-city kids and then realized that all I wanted to do was to get off the ref stand and show them how to bump, set and hit a volleyball! Plus, as a 56 year old man, I am finding it harder and harder to control myself around the 8th graders, which I know is typical of any male who finds himself coaching females. Number 3: We are planning to attend 3 or 4 AVP tournaments and the 2 stateside FIVB tourneys this summer. Please be advised that I plan to no longer root for any women's team with a male coach. Who the heck does Andy Ces think he is, coaching his wife and her female teammate??? I mean, perhaps the Molly Menard pulling the plug on her NVL sponsorship rumor is true, and now she is looking for a coaching gig, so how could Andy Ces take a job from an otherwise deserving woman? As a result, I will boycott any women's team who has the audacity to express their inherent right to hire whoever they want to coach them, and instead fails to hire whichever deserving female who wants the job. Lastly, I no longer believe what my dear, departed Grandmother taught us as little kids. You see, she came over not once but twice (they were sent back home the first time) on the boat from Germany, because apparently her native Hungarians, and especially the Jewish ones, were treated incredibly poorly by the Germans. She could not speak a lick of English when she arrived, and was very much mocked, called various names, told to go back home, and basically treated like %*$# for many years. If anyone had a reason to be bitter, it was probably her. But here is what she told us - you will meet all kinds of people in life - different races, different religions, different sexes, different from you in every way. Just remember - none of that matters - there are simply good, nice people, and people who are not so good, and not so nice. But now I see the error of her ways, and I am convinced that you, and not her, are correct - what is important, in the final analysis, is simply if you are male or female. Congratulations, and great job lumping all men together because they are clearly "less prepared" and clearly thus unable to understand, and coach, women's volleyball!!!
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Post by crawdaddy on Feb 21, 2016 10:46:44 GMT -5
I OFFICIALLY GIVE UP, GUEST2 - YOU WIN!!! I hereby admit that all of your well-reasoned, unbiased opinions are correct, and I am now convinced that men should simply not coach women, especially if there is a situation where the choice comes down to a male Olympian and a woman, any woman, who wants the job! Here is what did it for me: "I'm not saying that all male coaches are bad, or that SOME won't rise to the top even if all the deserving women get chances - I'm saying that on average, they are less prepared." I mean, who could possibly argue with that completely non-sexist, impartial analysis? Here is what I plan on doing (subject to your approval) to correct the deficiencies in my deeply held, but now I see clearly erroneous, belief that it simply doesn't matter if you are male or female, and that instead, prospective coaches should be judged only by whether they have a hot dog or a bun. Number 1: I plan to petition USA Volleyball to remove Karch Kiraly as Coach of the US Women's Team. I mean, seriously!!! How could they? "On average, (men) are less prepared!!!" What on earth does Karch Kiraly know about WOMEN's volleyball? Number 2: I have submitted my resignation to the inner-city girl's volleyball team that I have been volunteer coaching for the past several years. What on earth do I know about 5-8 grade girl's volleyball? Clearly, the female social studies teacher who has never touched a volleyball in her life should be coaching that team! Never mind that I spent years reffing these inner-city kids and then realized that all I wanted to do was to get off the ref stand and show them how to bump, set and hit a volleyball! Plus, as a 56 year old man, I am finding it harder and harder to control myself around the 8th graders, which I know is typical of any male who finds himself coaching females. Number 3: We are planning to attend 3 or 4 AVP tournaments and the 2 stateside FIVB tourneys this summer. Please be advised that I plan to no longer root for any women's team with a male coach. Who the heck does Andy Ces think he is, coaching his wife and her female teammate??? I mean, perhaps the Molly Menard pulling the plug on her NVL sponsorship rumor is true, and now she is looking for a coaching gig, so how could Andy Ces take a job from an otherwise deserving woman? As a result, I will boycott any women's team who has the audacity to express their inherent right to hire whoever they want to coach them, and instead fails to hire whichever deserving female who wants the job. Lastly, I no longer believe what my dear, departed Grandmother taught us as little kids. You see, she came over not once but twice (they were sent back home the first time) on the boat from Germany, because apparently her native Hungarians, and especially the Jewish ones, were treated incredibly poorly by the Germans. She could not speak a lick of English when she arrived, and was very much mocked, called various names, told to go back home, and basically treated like %*$# for many years. If anyone had a reason to be bitter, it was probably her. But here is what she told us - you will meet all kinds of people in life - different races, different religions, different sexes, different from you in every way. Just remember - none of that matters - there are simply good, nice people, and people who are not so good, and not so nice. But now I see the error of her ways, and I am convinced that you, and not her, are correct - what is important, in the final analysis, is simply if you are male or female. Congratulations, and great job lumping all men together because they are clearly "less prepared" and clearly thus unable to understand, and coach, women's volleyball!!! I'm enjoying this back-and-forth, but just a few paragraph breaks would be nice on the eyes. |
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Post by beavis on Feb 22, 2016 0:44:24 GMT -5
Sorry Crawfish! HA - stream of consciousness!!!!!
