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Post by preschooler on Jan 24, 2021 22:13:26 GMT -5
Just a point of clarification this was a group of street racers not a political riot. Chaotic very gruesome. komonews.com/watch
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Post by BearClause on Jan 24, 2021 22:27:03 GMT -5
Just a point of clarification this was a group of street racers not a political riot. Chaotic very gruesome. komonews.com/watchAs a further point of clarification, I think most of them were spectators. Most of the reporting called it street racing, but it looks like a sideshow where they're doing donuts.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 24, 2021 22:28:54 GMT -5
I realize how you guys talk out of both sides of your mouth. It’s almost comical from a week ago. You have no idea what they were saying to the police officer. You have no idea what they were threatening. You’re OK with the woman getting shot at the capital who was breaking a window? But God for bid a policeman try to get the hell out of a bad situation. No. Ashli Babbitt was monumentally stupid. You're breaching the Capitol Building. bashing in windows, and trying to break through a barricaded door. And you've already been warned by people on both sides of the door that guns have been drawn. The cop had already extricated himself from the crowd. He could have stopped instead of running that guy over. The Capitol Police officer did stop. Did he fire more than one shot? I count one. Maybe I'm wrong. So because she was stupid but yet not endangering a single life, she deserve to be killed? Yet the mob in Tacoma, who for all you know could be obstructing this policeman Or threatening him, Who for all you know could be trying to get to a situation where a life might be saved, is at fault? You realize how absolutely ridiculous this sounds don’t you bear?
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Post by moody on Jan 24, 2021 22:34:18 GMT -5
No. Ashli Babbitt was monumentally stupid. You're breaching the Capitol Building. bashing in windows, and trying to break through a barricaded door. And you've already been warned by people on both sides of the door that guns have been drawn. The cop had already extricated himself from the crowd. He could have stopped instead of running that guy over. The Capitol Police officer did stop. Did he fire more than one shot? I count one. Maybe I'm wrong. So because she was stupid but yet not endangering a single life, she deserve to be killed? Yet the mob in Tacoma, who for all you know could be obstructing this policeman Or threatening him, Who for all you know could be trying to get to a situation where a life might be saved, is at fault? You realize how absolutely ridiculous this sounds don’t you bear? Hey, look who is comparing now?
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Post by BearClause on Jan 24, 2021 22:36:50 GMT -5
No. Ashli Babbitt was monumentally stupid. You're breaching the Capitol Building. bashing in windows, and trying to break through a barricaded door. And you've already been warned by people on both sides of the door that guns have been drawn. The cop had already extricated himself from the crowd. He could have stopped instead of running that guy over. The Capitol Police officer did stop. Did he fire more than one shot? I count one. Maybe I'm wrong. So because she was stupid but yet not endangering a single life, she deserve to be killed? Yet the mob in Tacoma, who for all you know could be obstructing this policeman Or threatening him, Who for all you know could be trying to get to a situation where a life might be saved, is at fault? You realize how absolutely ridiculous this sounds don’t you bear? Not endangering a single life? If someone was using poles and helmets to break into your house or business, do you assume that they're not there to endanger anyone? Not on the sidewalk yelling, but with broken glass and where you've barricaded the door. Especially someone with a big pack that could contain weapons or a bomb? That is the definition of a justified use of force. You seem to excuse what they did simply because they're Trump supporters.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 24, 2021 22:38:50 GMT -5
So because she was stupid but yet not endangering a single life, she deserve to be killed? Yet the mob in Tacoma, who for all you know could be obstructing this policeman Or threatening him, Who for all you know could be trying to get to a situation where a life might be saved, is at fault? You realize how absolutely ridiculous this sounds don’t you bear? Not endangering a single life? If someone was using poles and helmets to break into your house or business, do you assume that they're not there to endanger anyone? Not on the sidewalk yelling, but with broken glass and where you've barricaded the door. Especially someone with a big pack that could contain weapons or a bomb? That is the definition of a justified use of force. You seem to excuse what they did simply because they're Trump supporters. Bear, you are a very intelligent person. I just don’t understand this? No, there was no one left in the capital? You have no idea however what they were saying or trying to do the policeman. I mean, I just sometimes can’t believe the way your mind works?
