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Post by nativevolley on Jul 24, 2016 16:09:25 GMT -5
My friends brother lives in Rio. He said it is bad. I don't know why the IOC selected Rio in the first place. He mentioned that the "government" found dead bodies in the beach volleyball venues. What the freak... Plus all the water and plumbing is not getting any better.
The advertisement is awesome though.
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Post by Northern lights on Jul 24, 2016 16:38:21 GMT -5
We saw the same things in Greece. Unless the IOC is prepared to hold the games in countries like the United States, Canada, Germany or China every time, these things can be expected. Not true. We didn't see water running down the walls when you flushed the toilets there. I suppose that did not happen, but the idea was there were similar concerns and delays. I easily recall the athlete's talking about construction going on around them during the games. While the people of Greece sort of humoured it off, as a long standing tradition in their culture. Greek time they called it.
Rio has the added threat of disease and crime.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 16:40:10 GMT -5
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Post by bigfan on Jul 24, 2016 17:30:00 GMT -5
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Post by bigfan on Jul 24, 2016 17:31:23 GMT -5
The games are going to be a disaster.
Thank goodness the Russians were not totally banned or putin would have piled on with even more trouble.
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Post by bigfan on Jul 24, 2016 17:39:01 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfgang on Jul 24, 2016 18:04:48 GMT -5
I'm just wondering if there's any reason for holding an all-sports event like the Olympics. It's a huge financial gamble for the host city/country -- granted, they go into the venture willingly -- and it encourages extravagance and waste, e.g., construction of new stadiums and arenas and courses, that may never be used again.
I hope the Rio Games pushes the world away from such events.
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2016 18:49:13 GMT -5
I'm just wondering if there's any reason for holding an all-sports event like the Olympics. It's a huge financial gamble for the host city/country -- granted, they go into the venture willingly -- and it encourages extravagance and waste, e.g., construction of new stadiums and arenas and courses, that may never be used again. I hope the Rio Games pushes the world away from such events. When they're held in cities that can handle it, there's no issue. 2020 is Tokyo. Finalists for 2024 include Los Angeles, Paris and Rome. Those will go off without a hitch.
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Post by Northern lights on Jul 24, 2016 19:03:05 GMT -5
Look on the bright side, it can start a new tradition. Every third Olympics the toilets do not work.
Slight edit - lets keep this to the summer games, no toilets in the middle of winter, not good.
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Post by spikeandserve on Jul 24, 2016 19:15:31 GMT -5
One of the selling points for LA2024 is that 97% of the facilities are already existing. Additionally the 84Foundation legacy has given over 220,000,000 over the last 30 years from funds generated in 1984 at the Olympics. Among programs funded is the Southern California tennis association which the Williams sisters participated in when they were kids.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 24, 2016 20:13:20 GMT -5
Every now and then the IOC's and Soccer's governing bodies do something so sleazy, that they open the door and throw a few of their own out to pay the price. Their only constraint is what they can get away with. Do not forget much of this is international law, and subject to a thousand interpretations and arguments.And also unenforceable for the most part. Unlike domestic law, there is no global policeman to crack down and arrest you if you do flout international law. It all depends on the political will. If the violater (usually a country-North Korea, Iran, etc and not people, for int. law) commit some terrible offense that threatens the safety and peace of the international order as a whole, then yes, the UN can step in and issue a resolution demanding compliance or else (sanctions or military action). However, if we are talking about really strong countries (i.e. US, China, Russia) or organizations (IOC, FIFA) then, they can flout international law as they please. Who can stop them?
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Post by vbshrink on Jul 24, 2016 20:41:59 GMT -5
The International Olympic Committee is so corrupt, but who is responsible for keeping them in line? It seemed like they have gotten away with so many. It almost feels like they're untouchable. People said the same about FIFA.
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Post by StanfordFan on Jul 24, 2016 21:47:40 GMT -5
Most modern, developed nations are moving away from wanting to host events like the Olympics because of the expense and the indeterminate economic benefit. Increasingly, countries that want to show their entry to the world, their "coming out party" so to speak are more willing to bear the tremendous burden of an event like the Olympics (see, eg, Beijing 2008).
Don't forget that when Rio was chosen, it was one of the most rapidly developing economies, and one in which every major country wanted to invest (Brazil, Russia, India, China). It would have been hard to predict at the time that by now, Brazil's economy would have collapsed, while mired in political crisis. Sure, you can say it's more likely to happen in Brazil than the US perhaps, but the level and speed at which Brazil collapsed is really quite amazing and unexpected.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 23:31:38 GMT -5
I'm just wondering if there's any reason for holding an all-sports event like the Olympics. It's a huge financial gamble for the host city/country -- granted, they go into the venture willingly -- and it encourages extravagance and waste, e.g., construction of new stadiums and arenas and courses, that may never be used again. I hope the Rio Games pushes the world away from such events. I think that the Olympic Games are one of humanity's greatest inventions. I hope you're wrong.
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