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Post by holidayhusker on May 12, 2020 2:38:31 GMT -5
Shanghai Disney has re-opened since Monday. Limited to 25,000 visitors daily, and tickets must be purchased in advance. Daily capacity used to be 80,000...didn't think it was that much. But then again when family visited a couple of years back they had to stand in line for 3 hours just for one ride...the TRON ride. Needless to say, that was the only ride they went on the entire day...too hot and too many people. I walked around the village that day, not bad. And they have the only Cheesecake Factory in town. Maybe in all of mainland China. How ironic that the very country that caused the worldwide pandemic, is now open and making money.
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Post by XAsstCoach on May 12, 2020 3:52:48 GMT -5
How ironic that the very country that caused the worldwide pandemic, is now open and making money. That's one way to look at it. Or, you can look at it as there is light at the end of the tunnel. Yes, China is slowly getting back to business as usual. I wouldn't go as far as saying the country is making money. I'd bet the gov't is burning cash trying to keep the economy going by reducing some financial burden for several months. For example, the employer would not need to contribute to the employees' retirement funds from February through June. In the US, may not be much but in China, or specifically Shanghai, that's about 32% of the employee's salary. The gov't has also reduced tax burden on the companies so that the employers can keep paying the employees a salary throughout the crisis. Ironically, this Communist/Socialist government did not once send out a relief check to every citizen. Burden was put on the employers, but help was also given through other means. Shoot, we didn't even have to pay tolls for the highway for several months. If you want to say the pandemic started here, you won't get an argument from me. Spread prevention wasn't handled well, I agree. The central gov't should have done more to regulate people going overseas from other placed outside Hubei province. But if you want to criticize China for getting back to some form of normalcy, can't agree with you there. Everyone I talked to in the US, Japan, Korea, Australia, Europe...we all long for normalcy and they appreciated some pictures I would send of a crowded Costco, or a busy shopping mall. And that's because everyone wanted to know how everything turned out. It wasn't an easy road to get to this point and in the mean time the world economy came to a complete stand still, if not near collapse. That's not helping Uncle Mao either. Hang in there holiday, I feel your pain/frustration because been through it before and can only say it will get better. Did your test come back negative?
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Post by holidayhusker on May 12, 2020 6:04:12 GMT -5
How ironic that the very country that caused the worldwide pandemic, is now open and making money. That's one way to look at it. Or, you can look at it as there is light at the end of the tunnel. Yes, China is slowly getting back to business as usual. I wouldn't go as far as saying the country is making money. I'd bet the gov't is burning cash trying to keep the economy going by reducing some financial burden for several months. For example, the employer would not need to contribute to the employees' retirement funds from February through June. In the US, may not be much but in China, or specifically Shanghai, that's about 32% of the employee's salary. The gov't has also reduced tax burden on the companies so that the employers can keep paying the employees a salary throughout the crisis. Ironically, this Communist/Socialist government did not once send out a relief check to every citizen. Burden was put on the employers, but help was also given through other means. Shoot, we didn't even have to pay tolls for the highway for several months. If you want to say the pandemic started here, you won't get an argument from me. Spread prevention wasn't handled well, I agree. The central gov't should have done more to regulate people going overseas from other placed outside Hubei province. But if you want to criticize China for getting back to some form of normalcy, can't agree with you there. Everyone I talked to in the US, Japan, Korea, Australia, Europe...we all long for normalcy and they appreciated some pictures I would send of a crowded Costco, or a busy shopping mall. And that's because everyone wanted to know how everything turned out. It wasn't an easy road to get to this point and in the mean time the world economy came to a complete stand still, if not near collapse. That's not helping Uncle Mao either. Hang in there holiday, I feel your pain/frustration because been through it before and can only say it will get better. Did your test come back negative? . Test still not back, but 70 tests were taken that day and I’m hoping they come back negative,
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Post by XAsstCoach on May 12, 2020 6:28:53 GMT -5
Test still not back, but 70 tests were taken that day and I’m hoping they come back negative, 🙏 Amen to that! 🙏
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Post by Phaedrus on May 12, 2020 9:07:32 GMT -5
Ohio restaurants are going to open for outdoor seating May 15, this Friday. Indoor seating starts May 21, with proper social distancing and observing all the protocols. No face covering requirements but highly recommended.
An informal poll conducted by the Dayton foodie group shows that the vast majority of the people are going to stay away, at least until they know the number of cases has not spiked.
Non-essential businesses open today. I would be curious to see how the mall business will be.
