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Post by volleyballjim on Mar 15, 2017 11:28:24 GMT -5
Kind of agree that too many VT'ers judge people "without walking in their moccasins"...I think rule changes are a quandry as almost ALL Old-schoolers HATE the new rules (btw, that ship "sailed in early 2000, SEVENTEEN years ago or so)...In Santa Cruz, they still often play with the old Spalding, and deem its merits thought "any pro" will tell you the Wilson is a superior ball...Kerri is very professional and lives and breathes that and often has to "follow that tack". FIVB is still the 800lb gorilla as we speak, so I COULD see an objection to rule changes at the AVP that might affect how the game is played and how you change your play to accommodat such....YES, even a net rule change makes your serve vector "a bit different", and do you want to get that into your beach DNA and then switch back the next weekend? For we weekend warriors, no big deal, to those who devote their life to the sport, probably not...
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Post by greenpier on Mar 15, 2017 11:48:12 GMT -5
Kind of agree that too many VT'ers judge people "without walking in their moccasins"....YES, even a net rule change makes your serve vector "a bit different", and do you want to get that into your beach DNA and then switch back the next weekend? For we weekend warriors, no big deal, to those who devote their life to the sport, probably not... Fair enough. But you have to admit that her not showing up 2 weeks after the 2016 Brazil games to play in a televised Chicago event when interest in beach volleyball was still at a all time World Wide high was totally stupid and selfish.
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Post by haze on Mar 15, 2017 18:47:11 GMT -5
I'm sure Kerri and April have talked about the commitments with their partnership this year, but that would suck for April to be playing FIVB with Kerri and then having to makeshift her way through the AVP because Kerri doesn't feel like playing them for whatever reason, if that is even true.
No wonder why the Beach Volleyball scene in the United States is so messed up and on the verge of extinction.
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Post by guest2 on Mar 16, 2017 5:34:29 GMT -5
I'm sure Kerri and April have talked about the commitments with their partnership this year, but that would suck for April to be playing FIVB with Kerri and then having to makeshift her way through the AVP because Kerri doesn't feel like playing them for whatever reason, if that is even true. No wonder why the Beach Volleyball scene in the United States is so messed up and on the verge of extinction. I don't think its likely to happen, but it is a very interesting scenario. The last couple years, Kerri's absence hasn't mattered. April could pick up a partner and win anyway. Now I am not so sure. Tour is getting stronger. I wonder if it generates more acrimony when Kerri's absence cost April real money and a lot of wins (again doubt it happens but an interesting dynamic)
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Post by volleyballjim on Mar 16, 2017 12:08:05 GMT -5
I think a lot of this discussion of Kerri's absence is following a trend in our lives these days: Conjecture over data. See, no one here has said WHY or asked Kerri or had at least a "close relationship" and "heard her comments". Kind of a red v. blue state discussion. More of a "If I were Kerri, I would have played Chicago"... What we DO know is that April is currently aligned with Kerri, so that IS data and compelling at that.
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Post by tree on Mar 16, 2017 23:26:15 GMT -5
I think people here are taking things too personal. The fact of the matter is that this is the players living we are talking about. It is a business. The players owe us nothing.When they take pictures and sign autographs that is their choice and of course it helps their image too. The fact of the matter is that they are in this to make money just like everyone else does at their work.Everyone on here keeps bringing up Kerri's age. Maybe she needs more time off then when she was younger for her body to stay healthy. Kerri has worked hard for what she has for years to earn the money she made if she wants time off to rest or spend it with her three kids after a long Olympic season she has earned the right. Maybe the people who are calling her selfish should look in the mirror. She is a player it is not her job to keep the AVP running.Besides when she is not there other teams have a chance to win some money, not totally bad and fans get a chance to see other talent . Where did this story about her not playing in any AVP events come from? Is it even true or just more fake news. In this day and age it is hard to tell.
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Post by greenpier on Mar 17, 2017 17:19:06 GMT -5
The players owe us nothing. Maybe the people who are calling her selfish should look in the mirror. She is a player it is not her job to keep the AVP running. Besides when she is not there other teams have a chance to win some money, not totally bad and fans get a chance to see other talent . Kerri is the most famous active woman beach volleyball player in the world. She is idolized by millions of young girls all over the world. When she does not play (skipping Chicago for no reason at all) she is hurting the sport. Many people only attend or watch beach volleyball because of her.
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Post by volleyballjim on Mar 17, 2017 18:15:12 GMT -5
greenpier: What you said is logical it just is not true...Kerri is not responsible for "doing what we would like her to do". She is not a 23 year old grad student, but a mother of 3 probably semi-preparing for live afterwards...Her absence even increases the demand for her presence. But as tree said, she owes nothing and is actually very grateful for what she has gotten from this sport...Look to other sports like baseball where an "entry player" is guaranteed multiple 6 figures and doesn't sign autographs or the like, not here in beach, it "is" a family but nobody owes nobody.
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Post by mongoliavolleyball on Mar 18, 2017 2:29:09 GMT -5
Let Kerri speak for her self...
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Post by greenpier on Mar 18, 2017 14:27:37 GMT -5
But as tree said, she owes nothing and is actually very grateful for what she has gotten from this sport... Look at all my posts on this thread I have never said anybody owes somebody something, those are your words.......................Kerri acted like a spoiled selfish brat boycotting a event held on American soil (Chicago) shortly after getting free world wide coverage in the Olympics when interest in the American Beach volleyball was at a all time high world wide.
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Post by volleyballjim on Mar 19, 2017 20:25:18 GMT -5
greenpier: The specific boycott of Chicago was based on the rules, if I recall correctly (it was the last event; AVP changed the rules for that). I covered that in an earlier post, but that boycott was just to challenge the fact of the AVP controlling the rules of a game where the rules are fairly set in stone since 2000ish, so I can see her objection...She makes her living playing under one set of rules...
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Post by crawdaddy on Mar 20, 2017 17:05:30 GMT -5
Does anybody really think Kerri's Chicago boycott was because of the rule changes? I think she was totally burnt out by the brutal lead up to the Olympics and the stress of the two weeks in Rio and just needed a physical and mental break. Pretty understandable, particularly for a mother of three. If she had just faked an injury (stomach muscle is always a good one) like every other professional athlete, instead of using this rules thing as an excuse, nobody would have blinked.
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Post by bill on Mar 20, 2017 18:18:27 GMT -5
She just told Bill Walton on ESPN that she's going for gold. she's dreaming
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Mar 20, 2017 18:25:02 GMT -5
Does anybody really think Kerri's Chicago boycott was because of the rule changes? I think she was totally burnt out by the brutal lead up to the Olympics and the stress of the two weeks in Rio and just needed a physical and mental break. Pretty understandable, particularly for a mother of three. If she had just faked an injury (stomach muscle is always a good one) like every other professional athlete, instead of using this rules thing as an excuse, nobody would have blinked. Yes, I do.
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Post by greenpier on Mar 20, 2017 19:30:45 GMT -5
greenpier: The specific boycott of Chicago was based on the rules, if I recall correctly (it was the last event; AVP changed the rules for that). I covered that in an earlier post, but that boycott was just to challenge the fact of the AVP controlling the rules of a game where the rules are fairly set in stone since 2000ish, so I can see her objection...She makes her living playing under one set of rules... fair enough. American beach volleyball is short on internationally known beach volleyball superstars these days, Kerri is the biggest one.
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