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Post by TheReignman on Apr 21, 2020 9:48:53 GMT -5
To follow this up there were 6 freshman named All-American this year. Pretty impactful. Reignman, I would agree strongly this years freshman class was very impactful. I have not been following D3 for very long. How would this years group rate compared to the last 5 years?
Does anyone want to take a stab at ranking the last few years classes. I am very curious to see what you think.
2013 would be another year that sticks out to me. All the New Paltz studs (Smith, Husmann, Ferriter) Tim Zyburt from Naz and Vega at Springfield.
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Post by jinglingjoe on Apr 21, 2020 13:45:27 GMT -5
In terms of players such as shorts, grace, brandow, woessner, ayala, reinsel, shankweiler, lehman, and others you are looking at 1-2 freshmen per class that have a big impact on d3 as a whole. Others come in and have impacts on their team but its more localized and not a landscape alteration. But if you were looking at the impact of every class and going through it you would basically see a downward trend-line where it progresses from seniors having the highest impact and freshmen having the lowest. Thinking a class is going to come in and completely shake things up is just statistically improbable if you analyze any of the past data. Statistically you aren't going to see more than two freshman, more likely one, make an all american list (gauge importance on your own we know the committee is not the greatest). You are not going to see a freshman be the best player in their position. You statistically are not going to see a team starting 3-4 freshman make it far in the post season. However, there are always exceptions, but those are the statistical anomalies not the other way around. Of course you cannot just go off of numbers the eye test factors as well, hence why I left Alex Li off of my list in terms of impactful freshmen from recent memory. Gavin will not be the best middle in d3 both eye test and statistically. Dasari is not going to carry NYU to a UVC championship. The influx of a singular freshman outside does not change the ways of a team that statistically chokes, especially when they do not lose a single player. He does pass the eye test for the most part so if he breaks the starting lineup he could find some personal success. Springfield has the best chance of being a statistical anomaly this year, but as I have argued before I do not see it happening. In totality the freshmen class is the least impactful. Majority will not start on their teams, minority will have impact on their teams success, and 1 or 2 will impact d3 as a whole. To follow this up there were 6 freshman named All-American this year. Pretty impactful. As stated, statistical anomaly, as is this season which skews the data. Impressive for the class, but most of what I said about the class was accurate outside of the number of all Americans. I still would say there were only 2 that truly impacted all of d3, Gavin and Anderson. There’s too many questions surrounding Rutgers Newark to answer if they’re legit yet and the nc outside isn’t d3 impactful as they still got trashed on their east coast trip. What surprised me the most was the pettiness to go back and attempt to prove ur points correct in a season that wasn’t even completed. Kind of sad, maybe I should go back through your recruiting classes and see how many players you hit on. Haha just kidding I’m not that petty ;^).
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Post by supremewaffle on Apr 21, 2020 17:44:20 GMT -5
To follow this up there were 6 freshman named All-American this year. Pretty impactful. As stated, statistical anomaly, as is this season which skews the data. Impressive for the class, but most of what I said about the class was accurate outside of the number of all Americans. I still would say there were only 2 that truly impacted all of d3, Gavin and Anderson. There’s too many questions surrounding Rutgers Newark to answer if they’re legit yet and the nc outside isn’t d3 impactful as they still got trashed on their east coast trip. What surprised me the most was the pettiness to go back and attempt to prove ur points correct in a season that wasn’t even completed. Kind of sad, maybe I should go back through your recruiting classes and see how many players you hit on. Haha just kidding I’m not that petty ;^). lmaooooo
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Post by springfielddog on Apr 22, 2020 9:14:50 GMT -5
Coming soon, MAC all conference awards decided by a player run voting poll. Will be out shortly. clsmiles52.wixsite.com/mysitehere we go to anyone interested C l smiley looks awful familiar...
