trojansc
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Post by trojansc on Apr 14, 2020 22:59:03 GMT -5
Hagglund could have worked had she upped her passing. Unfortunate how things turned out with USAV.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 23:03:46 GMT -5
The domestic league will never be a reality Never seems dramatic. We don’t know what the sports landscape will look like in 2075. Slightly sooner than that. In fact, we can have a friendly wager if you like?
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Post by n00b on Apr 14, 2020 23:07:41 GMT -5
Unfortunate how things turned out with USAV. I feel like that statement can be applied to a lot of people...
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Post by n00b on Apr 14, 2020 23:08:28 GMT -5
With a whole extra year, who knows what will happen? Clearly Karch brought Maloney in for a reason, and all the other potential Ls will have another year of experience. I’m not saying anything is off limits. I think they needed a body in the gym while the A team was away.
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libro
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Post by libro on Apr 14, 2020 23:08:30 GMT -5
With Kelsey doing so well at OH overseas and recently for USA I just love that Larson/Robinson OH tandem that can pass exceptionally. Then have a better defensive libero that can hopefully grow in SR as this extra time hopefully allots I wouldn't say Kelsey is doing "so well" overseas. She hit .250 for the year at Fenerbahce in Turkish league play, with 2.5 kills per set. Not awful, but nothing really to write home about. However, if you just look at her matches against the top teams in the Turkish league (Ecz, Vakif, and Galta) in both Turkish league and CEV play, she hit .167 with 2.26 kills per set. She had a good summer against weaker competition in 2019, and posters seem to think that her history of offensive struggles (and I'm saying this as a KRob fan) have just gone away. I'm more skeptical. I agree with others that I think she'll have a bigger impact at the libero position. An issue I feel Turkey seems to exploit is that whomever the person wearing the lib Jersey on the court is, they serve them and are able to get easy points off of them, even when KRob is in that jersey. For some reason when she’s OUTSIDE she’s able to pass better at least for her team to have more options. I’m just all about eliminating serving targets on the court and maximizing defensive capability
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Post by jwvolley on Apr 14, 2020 23:16:29 GMT -5
I love Robinson but I'm conflicted about this. I think people forget how good Hill can be, as well as MBH. I really don't follow their club seasons enough to know how good either of them is at passing (@bwf2 maybe you can provide insight). I wouldn't want to be the one making these decisions right now. We have a lot of talent, though perhaps not so many viable options at libero. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by Supremewaffle1 on Apr 14, 2020 23:19:26 GMT -5
Undoubtedly the real answer is to move Kendall white to lib immediately. Sees the floor well, a vocal leader and someone who can take command back there. I like hentz but I feel she dives due to being out of position and white just makes better reads
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libro
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Post by libro on Apr 14, 2020 23:27:07 GMT -5
Undoubtedly the real answer is to move Kendall white to lib immediately. Sees the floor well, a vocal leader and someone who can take command back there. I like hentz but I feel she dives due to being out of position and white just makes better reads A truly hilarious post in this EDUCATED thread. Kendall does not pass balls above the tape, or serve receive flat float serves well enough to get the job done. YES she passes with 2 in SR but I’m just not sold on her, and unless she plays in 6 she has no use. She just slaps booty every time u get a point. So do I. Big deal.
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Post by bbg95 on Apr 14, 2020 23:27:24 GMT -5
Anything is possible especially if the 2020 VNL happens at some point before October. Hell the same is possible even if the team gets together post quarantine to train. Don't forget Kenzie Maloney was in the gym training at Libero also. Someone out of JWO, Maloney, Hentz, White or Lake is bound to emerge during that time. Karch is the idiot who thinks that the reason the USA can't hang with the big teams is because the team needs a better passing libero over a defensive one. Yes, the candidate needs to be able to do both but if the team hopes to medal AT ALL, they HAVE to solve back court defensive weaknesses. You have to be able to dig these big hitters, pick up tips and create more transition opportunities. Robinson is simply too valuable an OH to have at Libero. That ship has sailed. She firmly has ahold of a starting spot at that position and I don't see her relinquishing it anytime soon. Going deeper down this rabbit hole...the USA will continue to struggle to have depth at the Setting and Libero positions until a domestic league becomes reality. Hate to say it, but if that's the case, then the USA will continue to struggle to have depth at those positions full stop. I would love to see a stable domestic women's volleyball league, but I just don't think it's even remotely realistic that it could be successful barring a major sea change in American sports.
