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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Nov 18, 2021 20:06:20 GMT -5
I would take the Scarlet Knight vs Goldie in a jousting competition. I've never seen Goldie on a horse for starters. I HAVE seen Goldie turn his head all the way around! I wouldn't mess with him. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 18, 2021 20:07:19 GMT -5
This doesn’t make sense. How can it NOT affect RPI? Either it counts as a win and affects the RPI or doesn’t count at all which affects the RPI. The conference counts it as a win. The NCAA does not. NCAA wins and losses feed into RPI. If Minnesota doesn’t have to recognize a match against Rutgers, it means Rutgers’ terrible Record doesn’t affect Minnesota’s SOS, which affects their RPI- for the better. |
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Post by vbmom10 on Nov 18, 2021 21:19:48 GMT -5
Nebraska match is also cancelled. Our Senior night will be Friday after the Penn State game.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Nov 19, 2021 10:19:04 GMT -5
Lexi is not going to be happy.
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Post by skiumahgopher on Nov 19, 2021 10:31:43 GMT -5
Per the Gophers email, the match will be a forfeit. Also for those with tickets: Fans with tickets to the Volleyball match on Friday night against Rutgers can utilize their tickets for any one of the below Gopher home events on Friday or Saturday: FRI | 6:00pm - Men's Basketball vs. Purdue Fort Wayne Williams Arena FRI | 7:00pm - Men's Hockey vs. Penn State 3M Arena at Mariucci SAT | 3:00pm - Women's Hockey vs. St. Cloud State Ridder Arena SAT | 7:00pm - Wrestling vs. Oklahoma State Maturi Pavilion SAT | 8:00pm - Men's Hockey vs. Penn State 3M Arena at Mariucci My rank: Wrestling (just to see Gable Steveson in action) Men's Hockey - Saturday (because they have sucked on Fridays) Women's Hockey - Too bad it isn't Wisconsin or UMD, because SCSU is bad MBB - Just to see Jamison Battle & Payton Willis dominate, and to see if the freshmen play more than 10 seconds. Men's Hockey - Friday |
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Post by vbcoltrane on Nov 19, 2021 10:57:38 GMT -5
Shouldn't "non-Covid related" just be a forfeit. Is it Covid related and they just don't want the bad PR?
Edit: My bad; I didn't even read the first post stating it's a forfeit before responding. I'll do better.
The "win" is already reflected in the record on Gophs website.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 19, 2021 11:49:52 GMT -5
So not one but two bubble seed Big 10 teams now get to boost their SOS a week before selection? wonderful.
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Post by jwvolley on Nov 19, 2021 11:54:55 GMT -5
So not one but two bubble seed Big 10 teams now get to boost their SOS a week before selection? wonderful. Sorta like how Washington got to add a top 25 rpi win to their resumé against UCLA by playing them without Luper. (aka not Washington's fault/problem). Not a guaranteed win, but a significant leg up given the rematch result. These teams had no control over this. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Nov 19, 2021 11:56:22 GMT -5
So not one but two bubble seed Big 10 teams now get to boost their SOS a week before selection? wonderful. was this energy there when UW's match with #226 Portland got canceled? lol |
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Post by jwvolley on Nov 19, 2021 11:57:41 GMT -5
So not one but two bubble seed Big 10 teams now get to boost their SOS a week before selection? wonderful. was this energy there when UW's match with #226 Portland got canceled? lol Lol even better |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 19, 2021 12:22:23 GMT -5
So not one but two bubble seed Big 10 teams now get to boost their SOS a week before selection? wonderful. was this energy there when UW's match with #226 Portland got canceled? lol I'm sure you are rational enough to appreciate the difference between these two scenarios. It's week 13, We know for a fact that Rutgers' record will wreck opponents RPI. In week 4, we actually DON'T know it. Sure we can "project" their record, but it certainly doesn't always pan out that way. Portland could have done big things in conference and NOT have been an RPI bomb. Stanford was "projected" to be a sub .500 team earlier this season, are they now? Sure I'm thankful that has helped Washington because Portland did have a sucky season, but that is different than KNOWING the record ahead of time, which we do with