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Post by aaronic on May 9, 2021 9:40:17 GMT -5
Also, in the lead up to the BWT and in their BW semi-final, Hawai'i saw tougher serving from Beach, UCI, and UCSD than from BYU. BW competition had Hawai'i well prepped. I was not impressed with BYU’s passing in the semi against Lewis. UH definitely exploited that aspect of BYU’s game, and UH’s back row defense was very good, lot of good digs by Colton, Gage, and yes, Chaz. He has a very bright future. Hopefully he is motivated to improve. I think it was the latter. Hawaii’s serve receive yesterday was exceptional. Even when going up against GGF’s serves, Worsley was a beast on GGF serve receive. Even Barnett and company were impressed. I think this was very key to winning; not allowing for GGF to go on any ridiculous runs at the service line. BYU is a very strong serving team! Remember last year when both teams played last season? Behind GGF (both serving and offense) they nearly swept the series in Honolulu... This time though, Hawaii just outplayed them in that department. |
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Post by wahinefan on May 9, 2021 10:00:10 GMT -5
In my opinion, for whatever it is worth, Wade will have the most difficult time replacing Gage Worsley and Colton Cowell. I do not believe there is a replacement for either of these 2 players on the current roster, or even recruited players. These 2 players not only had the talent for their respective positions, but they also had the intangibles.
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Post by noblesol on May 9, 2021 10:19:02 GMT -5
I was not impressed with BYU’s passing in the semi against Lewis. UH definitely exploited that aspect of BYU’s game, and UH’s back row defense was very good, lot of good digs by Colton, Gage, and yes, Chaz. He has a very bright future. Hopefully he is motivated to improve. I think it was the latter. Hawaii’s serve receive yesterday was exceptional. Even when going up against GGF’s serves, Worsley was a beast on GGF serve receive. Even Barnett and company were impressed. I think this was very key to winning; not allowing for GGF to go on any ridiculous runs at the service line. BYU is a very strong serving team! Remember last year when both teams played last season? Behind GGF (both serving and offense) they nearly swept the series in Honolulu... This time though, Hawaii just outplayed them in that department. March of 2020 against Hawai'i, Gabi night one, 8 aces, 3SE, in three sets. Night two, 3 aces, 4SE in five sets. May 2021, NC vs. Hawai'i, Gabi has 0 aces, 3 SE in three sets. I see a trend. |
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Post by aaronic on May 9, 2021 10:39:32 GMT -5
I think it was the latter. Hawaii’s serve receive yesterday was exceptional. Even when going up against GGF’s serves, Worsley was a beast on GGF serve receive. Even Barnett and company were impressed. I think this was very key to winning; not allowing for GGF to go on any ridiculous runs at the service line. BYU is a very strong serving team! Remember last year when both teams played last season? Behind GGF (both serving and offense) they nearly swept the series in Honolulu... This time though, Hawaii just outplayed them in that department. March of 2020 against Hawai'i, Gabi night one, 8 aces, 3SE, in three sets. Night two, 3 aces, 4SE in five sets. May 2021, NC vs. Hawai'i, Gabi has 0 aces, 3 SE in three sets. I see a trend. I have to give you credit for taking the time to look up somewhat insignificant stats. To use the service ace/error ratio for GGF, or for any other great server for that matter as a means to demonstrate their serving ability, or in this case “inability” is indeed a disrespect to truly the type of contribution they bring to their team with their serving. It isn’t only about the amount of aces a person produces, nor their lack of errors. |
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Post by noblesol on May 9, 2021 11:05:43 GMT -5
March of 2020 against Hawai'i, Gabi night one, 8 aces, 3SE, in three sets. Night two, 3 aces, 4SE in five sets. May 2021, NC vs. Hawai'i, Gabi has 0 aces, 3 SE in three sets. I see a trend. I have to give you credit for taking the time to look up somewhat insignificant stats. To use the service ace/error ratio for GGF, or for any great server for that matter as a means to show how they aren’t good servers is indeed a disrespect to truly the type of contribution they bring to their team with their serving. 🙄
Hawai'i contained Gabi last night, or he contained himself. The trend over the last three BYU vs. Hawai'i matches was Hawai'i serve receive vs. Gabi went from bad on 1st encounter, to managing, to containing. Or another way of looking at it: Gabi vs. Hawaii went from elite serve, to managed, to contained. There's no disrespect in noting it. Or that BW competition leading up to the NC match was the grind stone on which Hawai'i sharpened their serve receive. Beach, UCI, and UCSD brought more team service pressure than BYU. In particular UCSD. BYU tried to bring the heat, but Hawai'i handled it. Gage and Colton will be tough to replace in the back row next year, and that is no disrespect to anyone.