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Post by TheReignman on Apr 22, 2020 11:43:27 GMT -5
To follow this up there were 6 freshman named All-American this year. Pretty impactful. As stated, statistical anomaly, as is this season which skews the data. Impressive for the class, but most of what I said about the class was accurate outside of the number of all Americans. I still would say there were only 2 that truly impacted all of d3, Gavin and Anderson. There’s too many questions surrounding Rutgers Newark to answer if they’re legit yet and the nc outside isn’t d3 impactful as they still got trashed on their east coast trip. What surprised me the most was the pettiness to go back and attempt to prove ur points correct in a season that wasn’t even completed. Kind of sad, maybe I should go back through your recruiting classes and see how many players you hit on. Haha just kidding I’m not that petty ;^). I'm sorry you feel this way jinglinjoe. Since you are so ready to throw opinions and personal attacks out from behind a wall of anonymity, I thought you might want to answer for a point you pushed during the discussion about this season. As for my recruiting classes, I am DAMN PROUD of the student-athletes I have brought in, and the quality young men they have become/are becoming. So feel free to print and read the receipts. Stay safe and healthy.
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Post by wavepops on Apr 26, 2020 20:15:56 GMT -5
Reignman, I would agree strongly this years freshman class was very impactful. I have not been following D3 for very long. How would this years group rate compared to the last 5 years?
Does anyone want to take a stab at ranking the last few years classes. I am very curious to see what you think.
2013 would be another year that sticks out to me. All the New Paltz studs (Smith, Husmann, Ferriter) Tim Zyburt from Naz and Vega at Springfield. Yeah, It seemed 2013 class had some players with 6 years of eligibility each. 2020's class will have to put in some serious work to be included with that class, but I think the potential is there. Unlike "statistical anomaly" guy thinks. It seems like you got a firm grip on this Reignman. Do you think the 2021 class will have a hard time finding the court with some schools rosters probably at a all-time high levels at major programs? Are there any 2021 boys coming in that can have a immediate impact on a major program like these 6 freshmen did?
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Post by d3vballer on Apr 27, 2020 12:01:33 GMT -5
2013 would be another year that sticks out to me. All the New Paltz studs (Smith, Husmann, Ferriter) Tim Zyburt from Naz and Vega at Springfield. Yeah, It seemed 2013 class had some players with 6 years of eligibility each. 2020's class will have to put in some serious work to be included with that class, but I think the potential is there. Unlike "statistical anomaly" guy thinks. It seems like you got a firm grip on this Reignman. Do you think the 2021 class will have a hard time finding the court with some schools rosters probably at a all-time high levels at major programs? Are there any 2021 boys coming in that can have a immediate impact on a major program like these 6 freshmen did?
It is inevitable that the class of 2021 will have a hard time finding the court. Now competing with guys that have 0-4 years in a program rather than 0-3 years. In addition, they're already on pace to graduate with last years freshmen (assuming those freshmen exercise their right to a fifth year). Also a tough situation for last years freshmen/sophomores/juniors who were expecting to fall into a role that is now re-filled by a senior from last year. Stinks for kids in these situations but nevertheless, the NCAA did the right thing.
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Post by TheReignman on Apr 27, 2020 12:51:19 GMT -5
2013 would be another year that sticks out to me. All the New Paltz studs (Smith, Husmann, Ferriter) Tim Zyburt from Naz and Vega at Springfield. Yeah, It seemed 2013 class had some players with 6 years of eligibility each. 2020's class will have to put in some serious work to be included with that class, but I think the potential is there. Unlike "statistical anomaly" guy thinks. It seems like you got a firm grip on this Reignman. Do you think the 2021 class will have a hard time finding the court with some schools rosters probably at a all-time high levels at major programs? Are there any 2021 boys coming in that can have a immediate impact on a major program like these 6 freshmen did? Best bets in my book are the two following: Tyler Goldsborough - Juniata Austin Richards - Springfield
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Post by volleyfan531 on Apr 27, 2020 15:37:22 GMT -5
Any more transfer news that coaches would like to share?