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Post by chicory on Feb 22, 2016 23:24:55 GMT -5
Can we please lock this thread?
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Post by beavis on Feb 23, 2016 11:55:39 GMT -5
What does locking the thread do, Chicory?
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Post by gr8ful on Feb 25, 2016 15:15:33 GMT -5
I OFFICIALLY GIVE UP, GUEST2 - YOU WIN!!! I hereby admit that all of your well-reasoned, unbiased opinions are correct, and I am now convinced that men should simply not coach women, especially if there is a situation where the choice comes down to a male Olympian and a woman, any woman, who wants the job! Here is what did it for me: "I'm not saying that all male coaches are bad, or that SOME won't rise to the top even if all the deserving women get chances - I'm saying that on average, they are less prepared." I mean, who could possibly argue with that completely non-sexist, impartial analysis? Here is what I plan on doing (subject to your approval) to correct the deficiencies in my deeply held, but now I see clearly erroneous, belief that it simply doesn't matter if you are male or female, and that instead, prospective coaches should be judged only by whether they have a hot dog or a bun. Number 1: I plan to petition USA Volleyball to remove Karch Kiraly as Coach of the US Women's Team. I mean, seriously!!! How could they? "On average, (men) are less prepared!!!" What on earth does Karch Kiraly know about WOMEN's volleyball? Number 2: I have submitted my resignation to the inner-city girl's volleyball team that I have been volunteer coaching for the past several years. What on earth do I know about 5-8 grade girl's volleyball? Clearly, the female social studies teacher who has never touched a volleyball in her life should be coaching that team! Never mind that I spent years reffing these inner-city kids and then realized that all I wanted to do was to get off the ref stand and show them how to bump, set and hit a volleyball! Plus, as a 56 year old man, I am finding it harder and harder to control myself around the 8th graders, which I know is typical of any male who finds himself coaching females. Number 3: We are planning to attend 3 or 4 AVP tournaments and the 2 stateside FIVB tourneys this summer. Please be advised that I plan to no longer root for any women's team with a male coach. Who the heck does Andy Ces think he is, coaching his wife and her female teammate??? I mean, perhaps the Molly Menard pulling the plug on her NVL sponsorship rumor is true, and now she is looking for a coaching gig, so how could Andy Ces take a job from an otherwise deserving woman? As a result, I will boycott any women's team who has the audacity to express their inherent right to hire whoever they want to coach them, and instead fails to hire whichever deserving female who wants the job. Lastly, I no longer believe what my dear, departed Grandmother taught us as little kids. You see, she came over not once but twice (they were sent back home the first time) on the boat from Germany, because apparently her native Hungarians, and especially the Jewish ones, were treated incredibly poorly by the Germans. She could not speak a lick of English when she arrived, and was very much mocked, called various names, told to go back home, and basically treated like %*$# for many years. If anyone had a reason to be bitter, it was probably her. But here is what she told us - you will meet all kinds of people in life - different races, different religions, different sexes, different from you in every way. Just remember - none of that matters - there are simply good, nice people, and people who are not so good, and not so nice. But now I see the error of her ways, and I am convinced that you, and not her, are correct - what is important, in the final analysis, is simply if you are male or female. Congratulations, and great job lumping all men together because they are clearly "less prepared" and clearly thus unable to understand, and coach, women's volleyball!!! I'm enjoying this back-and-forth, but just a few paragraph breaks would be nice on the eyes. I didn't read this whole thing, but it looks like a gem dandy, volley on….. |
