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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 12:56:24 GMT -5
the world championships in 2022 may delay some decisions (Larson) Krob and MBH will be around. Courtney at OH will be interesting, with the emergence of SWP/Plummer plus the plethora of young OHs in Europe right now Court is still better passer than almost everyone... Her as a paring next to Plummer at Imoco is going to be nice. I think there will be plenty of matches where we see both Plummer and Courtney (and of course they can all play in CL) but we will regularly see one of them sit, but not because they’re “benched” as much as they can’t both be on the court at the same time as Wolosz and de Kruijf. (I think we will also see a lot of Fahr+Folie and Fahr+de Kruijf - so when it’s Folie playing, both Americans can play. When de Kruijf plays, it’ll likely be with Sylla at one of the OH slots.) |
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Post by basil on May 28, 2021 12:59:08 GMT -5
Court is still better passer than almost everyone... Her as a paring next to Plummer at Imoco is going to be nice. I think there will be plenty of matches where we see both Plummer and Courtney (and of course they can all play in CL) but we will regularly see one of them sit, but not because they’re “benched” as much as they can’t both be on the court at the same time as Wolosz and de Kruijf. (I think we will also see a lot of Fahr+Folie and Fahr+de Kruijf - so when it’s Folie playing, both Americans can play. When de Kruijf plays, it’ll likely be with Sylla at one of the OH slots.) I'm pretty sure the Italian League rule is four foreigners on court, not three. I think Sylla will likely start over Plummer with Courtney at OH2, but Plummer will probably come in for Sylla often the way Adams did. Then Folie/Fahr, De Kruijf, Wolosz, Egonu, and De Gennaro can fill out the rest. |
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Post by agean09 on May 28, 2021 13:03:00 GMT -5
I think there will be plenty of matches where we see both Plummer and Courtney (and of course they can all play in CL) but we will regularly see one of them sit, but not because they’re “benched” as much as they can’t both be on the court at the same time as Wolosz and de Kruijf. (I think we will also see a lot of Fahr+Folie and Fahr+de Kruijf - so when it’s Folie playing, both Americans can play. When de Kruijf plays, it’ll likely be with Sylla at one of the OH slots.) I'm pretty sure the Italian League rule is four foreigners on court, not three. I think Sylla will likely start over Plummer with Courtney at OH2, but Plummer will probably come in for Sylla often the way Adams did. Then Folie/Fahr, De Kruijf, Wolosz, Egonu, and De Gennaro can fill out the rest. Teams in the Italian league just have to have 3 Italians on the court, so yes, you can have 4 foreigners in the starters |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 28, 2021 13:16:30 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the Italian League rule is four foreigners on court, not three. I think Sylla will likely start over Plummer with Courtney at OH2, but Plummer will probably come in for Sylla often the way Adams did. Then Folie/Fahr, De Kruijf, Wolosz, Egonu, and De Gennaro can fill out the rest. Teams in the Italian league just have to have 3 Italians on the court, so yes, you can have 4 foreigners in the starters isn't there also some weird requirement that you can't have a certain number of players from the same foreign country on court? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:17:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the Italian League rule is four foreigners on court, not three. I think Sylla will likely start over Plummer with Courtney at OH2, but Plummer will probably come in for Sylla often the way Adams did. Then Folie/Fahr, De Kruijf, Wolosz, Egonu, and De Gennaro can fill out the rest. Teams in the Italian league just have to have 3 Italians on the court, so yes, you can have 4 foreigners in the starters Ohh I always mess up this rule some. Still, though - Courtney, Plummer, de Kruijf, and Wolosz can’t all play together unless one of Plummer, Courtney, or Wolosz is subbed out when de Kruijf comes in... and we know that won’t happen with few subs allowed.. which takes us back to my original point I think. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:18:42 GMT -5
Teams in the Italian league just have to have 3 Italians on the court, so yes, you can have 4 foreigners in the starters isn't there also some weird requirement that you can't have a certain number of players from the same foreign country on court? yea the Americans at Imoco back when “ruined” that. You can only have two from the same federation |
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Post by basil on May 28, 2021 13:26:01 GMT -5
