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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 18:46:52 GMT -5
Honest to god, I can't understand so many are picking Kreklow and Cheesehead Jesus. Kreklow was sent packing from the USAV gym and Cheesehead J's only major international accomplishment was to lose her starting job to Hancock in the first match of the Pan Am Cup. ...one of the lowest-level international tournaments in the world. And she didn't even win it. What exactly is Hancock's major international accomplishment? I'd love to know. |
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Post by volleyguy on Sept 4, 2016 19:17:03 GMT -5
Honest to god, I can't understand so many are picking Kreklow and Cheesehead Jesus. Kreklow was sent packing from the USAV gym and Cheesehead J's only major international accomplishment was to lose her starting job to Hancock in the first match of the Pan Am Cup. ...one of the lowest-level international tournaments in the world. And she didn't even win it. What exactly is Hancock's major international accomplishment? I'd love to know. Hancock isn't going to ever be a real factor on the National Team. There are too many others ahead of her in terms of basic setting skills, and her serving and leadership skills are never going to be enough to off-set the first. Carlini's issue seems to be learning to adjust her technique and movement efficiently in order to adjust to the international level. I assume she can do it, although I have no idea how long it will take or what environment will be most conducive. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 20:24:09 GMT -5
...one of the lowest-level international tournaments in the world. And she didn't even win it. What exactly is Hancock's major international accomplishment? I'd love to know. Hancock isn't going to ever be a real factor on the National Team. There are too many others ahead of her in terms of basic setting skills, and her serving and leadership skills are never going to be enough to off-set the first. Carlini's issue seems to be learning to adjust her technique and movement efficiently in order to adjust to the international level. I assume she can do it, although I have no idea how long it will take or what environment will be most conducive. Issue? Are we confident that there IS an issue...? She trained for a couple weeks in the summer after her freshman year, but she wasn't ever training FOR something. Played in a couple Red/Blue scrimmages. Did a pretty nice job, from what I understand. Got lots of positive feedback from Karch. Her next stint was this past summer playing in the Pan Am Cup. It was pretty clear from the get-go that the level of competition was very low (especially from a reception point-of-view) and Hancock's serve gave the team 3-4 opportunities per set to score immediate points. Since they ended up not being a strong receiving or pin attacking team, the staff chose points over the things that Carlini could do as a playmaker. Hancock's 10+ aces per match simply gave the team a better chance at winning when combined with all their other weaknesses. Carlini referenced not enjoying being a back-up, pressing too hard in her new role and ended up doing more than she should have, but I don't know if that means that she has technique/adjustment/movement/efficiency issues. |
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Post by volleyguy on Sept 4, 2016 20:30:38 GMT -5
Hancock isn't going to ever be a real factor on the National Team. There are too many others ahead of her in terms of basic setting skills, and her serving and leadership skills are never going to be enough to off-set the first. Carlini's issue seems to be learning to adjust her technique and movement efficiently in order to adjust to the international level. I assume she can do it, although I have no idea how long it will take or what environment will be most conducive. Issue? Are we confident that there IS an issue...? She trained for a couple weeks in the summer after her freshman year, but she wasn't ever training FOR something. Played in a couple Red/Blue scrimmages. Did a pretty nice job, from what I understand. Got lots of positive feedback from Karch. Her next stint was this past summer playing in the Pan Am Cup. It was pretty clear from the get-go that the level of competition was very low (especially from a reception point-of-view) and Hancock's serve gave the team 3-4 opportunities per set to score immediate points. Since they ended up not being a strong receiving or pin attacking team, the staff chose points over the things that Carlini could do as a playmaker. Hancock's 10+ aces per match simply gave the team a better chance at winning when combined with all their other weaknesses. Carlini referenced not enjoying being a back-up, pressing too hard in her new role and ended up doing more than she should have, but I don't know if that means that she has technique/adjustment/movement/efficiency issues. What I'm referring to is the issue of adjusting to the demands that different coaches might place on her in regards to her setting--whether it's the national team or a professional club team. They inevitably do make such demands, and how she adjusts to that will be a big factor in determining how she progresses. |
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Post by HappyVolley on Sept 5, 2016 11:14:17 GMT -5
Honest to god, I can't understand so many are picking Kreklow and Cheesehead Jesus. Kreklow was sent packing from the USAV gym and Cheesehead J's only major international accomplishment was to lose her starting job to Hancock in the first match of the Pan Am Cup. ...one of the lowest-level international tournaments in the world. And she didn't even win it. What exactly is Hancock's major international accomplishment? I'd love to know. She took the starting job from Cheesehead Jesus in the first match of the Pan Am Cup. I'm pretty sure CJ regarded that as a significant event. |
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 5, 2016 12:45:07 GMT -5
I would pick Lauren Carlini. Not that I am biased or anything. I hope the US develops some elite 6 rotation outsides to be effective at that level of competition, but I am not seein a lot of those out there. It doesn't help that the top two from the last college season, in my opinion, were Bricio and Santana.