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Post by holidayhusker on May 12, 2020 9:12:49 GMT -5
Ohio restaurants are going to open for outdoor seating May 15, this Friday. Indoor seating starts May 21, with proper social distancing and observing all the protocols. No face covering requirements but highly recommended. An informal poll conducted by the Dayton foodie group shows that the vast majority of the people are going to stay away, at least until they know the number of cases has not spiked. Non-essential businesses open today. I would be curious to see how the mall business will be. I would think Mall business would be really tough. Cafés re-opened here but people are still ordering out.
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Post by Phaedrus on May 12, 2020 9:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by cindra on May 12, 2020 9:54:29 GMT -5
Ohio restaurants are going to open for outdoor seating May 15, this Friday. Indoor seating starts May 21, with proper social distancing and observing all the protocols. No face covering requirements but highly recommended. An informal poll conducted by the Dayton foodie group shows that the vast majority of the people are going to stay away, at least until they know the number of cases has not spiked. Non-essential businesses open today. I would be curious to see how the mall business will be. I would think Mall business would be really tough. Cafés re-opened here but people are still ordering out. Hard to do stuff like curbside pickup in malls. Anything where people are indoors is dangerous because spaces is limited and air is recirculated through AC.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 13, 2020 12:29:28 GMT -5
In the "Stuff that annoy me" category.
I spend a lot of time outdoors, possibly more than most (but less than people who work outdoors, e.g., construction, landscape gardeners, postman), because I walk my dog twice a day (morning, evening) for at least an hour each and run outdoors. Quite often, I'm sharing the sidewalk space with other people. This is the part that annoys me: Some people will refuse to make way for you. They will hold their ground (like playing chicken) to the last second so that you will move out of the way.
When I run, I try to move out of the way by stepping off the curb and onto the road as a courtesy to walkers. However, when I'm walking my dog on the sidewalk, I think we should both give each other room. Some people don't do that. A couple times, I encountered the same people on my walk twice on the same morning. (We were both doing a loop, I guess, but in opposite directions.) The first time we approached each other, I gave them room. The second time, I was hoping they would give me room. But no... Those f***ers maintained their position and forced me to move aside.
Oh, and 100% of the time, they're White people. (Asians, Indians (yes, I know Indians are also Asians), Hispanics, and Blacks (although very low percentage) tend to be nicer even though I realize that deep down, they probably hate my guts as much as White people do.)
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Post by volleylearner on May 23, 2020 21:55:34 GMT -5
I picked up some relatives at the airport on last week to join my household, and decided to get a test to make sure they had not infected me so a high-risk relative could join us. CA has an site where random people can sign up for a test, so Monday night I signed up for one in Kings Beach (Lake Tahoe north shore) on Tuesday. All the time slots were available. There were two people in front of me and no one waiting when I left. It was the swab-up-your-nose test, which was pretty mild compared to an ENT sticking a camera up my nose. They said I would get results in 48-72 hours, but Friday afternoon came and went without results. Then I got an email at 1am Saturday morning with the negative result. Maybe the lab is working 24x7, or perhaps they have some automated upload/email of results that runs overnight.
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Post by volleylearner on May 30, 2020 15:41:12 GMT -5
I've been washing my hands so much that my phone no longer recognizes my fingerprint (really).
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Post by n00b on May 30, 2020 15:42:39 GMT -5
I've been washing my hands so much that my phone no longer recognizes my fingerprint (really). Ugh. I wish I still could unlock with my fingerprint. iPhone's face-recognition sucks when you have to wear a mask in public.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jun 8, 2020 21:49:33 GMT -5
For the most part, this COVID19 pandemic hasn't affected me much except for the lines at grocery stores, which have all but disappeared in the past month. The mask is a minor nuisance but it's not a big deal. Things I've ordered via Amazon and other retailers have arrived without a hitch. However, over a month ago, I ordered a digital piano which, as it turns out, is in short supply from a variety of retailers. One salesman told me that they've been having difficulty getting parts to construct that piano because the part supplier is located in China and that Chinese company has been affected by the pandemic. I tried ordering it from a different supplier. Same deal. It's been over a month. No light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by n00b on Jun 9, 2020 0:23:43 GMT -5
Skimmed through the WHO's June 5th publication titled Advice on the use of masks in the context of COVID-19. Here are some things that jumped out at me. So most transmission is by people who are symptomatic. Asymptomatic cases probably do not transmit the virus. Pre-symptomatic individuals may or may not transmit the virus. However they do go on to to basically say, well it couldn't hurt so if you want to wear it, go ahead.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 9, 2020 0:48:38 GMT -5
Here are some things that jumped out at me. Asymptomatic cases probably do not transmit the virus. Um ... The thing you quoted and the thing you said are different things.
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