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Post by mikegarrison on May 4, 2020 14:22:05 GMT -5
The point remains: people come from lots of places, gather in one place for a while, and then return to the various places they came from. This is *ideal* for spreading around a pandemic.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 14:27:35 GMT -5
I mean, if everyone stays in their room, yes. But the whole point of a cruise is hundreds of strangers from all over the place congregate in a small, enclosed space for a week with tons of interaction, and then head back to where they came from. Well, there are lots of people but you never feel crowded. You can easily separate yourself from the herd by at least 6 ft. Also, lots of old folks populate cruises, so most of them are in their rooms (or "cabins" or "staterooms," as they like to call them). In the public areas, they're pretty open and spacious. Finally, if you elect to stay on the ship while the ship is docked at some port, most people are out on the town in shore excursions so the ship is practically empty. You've got it all to yourself. Plus 10-15 fall or are thrown overboard every cruise, so that opens up a little room.
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Post by hammer on May 4, 2020 14:38:36 GMT -5
I mean, if everyone stays in their room, yes. But the whole point of a cruise is hundreds of strangers from all over the place congregate in a small, enclosed space for a week with tons of interaction, and then head back to where they came from. Well, there are lots of people but you never feel crowded. You can easily separate yourself from the herd by at least 6 ft. Also, lots of old folks populate cruises, so most of them are in their rooms (or "cabins" or "staterooms," as they like to call them). In the public areas, they're pretty open and spacious. Finally, if you elect to stay on the ship while the ship is docked at some port, most people are out on the town in shore excursions so the ship is practically empty. You've got it all to yourself. I'm guessing the biggest issue is not the passengers, but the crews working close together and crews' quarters. If the wrong crew member becomes infected, they can become a super spreader.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 4, 2020 15:11:36 GMT -5
The only problem we've had on cruise ships is not really a "problem." The cruise feeds you so well -- and the food is incredible in quality, quantity, and variety -- that you don't even bother eating the local cuisine when you go on shore. My family and I found it difficult to take in the local cuisine because we're either too stuffed from the cruise food or we're anticipating some theme dinner/lunch on board. It's really a shame not to eat real Italian food in Italy or real Spanish food in Spain, but that's what we encountered. Obviously, we could but we spent most of our time on shore actually sightseeing rather than eating. Also, if you wanted to pack lunch, you could.
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Post by n00b on May 4, 2020 15:52:28 GMT -5
The point remains: people come from lots of places, gather in one place for a while, and then return to the various places they came from. This is *ideal* for spreading around a pandemic. I wonder if this is overstated now that the virus is so widespread. 2 months ago, the virus was rare enough that the goal was to prevent spread to a certain geographic region. People could get infected on the cruise. But I think it’s unlikely that they then bring it back to an otherwise-noninfected area.
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Post by hammer on May 4, 2020 17:39:07 GMT -5
The point remains: people come from lots of places, gather in one place for a while, and then return to the various places they came from. This is *ideal* for spreading around a pandemic. I wonder if this is overstated now that the virus is so widespread. 2 months ago, the virus was rare enough that the goal was to prevent spread to a certain geographic region. People could get infected on the cruise. But I think it’s unlikely that they then bring it back to an otherwise-noninfected area. The SARS boat, exciting and new Come aboard, we'll spread it for you ...
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Post by XAsstCoach on May 4, 2020 19:59:56 GMT -5
The SARS boat, exciting and new Come aboard, we'll spread it for you ... Oh, geez!
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Post by hammer on May 5, 2020 17:13:04 GMT -5
The SARS boat, exciting and new Come aboard, we'll spread it for you ... Oh, geez! The SARS boat soon will be making another run The SARS boat promises infection for everyone ...
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Post by Wolfgang on May 5, 2020 17:29:10 GMT -5
Oh, geez! The SARS boat soon will be making another run The SARS boat promises infection for everyone ...You're no Jack Jones, buddy! Here's Seth MacFarlane imitating the legend, Jack Jones:
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Post by hammer on May 5, 2020 18:33:20 GMT -5
The SARS boat soon will be making another run The SARS boat promises infection for everyone ... You're no Jack Jones, buddy! Here's Seth MacFarlane imitating the legend, Jack Jones: SARS won't hurt anymore It's a body bag on any shore ...
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Post by mikegarrison on May 5, 2020 21:26:23 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfgang on May 10, 2020 15:00:58 GMT -5
Well, there are no lines anywhere. All the grocery stores I frequent (e.g., Sprouts, Trader Joe's COSTCO, Safeway, Smart & Final, 99 Ranch, Indian stores) have NO lines. Yesterday, I walked into COSTCO directly from my car, walked around to get my stuff, and at the check-out line, I was the first (and only) one.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 11, 2020 14:41:06 GMT -5
From the redundancy department:
I saw a sign at an Indian grocery store:
"Stand in line SIX 6' FEET when standing in line."
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Post by WahineFan44 on May 11, 2020 16:31:36 GMT -5
Well, there are no lines anywhere. All the grocery stores I frequent (e.g., Sprouts, Trader Joe's COSTCO, Safeway, Smart & Final, 99 Ranch, Indian stores) have NO lines. Yesterday, I walked into COSTCO directly from my car, walked around to get my stuff, and at the check-out line, I was the first (and only) one. Costco here on Oahu has had lines outside the door everyday since this started. Sams club however has been a breeze. I have both so I have been going to sams club but I do miss Costco lol
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Post by XAsstCoach on May 12, 2020 2:28:23 GMT -5
Shanghai Disney has re-opened since Monday. Limited to 25,000 visitors daily, and tickets must be purchased in advance.
Daily capacity used to be 80,000...didn't think it was that much. But then again when family visited a couple of years back they had to stand in line for 3 hours just for one ride...the TRON ride. Needless to say, that was the only ride they went on the entire day...too hot and too many people. I walked around the village that day, not bad. And they have the only Cheesecake Factory in town. Maybe in all of mainland China.
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