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Post by bnice2refs on Apr 27, 2020 21:23:49 GMT -5
Yeah, It seemed 2013 class had some players with 6 years of eligibility each. 2020's class will have to put in some serious work to be included with that class, but I think the potential is there. Unlike "statistical anomaly" guy thinks. It seems like you got a firm grip on this Reignman. Do you think the 2021 class will have a hard time finding the court with some schools rosters probably at a all-time high levels at major programs? Are there any 2021 boys coming in that can have a immediate impact on a major program like these 6 freshmen did?
It is inevitable that the class of 2021 will have a hard time finding the court. Now competing with guys that have 0-4 years in a program rather than 0-3 years. In addition, they're already on pace to graduate with last years freshmen (assuming those freshmen exercise their right to a fifth year). Also a tough situation for last years freshmen/sophomores/juniors who were expecting to fall into a role that is now re-filled by a senior from last year. Stinks for kids in these situations but nevertheless, the NCAA did the right thing. I totally agree that NCAA did the right thing. If any 2021's break through and have a impact on a major level, they will have to be ballers!
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Post by TheReignman on Apr 28, 2020 16:08:24 GMT -5
Short video feature on Tevin Skeete from New Paltz by NCAA D3. Really cool /?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e
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Post by jackson5vb on Apr 28, 2020 21:57:49 GMT -5
It is inevitable that the class of 2021 will have a hard time finding the court. Now competing with guys that have 0-4 years in a program rather than 0-3 years. In addition, they're already on pace to graduate with last years freshmen (assuming those freshmen exercise their right to a fifth year). Also a tough situation for last years freshmen/sophomores/juniors who were expecting to fall into a role that is now re-filled by a senior from last year. Stinks for kids in these situations but nevertheless, the NCAA did the right thing. I totally agree that NCAA did the right thing. However the HS 2021's got screwed on so many levels. Almost all(except NY?) completely lost their entire HS and 1/2 of their club season at a very,very crucial developmental age. Combine this with what d3vballer just said above is unfortunate. On the other hand, I must admit I am looking forward to a potentially epic D3 season with the most unanswered questions ever. If any 2021's break through and have a impact on a major level, they will have to be ballers!
wouldn't the 2020's have a harder time getting on the court than the 2021's?
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Post by coug94 on Apr 28, 2020 23:19:16 GMT -5
I totally agree that NCAA did the right thing. However the HS 2021's got screwed on so many levels. Almost all(except NY?) completely lost their entire HS and 1/2 of their club season at a very,very crucial developmental age. Combine this with what d3vballer just said above is unfortunate. On the other hand, I must admit I am looking forward to a potentially epic D3 season with the most unanswered questions ever. If any 2021's break through and have a impact on a major level, they will have to be ballers!
wouldn't the 2020's have a harder time getting on the court than the 2021's? I had to re-read his comment. I think what he’s comparing is the High School grad class of 2021 missing this 17s season, but earlier was talking about the 2021 college season (which are the high school grad class of 2020). I think the 2020 is the worst off because of the extra yr/seniors returning, and harder to see playing time as a Freshman and then their Sophomore year they’re almost on an equal footing as the incoming Freshman.
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Post by jackson5vb on Apr 29, 2020 0:16:46 GMT -5
wouldn't the 2020's have a harder time getting on the court than the 2021's? I had to re-read his comment. I think what he’s comparing is the High School grad class of 2021 missing this 17s season, but earlier was talking about the 2021 college season (which are the high school grad class of 2020). I think the 2020 is the worst off because of the extra yr/seniors returning, and harder to see playing time as a Freshman and then their Sophomore year they’re almost on an equal footing as the incoming Freshman. that's exactly my opinion too!
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Post by bnice2refs on Apr 29, 2020 1:33:53 GMT -5
I totally agree that NCAA did the right thing. However the HS 2021's got screwed on so many levels. Almost all(except NY?) completely lost their entire HS and 1/2 of their club season at a very,very crucial developmental age. Combine this with what d3vballer just said above is unfortunate. On the other hand, I must admit I am looking forward to a potentially epic D3 season with the most unanswered questions ever. If any 2021's break through and have a impact on a major level, they will have to be ballers!
wouldn't the 2020's have a harder time getting on the court than the 2021's? Sorry for the confusion. I miss spoke. Sorry.
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