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Post by cindra on Jan 24, 2021 22:44:19 GMT -5
Not endangering a single life? If someone was using poles and helmets to break into your house or business, do you assume that they're not there to endanger anyone? Not on the sidewalk yelling, but with broken glass and where you've barricaded the door. Especially someone with a big pack that could contain weapons or a bomb? That is the definition of a justified use of force. You seem to excuse what they did simply because they're Trump supporters. Bear, you are a very intelligent person. I just don’t understand this? No, there was no one left in the capital? You have no idea however what they were saying or trying to do the policeman. I mean, I just sometimes can’t believe the way your mind works? she was within 10 yards of Jim McGovern. you can see him one of the videos of the shooting.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 24, 2021 22:45:12 GMT -5
Bear, you are a very intelligent person. I just don’t understand this? No, there was no one left in the capital? You have no idea however what they were saying or trying to do the policeman. I mean, I just sometimes can’t believe the way your mind works? she was within 10 yards of Jim McGovern. you can see him one of the videos of the shooting. Those people are closer to the police vehicle. What’s your point?Do you know for a fact that they don’t have guns? Do you know for a fact that they are peaceful protesters? No you don’t.
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Post by cindra on Jan 24, 2021 22:48:03 GMT -5
she was within 10 yards of Jim McGovern. you can see him one of the videos of the shooting. Those people are closer to the police vehicle. What’s your point?Do you know for a fact that they don’t have guns? Do you know for a fact that they are peaceful protesters? No you don’t. so he should have backed away from them
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 24, 2021 22:50:29 GMT -5
Those people are closer to the police vehicle. What’s your point?Do you know for a fact that they don’t have guns? Do you know for a fact that they are peaceful protesters? No you don’t. so he should have backed away from them And Mr. McGovern should’ve backed away from that location. To avoid conflict. Correct?
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Post by cindra on Jan 24, 2021 22:51:12 GMT -5
so he should have backed away from them And Mr. McGovern should’ve backed away from that location. To avoid conflict. Correct? what? mcgovern didn't run anybody over with an SUV
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Post by BearClause on Jan 24, 2021 22:51:24 GMT -5
Not endangering a single life? If someone was using poles and helmets to break into your house or business, do you assume that they're not there to endanger anyone? Not on the sidewalk yelling, but with broken glass and where you've barricaded the door. Especially someone with a big pack that could contain weapons or a bomb? That is the definition of a justified use of force. You seem to excuse what they did simply because they're Trump supporters. Bear, you are a very intelligent person. I just don’t understand this? No, there was no one left in the capital? You have no idea however what they were saying or trying to do the policeman. I mean, I just sometimes can’t believe the way your mind works? What I saw was that the driver finished someone off who was flat on the ground and not trying to do anything to him. I'm trying to figure out what you think the officer experienced where he felt that a proportional response would be to run over up to a dozen people in his way. Ashli Babbitt's shooting was clearly justified by her and the crowd's actions. And the officer didn't spray machine gun fire at the door. Besides that he knew he had several members of Congress who hadn't been evacuated. The shooting happened at 2:44 PM and the House Chamber wasn't evacuated until 2:53.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 24, 2021 22:57:44 GMT -5
So the woman breaking into the capital although she was not endangering a single soul, deserve to be killed, but the person obstructing a police car from doing his duty does not deserved to be killed. Who can argue with that kind of mentality
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Post by cindra on Jan 24, 2021 23:01:15 GMT -5
So the woman breaking into the capital although she was not endangering a single soul, deserve to be killed, but the person obstructing a police car from doing his duty does not deserved to be killed. Who can argue with that kind of mentality Neither of them deserved to be killed.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 24, 2021 23:03:56 GMT -5
So the woman breaking into the capital although she was not endangering a single soul, deserve to be killed, but the person obstructing a police car from doing his duty does not deserved to be killed. Who can argue with that kind of mentality Neither of them deserved to be killed. We finally agree. What is the person killed that was ran over? I didn’t see that?
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