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Post by 5280volleyball on Sept 7, 2016 0:13:31 GMT -5
If Larson stays around, and Kim Hill continues improving (remember she played opposite as a senior at Pepperdine before helping the beach team win a title), then the Americans are fine on the pins. Robinson's attacking should continue improving, and I've always liked Krista Vansant. If Robinson/Vansant keep making strides, pins won't be an issue as we'll be 4 deep at OH. I think Lowe could be something special on the right as well.
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Sept 9, 2016 9:47:59 GMT -5
Players with the intensity of Mihajlovic and Boskovic--find them.
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Post by gopherfan81 on Sept 22, 2016 23:04:44 GMT -5
Vansant may have retired...
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Post by vup on Sept 23, 2016 1:12:58 GMT -5
Vansant may have retired... more info? link? |
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Post by gopherfan81 on Sept 23, 2016 7:43:53 GMT -5
Vansant may have retired... more info? link? Total speculation. I don't think she has announced anything, but she is the newly named Program Assistant at UW. Also no mention of USA Volleyball on social media in a long time, much has been deleted. Maybe a break, but clearly not playing internationally or in Anaheim currently. |
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Post by vbnerd on Sept 26, 2016 11:13:23 GMT -5
A) We talked about this before Rio. Kim Hill wasn't on the 2016 radar until February of 2013, or in 2020 terms, 5 months from now. She wasn't even an OH at this point last quad. Going into the 2012 season Karsta Lowe had 53 kills in college. In terms of 2020 WE DON"T KNOW ANYTHING YET.
B) Carlini started one match for Team USA, while wearing Nikki Taylor's street shoes that were 2 sizes too big. USA won that match. If you think that cost her anything in the eyes of USA Volleyball you are nuts.
C) Alhassan was in the gym this summer. Now she's in college. We flirted with a program that trained players full time instead of college and that was Tracy Stalls, who then went to Nebraska. I don't believe we've had a female player leave early to turn pro since and I wouldn't anticipate it in this quad. Alhassan is developing just fine so far and I'd look for her to continue to get opportunities.
D) Ebony is at Texas. She is not going to get any better at volleyball until she moves on. And with a back injury that took her about 2 years to recover from, there's a chance nobody is going to want to invest a lot in her development after college.
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Sept 26, 2016 11:44:36 GMT -5
A) We talked about this before Rio. Kim Hill wasn't on the 2016 radar until February of 2013, or in 2020 terms, 5 months from now. She wasn't even an OH at this point last quad. Going into the 2012 season Karsta Lowe had 53 kills in college. In terms of 2020 WE DON"T KNOW ANYTHING YET. B) Carlini started one match for Team USA, while wearing Nikki Taylor's street shoes that were 2 sizes too big. USA won that match. If you think that cost her anything in the eyes of USA Volleyball you are nuts. C) Alhassan was in the gym this summer. Now she's in college. We flirted with a program that trained players full time instead of college and that was Tracy Stalls, who then went to Nebraska. I don't believe we've had a female player leave early to turn pro since and I wouldn't anticipate it in this quad. Alhassan is developing just fine so far and I'd look for her to continue to get opportunities. D) Ebony is at Texas. She is not going to get any better at volleyball until she moves on. And with a back injury that took her about 2 years to recover from, there's a chance nobody is going to want to invest a lot in her development after college. Ebony has 4.36 KPS hitting .368. I think plenty of people will want to invest in her. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 14:03:56 GMT -5
To everyone who complains when threads like this are started because it’s too early..
THIS is why they’re fun.
Today we found out the actual 2020 Olympic team, and it’s crazy how wildly different it is than most predicted.
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Post by HappyVolley on Aug 6, 2021 17:55:44 GMT -5
...one of the lowest-level international tournaments in the world. And she didn't even win it. What exactly is Hancock's major international accomplishment? I'd love to know. Hancock isn't going to ever be a real factor on the National Team. There are too many others ahead of her in terms of basic setting skills, and her serving and leadership skills are never going to be enough to off-set the first. Carlini's issue seems to be learning to adjust her technique and movement efficiently in order to adjust to the international level. I assume she can do it, although I have no idea how long it will take or what environment will be most conducive. Just thought I'd leave this here. |
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