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Post by skojin on May 9, 2021 12:42:40 GMT -5
I was not impressed with BYU’s passing in the semi against Lewis. UH definitely exploited that aspect of BYU’s game, and UH’s back row defense was very good, lot of good digs by Colton, Gage, and yes, Chaz. He has a very bright future. Hopefully he is motivated to improve. I think it was the latter. Hawaii’s serve receive yesterday was exceptional. Even when going up against GGF’s serves, Worsley was a beast on GGF serve receive. Even Barnett and company were impressed. I think this was very key to winning; not allowing for GGF to go on any ridiculous runs at the service line. BYU is a very strong serving team! Remember last year when both teams played last season? Behind GGF (both serving and offense) they nearly swept the series in Honolulu... This time though, Hawaii just outplayed them in that department. If you watch the post game interview of the semis against UCSB, their coach said that Hawaii seems more vulnerable to float serves. Perhaps because not many float servers on the Hawaii squad. Only Voss comes to mind. I don't think BYU recognized this and relied too much on heavy jump serves from GGF and Gardini. Sadly, BYU only had Jauhiainen and the younger Stanley who can serve floats. During the first five points BYU seems to be having a good serving run from Jauhiainen, keeping the Hawaii passers on their heels. |
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Post by brooselee on May 9, 2021 12:53:45 GMT -5
I think it was the latter. Hawaii’s serve receive yesterday was exceptional. Even when going up against GGF’s serves, Worsley was a beast on GGF serve receive. Even Barnett and company were impressed. I think this was very key to winning; not allowing for GGF to go on any ridiculous runs at the service line. BYU is a very strong serving team! Remember last year when both teams played last season? Behind GGF (both serving and offense) they nearly swept the series in Honolulu... This time though, Hawaii just outplayed them in that department. If you watch the post game interview of the semis against UCSB, their coach said that Hawaii seems more vulnerable to float serves. Perhaps because not many float servers on the Hawaii squad. Only Voss comes to mind. I don't think BYU recognized this and relied too much on heavy jump serves from GGF and Gardini. Sadly, BYU only had Jauhiainen and the younger Stanley who can serve floats. During the first five points BYU seems to be having a good serving run from Jauhiainen, keeping the Hawaii passers on their heels. Funny how the UCSB coach was able to point out UH’s vulnerability but get swept by UH.. I don’t think McLaughlin needed to give advice to Shawn Olmsted. Olmsted have done more against UH then UCSB has done so McLaughlin sounded kind of foolish offering that advice. Didn’t UCSB get swept by UH 3 times this season and UCSB is like 0-10 in the last 10 matches against UH? |
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Post by memorybankrupt on May 9, 2021 13:04:22 GMT -5
If you watch the post game interview of the semis against UCSB, their coach said that Hawaii seems more vulnerable to float serves. Perhaps because not many float servers on the Hawaii squad. Only Voss comes to mind. I don't think BYU recognized this and relied too much on heavy jump serves from GGF and Gardini. Sadly, BYU only had Jauhiainen and the younger Stanley who can serve floats. During the first five points BYU seems to be having a good serving run from Jauhiainen, keeping the Hawaii passers on their heels. Funny how the UCSB coach was able to point out UH’s vulnerability but get swept by UH.. I don’t think McLaughlin needed to give advice to Shawn Olmsted. Olmsted have done more against UH then UCSB has done so McLaughlin sounded kind of foolish offering that advice. Didn’t UCSB get swept by UH 3 times this season and UCSB is like 0-10 in the last 10 matches against UH? But the passing was worse against UCSB in the semis. Galloway's receive broke down a bit. And UCSB was able to slow Hawaii's offense down. So I think the point about serving/jump floats is valid. Heck, even Team USA can struggle against jump floats in the last two quads. |
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Post by goblin on May 9, 2021 13:26:34 GMT -5
As the Hawai’i vs BYU match is now posted on You Tube, I’m going to start enjoying my beer and pizza and the match...not necessarily in that order. Damn what a year.