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Post by werka on Apr 14, 2020 23:40:40 GMT -5
One thing’s for sure, Courtney won’t be that Tokyo 2021 libero.
Either of JWO, Hentz, Lake, Maloney, Robinson emerging, I’m good. Hope JWO gets another contract to continue what she’s been doing. Karch went to one of her matches last February. I wonder what he thought lol.
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Post by andyberg on Apr 14, 2020 23:50:43 GMT -5
Anything is possible especially if the 2020 VNL happens at some point before October. Hell the same is possible even if the team gets together post quarantine to train. Don't forget Kenzie Maloney was in the gym training at Libero also. Someone out of JWO, Maloney, Hentz, White or Lake is bound to emerge during that time. Karch is the idiot who thinks that the reason the USA can't hang with the big teams is because the team needs a better passing libero over a defensive one. Yes, the candidate needs to be able to do both but if the team hopes to medal AT ALL, they HAVE to solve back court defensive weaknesses. You have to be able to dig these big hitters, pick up tips and create more transition opportunities. Robinson is simply too valuable an OH to have at Libero. That ship has sailed. She firmly has ahold of a starting spot at that position and I don't see her relinquishing it anytime soon. Going deeper down this rabbit hole...the USA will continue to struggle to have depth at the Setting and Libero positions until a domestic league becomes reality. Hate to say it, but if that's the case, then the USA will continue to struggle to have depth at those positions full stop. I would love to see a stable domestic women's volleyball league, but I just don't think it's even remotely realistic that it could be successful barring a major sea change in American sports. I don't think we have a depth problem at setter, do we? Carlini, Poulter, and Hancock are all good and will only continue to improve playing in the top leagues. The libero problem certainly seems to be related to not being able to find teams overseas, but that isn't a problem for the setters. The way I see it, our passing needs to be better because we don't have a Zhu/Egonu/Boskovic type terminator to bail us out OOS. If Thompson or Plummer could develop that type of offensive presence, we wouldn't need dimes all the time, they could just take out the trash. I think both have the potential to be elite terminators, but maybe not in time for Tokyo.
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Post by bbg95 on Apr 15, 2020 0:02:49 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but if that's the case, then the USA will continue to struggle to have depth at those positions full stop. I would love to see a stable domestic women's volleyball league, but I just don't think it's even remotely realistic that it could be successful barring a major sea change in American sports. I don't think we have a depth problem at setter, do we? Carlini, Poulter, and Hancock are all good and will only continue to improve playing in the top leagues. The libero problem certainly seems to be related to not being able to find teams overseas, but that isn't a problem for the setters. The way I see it, our passing needs to be better because we don't have a Zhu/Egonu/Boskovic type terminator to bail us out OOS. If Thompson or Plummer could develop that type of offensive presence, we wouldn't need dimes all the time, they could just take out the trash. I think both have the potential to be elite terminators, but maybe not in time for Tokyo. Well, I wasn't really commenting specifically on whether or not we have a depth problem at setter. I don't know enough about the professional leagues overseas to really have a very informed opinion on whether that's the case or not. I was just saying that if our depth at the position is dependent on a domestic league, then we could be in some trouble because I'm skeptical that such a league would be viable in the long term. I'd love to be wrong.
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libro
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Post by libro on Apr 15, 2020 2:21:33 GMT -5
Just been rewatching Hentz this past post season in her senior year. just like her whole career, BUT don’t EVER short shot/tip on her it will be dug and probably dug perfectly. I get it’s different, USA collegiate to international; but she just sees the offspeed so easily or at least late reacts so effortlessly. I mean this is Sergio type stuff. How many USA defensive players can you say that about?
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Post by dragan11 on Apr 15, 2020 3:35:33 GMT -5
Did JWO eventually win out the starting spot on her German team? I'm not sold on her at all. No.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Apr 15, 2020 7:18:34 GMT -5
Never seems dramatic. We don’t know what the sports landscape will look like in 2075. Slightly sooner than that. In fact, we can have a friendly wager if you like? Aight I’m down!
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