Rutgers. And, to be fair, I'm not suggesting there is some hidden conspiracy for these two teams to cancel a match with Rutgers, or that it's their fault. I'm mostly criticizing the RPI inputs and criteria in the first place. Not playing a match at all makes both teams nitty gritty look better in the committees eyes, when in reality whether or not they play the match has ZERO bearing on how good or not good Nebraska/Minnesota actually are (other than if they lost the match, which they weren't). And the fact that it happens to possibly break in favor of not one, but two Big 10 teams who were already on the seed bubble for a committee that has shown demonstrably favorable treatment in the past, certainly doesn't help the matter not leave a sour taste. I'd rather them all (including Washington's match with Portland) be either forfeit wins/losses and gets computed just like every other match. THAT is fair. And you shouldn't be allowed to go RPI fishing and just add teams last minute *cough* USC either to manipulate the RPI. BTW, Brown was also "projected" to be 11-13 for the season and a poor team to schedule non-conference yet they are sitting at 20-4 and a SOS gold mine to schedule. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 19, 2021 12:30:50 GMT -5
So not one but two bubble seed Big 10 teams now get to boost their SOS a week before selection? wonderful. was this energy there when UW's match with #226 Portland got canceled? lol That certainly helped UW. This situation is actually even better for Minnesota and Nebraska though. They get all of the wins credited into their RPI (via B1G opponents) against Rutgers without having to play them. In double round robin conferences (which the B1G isn’t) this would be even more huge of an advantage. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Nov 19, 2021 12:38:47 GMT -5
was this energy there when UW's match with #226 Portland got canceled? lol I'm sure you are rational enough to appreciate the difference between these two scenarios. It's week 13, We know for a fact that Rutgers' record will wreck opponents RPI. In week 4, we actually DON'T know it. Sure we can "project" their record, but it certainly doesn't always pan out that way. Portland could have done big things in conference and NOT have been an RPI bomb. Stanford was "projected" to be a sub .500 team earlier this season, are they now? Sure I'm thankful that has helped Washington because Portland did have a sucky season, but that is different than KNOWING the record ahead of time, which we do with Rutgers. And, to be fair, I'm not suggesting there is some hidden conspiracy for these two teams to cancel a match with Rutgers, or that it's their fault. I'm mostly criticizing the RPI inputs and criteria in the first place. Not playing a match at all makes both teams nitty gritty look better in the committees eyes, when in reality whether or not they play the match has ZERO bearing on how good or not good Nebraska/Minnesota actually are (other than if they lost the match, which they weren't). And the fact that it happens to possibly break in favor of not one, but two Big 10 teams who were already on the seed bubble for a committee that has shown demonstrably favorable treatment in the past, certainly doesn't help the matter not leave a sour taste. I'd rather them all (including Washington's match with Portland) be either forfeit wins/losses and gets computed just like every other match. THAT is fair. And you shouldn't be allowed to go RPI fishing and just add teams last minute *cough* USC either to manipulate the RPI. BTW, Brown was also "projected" to be 11-13 for the season and a poor team to schedule non-conference yet they are sitting at 20-4 and a SOS gold mine to schedule. well it was mostly poking fun... but really? we all knew portland wasnt going to be good lmao i dont disagree re: fishing. but it is what it is. |
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Post by gophervbfan on Nov 19, 2021 12:53:32 GMT -5
I would much rather have the match be played regardless of RPI impact. This was supposed to be Senior Night. It would have given the Gophers a chance to work on some things during a match that they otherwise wouldn't have.
More importantly, this sucks for the fans. This is a rare match where tickets are available to people. I personally know of two different families who were going to go for the first time this season. Both have young daughters and in one case it was going to be her first Gopher volleyball match.
There is no "win" in this forfeit. It stinks.
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