Teams in the Italian league just have to have 3 Italians on the court, so yes, you can have 4 foreigners in the starters Ohh I always mess up this rule some. Still, though - Courtney, Plummer, de Kruijf, and Wolosz can’t all play together unless one of Plummer, Courtney, or Wolosz is subbed out when de Kruijf comes in... and we know that won’t happen with few subs allowed.. which takes us back to my original point I think. ohh I get it my bad I was confused. how did Conegliano make that work when Adams subbed in? |
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Post by Disc808 on May 28, 2021 13:28:19 GMT -5
Unrelated to the thread topic, but is Plummer’s move to Imoco a good one or is / was there a team that fit her goals better?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:31:01 GMT -5
Unrelated to the thread topic, but is Plummer’s move to Imoco a good one or is / was there a team that fit her goals better? who knows. most thought the move to Japan was a bad move... and look how that turned out lol |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:34:42 GMT -5
Ohh I always mess up this rule some. Still, though - Courtney, Plummer, de Kruijf, and Wolosz can’t all play together unless one of Plummer, Courtney, or Wolosz is subbed out when de Kruijf comes in... and we know that won’t happen with few subs allowed.. which takes us back to my original point I think. ohh I get it my bad I was confused. how did Conegliano make that work when Adams subbed in? I probably wasn’t paying attention so I’ll have to go back and look - I am thinking if Adams, Hill, and Wolosz were in then the middles playing must have been Folie and Fahr. |
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Post by basil on May 28, 2021 13:39:22 GMT -5
Unrelated to the thread topic, but is Plummer’s move to Imoco a good one or is / was there a team that fit her goals better? I think it's a good move. She might struggle with Wolosz's tempo, but getting used to fast can only help her versatility. Plus, she gets to play in the Italian League and the CL, especially if she consistently replaces Sylla, which I think she will. Santarelli seems like a good passing coach and just a good coach in general. Also, Imoco is a good org for player support, I remember they gave Chi an Italian tutor + most of the starters speak English anyways. Generally, I think it's a good idea, the only problem might be getting enough match time. |
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Post by Disc808 on May 28, 2021 13:39:47 GMT -5
Unrelated to the thread topic, but is Plummer’s move to Imoco a good one or is / was there a team that fit her goals better? who knows. most thought the move to Japan was a bad move... and look how that turned out lol I’m hoping for a breakout year in 2022 on the left side, if not (I may be exaggerating here) she might need to consider the right side more seriously. She has the capability and the VB IQ, I really hope she continues to improve. I want to see her in more than 1-2 rotations in the serve receive lineup in matches with Imoco lol |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 16:54:28 GMT -5
who knows. most thought the move to Japan was a bad move... and look how that turned out lol I’m hoping for a breakout year in 2022 on the left side, if not (I may be exaggerating here) she might need to consider the right side more seriously. She has the capability and the VB IQ, I really hope she continues to improve. I want to see her in more than 1-2 rotations in the serve receive lineup in matches with Imoco lol You are, as with most Stanford fans when it comes to Plummer, expecting too much. This next year is about development, not "breaking out". |
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Post by Disc808 on May 28, 2021 17:10:50 GMT -5
I’m hoping for a breakout year in 2022 on the left side, if not (I may be exaggerating here) she might need to consider the right side more seriously. She has the capability and the VB IQ, I really hope she continues to improve. I want to see her in more than 1-2 rotations in the serve receive lineup in matches with Imoco lol You are, as with most Stanford fans when it comes to Plummer, expecting too much. This next year is about development, not "breaking out". As a Plummer Stan, I have no choice but to have high hopes  . I agree that greatness doesn't come quickly at this level and that she has a lot of work to do. But I mean is it so bad to say that I would love to see her have a great year in 2022... and I did admit I was exaggerating lol. |
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Post by donut on May 28, 2021 17:21:14 GMT -5
Unrelated to the thread topic, but is Plummer’s move to Imoco a good one or is / was there a team that fit her goals better? who knows. most thought the move to Japan was a bad move... and look how that turned out lol Do we have enough information to determine whether that was a good or bad move? |
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. I agree that greatness doesn't come quickly at this level and that she has a lot of work to do. But I mean is it so bad to say that I would love to see her have a great year in 2022... and I did admit I was exaggerating lol.
