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Post by Longhorn20 on Apr 15, 2020 7:59:03 GMT -5
The domestic league will never be a reality This is definitely not true. The virus has changed timings a bit but watch this space. Well this is exciting!
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Apr 15, 2020 8:10:02 GMT -5
Undoubtedly the real answer is to move Kendall white to lib immediately. Sees the floor well, a vocal leader and someone who can take command back there. I like hentz but I feel she dives due to being out of position and white just makes better reads If team USA is going for another cheerleader Courtney Thompson style, then sure, but I think we want more out of our USA libero.
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Post by donut on Apr 15, 2020 8:17:25 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Kelsey is doing "so well" overseas. She hit .250 for the year at Fenerbahce in Turkish league play, with 2.5 kills per set. Not awful, but nothing really to write home about. However, if you just look at her matches against the top teams in the Turkish league (Ecz, Vakif, and Galta) in both Turkish league and CEV play, she hit .167 with 2.26 kills per set. She had a good summer against weaker competition in 2019, and posters seem to think that her history of offensive struggles (and I'm saying this as a KRob fan) have just gone away. I'm more skeptical. I agree with others that I think she'll have a bigger impact at the libero position. An issue I feel Turkey seems to exploit is that whomever the person wearing the lib Jersey on the court is, they serve them and are able to get easy points off of them, even when KRob is in that jersey. For some reason when she’s OUTSIDE she’s able to pass better at least for her team to have more options. I’m just all about eliminating serving targets on the court and maximizing defensive capability I don't understand what you're saying here? Can you clarify?
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Post by Hawk Attack on Apr 15, 2020 8:48:49 GMT -5
Undoubtedly the real answer is to move Kendall white to lib immediately. Sees the floor well, a vocal leader and someone who can take command back there. I like hentz but I feel she dives due to being out of position and white just makes better reads If team USA is going for another cheerleader Courtney Thompson style, then sure, but I think we want more out of our USA libero. Kendall White is not like Courtney Thompson. Being expressive doesn’t inherently make a player a “cheerleader”. If anybody Lake is the closest to Thompson, demeanor & “cheerleader”-wise.
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Apr 15, 2020 9:19:07 GMT -5
If team USA is going for another cheerleader Courtney Thompson style, then sure, but I think we want more out of our USA libero. Kendall White is not like Courtney Thompson. Being expressive doesn’t inherently make a player a “cheerleader”. If anybody Lake is the closest to Thompson, demeanor & “cheerleader”-wise. You're right. Courtney Thompson is an Olympian. Kendall White is not.
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 15, 2020 10:00:41 GMT -5
Anyone else read this as “USA liberals for Tokyo”?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 10:10:04 GMT -5
Kendall White is not like Courtney Thompson. Being expressive doesn’t inherently make a player a “cheerleader”. If anybody Lake is the closest to Thompson, demeanor & “cheerleader”-wise. You're right. Courtney Thompson is an Olympian. Kendall White is not. Kendall white could actually contribute to the team though? Of course she’s not an Olympian yet she just graduated. She is a fantastic passer and defender
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Apr 15, 2020 10:17:27 GMT -5
You're right. Courtney Thompson is an Olympian. Kendall White is not. Kendall white could actually contribute to the team though? Of course she’s not an Olympian yet she just graduated. She is a fantastic passer and defender I think she's a good libero, but I don't see her playing over Courtney, Rob, Hentz, Lake, etc.
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Post by nothingbutcorn on Apr 15, 2020 10:33:49 GMT -5
So is Maloney still in CA?
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Post by libro on Apr 15, 2020 10:35:49 GMT -5
An issue I feel Turkey seems to exploit is that whomever the person wearing the lib Jersey on the court is, they serve them and are able to get easy points off of them, even when KRob is in that jersey. For some reason when she’s OUTSIDE she’s able to pass better at least for her team to have more options. I’m just all about eliminating serving targets on the court and maximizing defensive capability I don't understand what you're saying here? Can you clarify? Certainly. I can’t exactly attest to this, I’ve never been an outside. But when KRob is an outside and not a lib, she isn’t as susceptible in SR. For some reason when you throw an OH into the lib spot, their passing just isn’t as strong and teams like Guidetti and Turkey and Lang Ping of China serve the F out of our liberos no matter who they are and causes so many issues. My main point: when KRob is OH= not as susceptible passing. When KRob libero: more susceptible to SR miscues
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 11:15:48 GMT -5
Slightly sooner than that. In fact, we can have a friendly wager if you like? Aight I’m down! You're on. I'll DM.
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on Apr 15, 2020 11:54:00 GMT -5
With Kelsey doing so well at OH overseas and recently for USA I just love that Larson/Robinson OH tandem that can pass exceptionally. Then have a better defensive libero that can hopefully grow in SR as this extra time hopefully allots You know you described hentz
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:01:21 GMT -5
With Kelsey doing so well at OH overseas and recently for USA I just love that Larson/Robinson OH tandem that can pass exceptionally. Then have a better defensive libero that can hopefully grow in SR as this extra time hopefully allots You know you described hentz She's not yet strong enough in SR (Lake is currently better) and we know that Karch requires great ball control first and foremost. Hentz's greatest strength is her floor coverage (32% of all defensive touches for Stanford this year) but that's just not as important at the Olympic level when there are other fantastic athletes. I'm not saying she can't be a great Libero, but she has to refine her game.
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Post by libro on Apr 15, 2020 12:15:04 GMT -5
With Kelsey doing so well at OH overseas and recently for USA I just love that Larson/Robinson OH tandem that can pass exceptionally. Then have a better defensive libero that can hopefully grow in SR as this extra time hopefully allots You know you described hentz Well you being Cardinalvolley you probably know this. But I hope this forum and the world knows how legit and precise of a lib Morgan Hentz is. I won’t suck her off too much more but she knows when to make things perfect and when not bc of a backrow setter, situation, etc. when she passes off balls, typically they’re so HIGH that Gray could make that a 2 pass easy (let’s not go into Florida semis 2017, I consider that her sophomore slump). If USA wants to excel in that position, someone convince her to get in that gym now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:24:46 GMT -5
You know you described hentz Well you being Cardinalvolley you probably know this. But I hope this forum and the world knows how legit and precise of a lib Morgan Hentz is. I won’t suck her off too much more but she knows when to make things perfect and when not bc of a backrow setter, situation, etc. when she passes off balls, typically they’re so HIGH that Gray could make that a 2 pass easy (let’s not go into Florida semis 2017, I consider that her sophomore slump). If USA wants to excel in that position, someone convince her to get in that gym now. That's actually the exact opposite of her game right now. Hentz' strengths are her athleticism, footwork and reading. Her weaknesses (and I'm using that word ONLY in comparison to the very best in the country - she's not 'weak' at anything) are her touch and how precise she is in her work. Her GP% This past season was 57.6%. Lake, in comparison, was at 63.5% (joint top Libero in D1). Defensively, Lake is also more accurate. Her dig accuracy is 72.6% (top Libero in D1) whereas Hentz was at 65.6%. As I said before, Hentz covers a ton of floor but that's less valuable at the Olympic level and more of her digs go straight over than you'd want at the top level. Again, I'm not saying she can't refine those things and become a top, top Libero but her strengths/weaknesses are the opposite of what you noted.
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