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Post by aznsun90 on May 9, 2021 14:13:19 GMT -5
I have to give you credit for taking the time to look up somewhat insignificant stats. To use the service ace/error ratio for GGF, or for any great server for that matter as a means to show how they aren’t good servers is indeed a disrespect to truly the type of contribution they bring to their team with their serving. 🙄 Hawai'i contained Gabi last night, or he contained himself. The trend over the last three BYU vs. Hawai'i matches was Hawai'i serve receive vs. Gabi went from bad on 1st encounter, to managing, to containing. Or another way of looking at it: Gabi vs. Hawaii went from elite serve, to managed, to contained. There's no disrespect in noting it. Or that BW competition leading up to the NC match was the grind stone on which Hawai'i sharpened their serve receive. Beach, UCI, and UCSD brought more team service pressure than BYU. In particular UCSD. BYU tried to bring the heat, but Hawai'i handled it. Gage and Colton will be tough to replace in the back row next year, and that is no disrespect to anyone.
I agree with you. It’ll be tough to replace gage and Cowell. Such awesome defenders. Just position themselves so well and anticipate. |
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Post by Timeless on May 9, 2021 17:45:57 GMT -5
i am just stating stats. lol. When your team doesn't make it as much you don't have to suffer through close defeat so many times so its easy to judge and gloat. Congrats to Hawaii they deserved it. I am sorry I can't state my opinion and facts without people getting all confrontational? 2013-runner up 2014-final four 2016-runner up 2017-runner up 2018-final four. 2020-runner up. It is frustrating to see your team come so close and not get over the hump. I just think BYU took the wrong night to play one of their worst games. I mean just think of all the other teams who have NO Final Four experience on their resume. Remember Stanford Women went triple finals from 2006-2008. BYU men's volleyball = Texas women's volleyball Good talent but can't get it done when it matters the most. I feel sorry for you, BYU isn't going to be a contender for the next 2+ years unless they land another outstanding opposite. Add in the graduation of Stanley, that's the biggest loss IMHO since good setters are hard to come by. |
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Post by aaronic on May 9, 2021 17:54:11 GMT -5
I have to give you credit for taking the time to look up somewhat insignificant stats. To use the service ace/error ratio for GGF, or for any great server for that matter as a means to show how they aren’t good servers is indeed a disrespect to truly the type of contribution they bring to their team with their serving. 🙄 Hawai'i contained Gabi last night, or he contained himself. The trend over the last three BYU vs. Hawai'i matches was Hawai'i serve receive vs. Gabi went from bad on 1st encounter, to managing, to containing. Or another way of looking at it: Gabi vs. Hawaii went from elite serve, to managed, to contained. There's no disrespect in noting it. Or that BW competition leading up to the NC match was the grind stone on which Hawai'i sharpened their serve receive. Beach, UCI, and UCSD brought more team service pressure than BYU. In particular UCSD. BYU tried to bring the heat, but Hawai'i handled it. Gage and Colton will be tough to replace in the back row next year, and that is no disrespect to anyone.
Yes, indeed Hawaii controlled GGF’s serves last night, as was said already, any fool would have been able to see that. But to simply just amount that to being something that Hawaii could just easily master control over the span of just three matches is doubly foolish. Last year, GGF’s serve proved lethal and scary BOTH matches. Hawaii had no answer throughout the majority of both matches (and sorry, not gonna use your ignorant service ace/error stat line that speaks absolutely nothing to this.) Yesterday, Hawaii played one of their best matches of the season, and completely took control of passing and serve receive vs. BYU. BYU is a good team and lethal when GGF is behind the service line. To say that they aren’t is nothing short but something full of sheer stupidity and cockiness. |
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Post by volleybolero on May 9, 2021 19:48:00 GMT -5
I am so happy for Hawaii.. congrats.. I'm sure those guys that came before you are super happy as well. Salute to the seniors... Thelle is the future... You sure are the Thelle stan. Even when he was a frosh. You think Hawaii could run a 6-2 with him next year. I so badly want to see it... I just know that he'll do well. (lol) It's nice if you have identical setters/Opp for your 6-2 offense but I don't think its necessary or important. These guys can jump from wherever. You can also do a double-sub if needed. Pro teams are suffering from a setter shortage, having 2 is a luxury. |
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Post by hwnstunner on May 9, 2021 19:52:58 GMT -5
Can't we all just get along and be happy UH won the CHAMPIONSHIP!!  |
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Post by Courtside5 on May 9, 2021 20:12:27 GMT -5
My biggest opinion and observations after watching the match was that BYU couldn’t handle Thelle’s left handed jump serves and attacks. BYU had no answer for him and Voss. I think that really took the pressure off Rado and Cowell. It allowed Chaz, Voss, and Thelle to shine in the match which rattled BYU cause they didn’t know who to focus on cause the attack was coming from everywhere. A very well distributed match and I really feel Thelle was outstanding!
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