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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 15, 2024 12:51:22 GMT -5
they don't have to pay the travel subsidies anymore. This is the entirety of it. Money, as always. I'm sure the bill for flying Wyoming track&field team out to the Islands for one meet, will definitely be worth it. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 15, 2024 14:45:30 GMT -5
they don't have to pay the travel subsidies anymore. This is the entirety of it. Money, as always. I'm sure the bill for flying Wyoming track&field team out to the Islands for one meet, will definitely be worth it. Hawaii has to travel a lot already as it is, and they pay subsidies to the Big West to do so. And I'm not sure you understand how track meets work, lol. You make it sound like Wyoming and Hawaii will have a dual meet or something in Hawaii. That is not the case. Hawaii had no home meets in 2024. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 15, 2024 14:48:51 GMT -5
So the Mountain West is apparently looking at Northern Illinois and Toledo for football-only memberships. At first glance, this doesn't make a lot of sense for those schools. But I've seen a fair number of NIU fans at least (not sure about Toledo) that seem very unhappy with the MAC and want to leave. I guess the main issues are that the MAC has a terrible TV (less than a million per year per school), and those weekday games kill attendance.
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 15, 2024 14:52:14 GMT -5
Going to be a lot more traveling for Hawaii. Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Wyoming.. Currently, the Texas part is basically New Mexico. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 15, 2024 14:54:10 GMT -5
Going to be a lot more traveling for Hawaii. Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Wyoming.. Currently, the Texas part is basically New Mexico. True. El Paso even has the same time zone. |
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 15, 2024 14:56:27 GMT -5
they don't have to pay the travel subsidies anymore. This is the entirety of it. Money, as always. I'm sure the bill for flying Wyoming track&field team out to the Islands for one meet, will definitely be worth it. For most individual sports, changing conferences creates relatively limited change. For track and field, the change will essentially be the location of the conference meet. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Oct 15, 2024 15:23:06 GMT -5
Hawai'i reportedly was paying from $150,000 to $175,000 per team in travel expenses, but now that is gone. I'm sure a majority of that amount was in the form of hotel and air sponsorships from Hawaiian Airlines and Outrigger Hotels. They have been major sponsors of Hawai'i athletics for decades, at least in this new agreement, there is less pressure to lean on the sponsors to take the hit. As for the four sports not sponsored by the MWC, the Big West needs Hawai'i to remain to be championship-eligible. Maybe they can eliminate those travel subsidies as well. In the end, Hawai'i earn much more money and pay out much less in expenses.
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Post by soljah808 on Oct 15, 2024 15:30:44 GMT -5
I liked the Big West for Hawaii. Selling out all the other sports for football is… not fun to me. Making Hawaii non-football athletes get on a plane for 7-8 hours, to play one match/game/meet, then get right back on the plane to come back to the islands .... is nearly criminal. You realize this was the norm for Hawaii in the old WAC for decades, correct? Lol |
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 15, 2024 15:40:45 GMT -5
Maybe they should just move the islands closer to the mainland.
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Post by leftcoaster71 on Oct 15, 2024 15:46:17 GMT -5
Making Hawaii non-football athletes get on a plane for 7-8 hours, to play one match/game/meet, then get right back on the plane to come back to the islands .... is nearly criminal. You realize this was the norm for Hawaii in the old WAC for decades, correct? Lol And wasn't Louisiana Tech part of the WAC at time? So, even further for them to travel. |
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Post by staticb on Oct 15, 2024 15:48:57 GMT -5
Maybe they should just move the islands closer to the mainland. One day someone will invent superfast air travel and/or teleportation and it will drive huge re-alignment once again and Hawaii will find the place that it deserves in college athletics. |
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Post by noblesol on Oct 15, 2024 15:52:43 GMT -5
Maybe they should just move the islands closer to the mainland. One day someone will invent superfast air travel and/or teleportation and it will drive huge re-alignment once again and Hawaii will find the place that it deserves in college athletics. I find the Hawai'i isolation from the mainland to be a redeeming feature of living here. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Oct 15, 2024 15:59:49 GMT -5
You realize this was the norm for Hawaii in the old WAC for decades, correct? Lol And wasn't Louisiana Tech part of the WAC at time? So, even further for them to travel. Yes, and Rice. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Oct 15, 2024 16:05:42 GMT -5
Honestly, Hawai'i loves the Big West because it's one state. But without FBS football, they were on an island... stranded. I understand the economics of the Big West canceling football, but in this day and age, the conference will wither without football.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 15, 2024 16:15:01 GMT -5
Honestly, Hawai'i loves the Big West because it's one state. But without FBS football, they were on an island... stranded. I understand the economics of the Big West canceling football, but in this day and age, the conference will wither without football. Maybe. Or maybe not. Plenty of conferences have done just fine with no football. Football is very expensive for schools, and only pays out if they are in one of the elite football conferences. And the number of such conferences keeps shrinking. The place a school does not want to be is having to pay for a football program but not getting the big TV payouts that support it. Better to have no football than to be in that intermediate limbo. |
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