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Post by ardatak on Apr 15, 2016 14:01:17 GMT -5
I OFFICIALLY GIVE UP, GUEST2 - YOU WIN!!! I hereby admit that all of your well-reasoned, unbiased opinions are correct, and I am now convinced that men should simply not coach women, especially if there is a situation where the choice comes down to a male Olympian and a woman, any woman, who wants the job! Here is what did it for me: "I'm not saying that all male coaches are bad, or that SOME won't rise to the top even if all the deserving women get chances - I'm saying that on average, they are less prepared." I mean, who could possibly argue with that completely non-sexist, impartial analysis? Here is what I plan on doing (subject to your approval) to correct the deficiencies in my deeply held, but now I see clearly erroneous, belief that it simply doesn't matter if you are male or female, and that instead, prospective coaches should be judged only by whether they have a hot dog or a bun. Number 1: I plan to petition USA Volleyball to remove Karch Kiraly as Coach of the US Women's Team. I mean, seriously!!! How could they? "On average, (men) are less prepared!!!" What on earth does Karch Kiraly know about WOMEN's volleyball? Number 2: I have submitted my resignation to the inner-city girl's volleyball team that I have been volunteer coaching for the past several years. What on earth do I know about 5-8 grade girl's volleyball? Clearly, the female social studies teacher who has never touched a volleyball in her life should be coaching that team! Never mind that I spent years reffing these inner-city kids and then realized that all I wanted to do was to get off the ref stand and show them how to bump, set and hit a volleyball! Plus, as a 56 year old man, I am finding it harder and harder to control myself around the 8th graders, which I know is typical of any male who finds himself coaching females. Number 3: We are planning to attend 3 or 4 AVP tournaments and the 2 stateside FIVB tourneys this summer. Please be advised that I plan to no longer root for any women's team with a male coach. Who the heck does Andy Ces think he is, coaching his wife and her female teammate??? I mean, perhaps the Molly Menard pulling the plug on her NVL sponsorship rumor is true, and now she is looking for a coaching gig, so how could Andy Ces take a job from an otherwise deserving woman? As a result, I will boycott any women's team who has the audacity to express their inherent right to hire whoever they want to coach them, and instead fails to hire whichever deserving female who wants the job. Lastly, I no longer believe what my dear, departed Grandmother taught us as little kids. You see, she came over not once but twice (they were sent back home the first time) on the boat from Germany, because apparently her native Hungarians, and especially the Jewish ones, were treated incredibly poorly by the Germans. She could not speak a lick of English when she arrived, and was very much mocked, called various names, told to go back home, and basically treated like %*$# for many years. If anyone had a reason to be bitter, it was probably her. But here is what she told us - you will meet all kinds of people in life - different races, different religions, different sexes, different from you in every way. Just remember - none of that matters - there are simply good, nice people, and people who are not so good, and not so nice. But now I see the error of her ways, and I am convinced that you, and not her, are correct - what is important, in the final analysis, is simply if you are male or female. Congratulations, and great job lumping all men together because they are clearly "less prepared" and clearly thus unable to understand, and coach, women's volleyball!!! Straight Fire !!!! |
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 15, 2016 14:22:55 GMT -5
I don't read the following:
1. loooooong posts
2. posts that don't use the time-honored technique of PARAGRAPHING, especially in long posts
3. posts that contain too many exclamation points!!!!
4. posts that contain too many CAPS
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