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Post by nothingbutcorn on Dec 15, 2021 13:31:00 GMT -5
They are some D1 WBB coaches who do very well. Plus most have 3 paid assistant coaches. Plus all the other support staff. More that WVB.
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Post by Floyd R. Turbo on Dec 15, 2021 13:49:30 GMT -5
Why isn’t Penn State listed? It is not a public university. It's a state-related school. So they interpret open records differently. That's interesting. What's the difference between a public university and state-related school? |
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Post by chenny11 on Dec 15, 2021 14:59:16 GMT -5
Penn State salaries are not public record because it’s not technically a public state school and is categorized more as a “state-related” university.
But I’ve heard Russ Rose makes very comparable numbers to John Cook.
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Post by chenny11 on Dec 15, 2021 15:00:32 GMT -5
It is not a public university. It's a state-related school. So they interpret open records differently. That's interesting. What's the difference between a public university and state-related school? According to the Pennsylvania Department of Education: The term “state-related” applies to universities in Pennsylvania which are statutorily established as an instrumentality of the commonwealth and receive an annual appropriation. Universities are granted “state-related status” either through their initial charters or subsequent legislation. Each university is responsible for setting its own tuition, fees and related costs of attendance. Costs vary from institution to institution. |
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Post by azvolleydad on Dec 15, 2021 15:01:57 GMT -5
That is really strange. His 2020 base salary was $356,000.00 with $105,600.00 in "additional" wages. In 2021 that went down to a base of $279,650.00 with an additional wages totaling $66,000.00. His 2021 total was less than his 2020 base. Did he renew in 2020? Maybe a signing bonus as speculated with Aird? |
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Post by chenny11 on Dec 15, 2021 15:03:01 GMT -5
That's interesting. What's the difference between a public university and state-related school? According to the Pennsylvania Department of Education: The term “state-related” applies to universities in Pennsylvania which are statutorily established as an instrumentality of the commonwealth and receive an annual appropriation. Universities are granted “state-related status” either through their initial charters or subsequent legislation. Each university is responsible for setting its own tuition, fees and related costs of attendance. Costs vary from institution to institution. Obviously most state schools give major discounts to in-state students but that isn’t necessarily the case for PSU. All of the “state schools” in Pennsylvania are DII PSAC schools (think: Gannon University, Slippery Rock University, West Chester University, etc.). Those are the school you’ll get the huge discounts from. Not sure why PA does it that way. |
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Post by wingspam on Dec 15, 2021 15:12:52 GMT -5
Don’t have time to do the digging right now but I thought there were multiple posts earlier this year showing Aird’s salary at Indiana to be around 500K. His first year salary was $580k but then it dropped down to $241k the past two years. Maybe some sort of signing bonus when he came to IU. openpayrolls.com/employee/steven-a-aird-4449Did he have a buyout to get out of his contract with Maryland? If so, and Indiana covered it, that would be compensation imputed to him during that first year. |
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Post by Floyd R. Turbo on Dec 15, 2021 15:14:18 GMT -5
According to the Pennsylvania Department of Education: The term “state-related” applies to universities in Pennsylvania which are statutorily established as an instrumentality of the commonwealth and receive an annual appropriation. Universities are granted “state-related status” either through their initial charters or subsequent legislation. Each university is responsible for setting its own tuition, fees and related costs of attendance. Costs vary from institution to institution. Obviously most state schools give major discounts to in-state students but that isn’t necessarily the case for PSU. All of the “state schools” in Pennsylvania are DII PSAC schools (think: Gannon University, Slippery Rock University, West Chester University, etc.). Those are the school you’ll get the huge discounts from. Not sure why PA does it that way. Interesting structure. Are there any other states that do this? I've never heard of it before but I'm a long way from being any sort of expert of higher education governance. |
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Post by chenny11 on Dec 15, 2021 15:20:48 GMT -5
Obviously most state schools give major discounts to in-state students but that isn’t necessarily the case for PSU. All of the “state schools” in Pennsylvania are DII PSAC schools (think: Gannon University, Slippery Rock University, West Chester University, etc.). Those are the school you’ll get the huge discounts from. Not sure why PA does it that way. Interesting structure. Are there any other states that do this? I've never heard of it before but I'm a long way from being any sort of expert of higher education governance. To my knowledge there are no other states that do this besides Pennsylvania. It’s very odd. I’m from PA and I know that a lot of people are deterred from going to PSU because you get essentially no tuition break for being from PA. |
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Post by robtearle on Dec 15, 2021 15:30:15 GMT -5
That is really strange. His 2020 base salary was $356,000.00 with $105,600.00 in "additional" wages. In 2021 that went down to a base of $279,650.00 with an additional wages totaling $66,000.00. His 2021 total was less than his 2020 base. Did he renew in 2020? Maybe a signing bonus as speculated with Aird? Wisconsin renews (or not) their coaches annually on a three- or four- or five-year "rolling" contract basis (so that a coach can go recruit with a long-term contract in his/her/ pocket). Sheffield's most recent renewal would have come last April, but that was in the middle the spring-COVID VB season, so it was postponed. I don't know whether it happened before the 2021 season started up. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 15, 2021 15:33:57 GMT -5
Are any of them also teaching? Or what else do the do for the university? Almost $200,000 seems like a lot for a coach who barely wins any conference matches. I can’t see these bottom schools volleyball programs generating much money. $200k is what you pay in the hopes the coach will build the program. If you don't, you'll never attract a coach good enough to turn it around and may as well relegate your program to the dumpster forever. |
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Post by hammer on Dec 15, 2021 15:58:03 GMT -5
Are incentives figured into the listed salaries? For example, maybe Sheff's salary went down, but if his team makes the FF he receives a bonus of $200K.
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Post by robtearle on Dec 15, 2021 16:06:59 GMT -5
Are incentives figured into the listed salaries? For example, maybe Sheff's salary went down, but if his team makes the FF he receives a bonus of $200K. It went down because coaches and university employees at UW in general took pay cuts and furloughs related to COVID and the loss of revenue it caused. |
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Post by snickers on Dec 15, 2021 16:20:48 GMT -5
Nebraska: $675,000 Minnesota: $550,000 Illinois: $368,000 Wisconsin: $345,650Ohio State: $281,875Indiana: $246,237Purdue: $241,898Michigan State: $261,375 Rutgers: $180,000Michigan: $170,000 in 2020, but $191,000 in 2019 Iowa: $175,000 Maryland: $160,000I find the Michigan salary a bit shocking, given the success that the coaching staff has had historically. |
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Post by macfan on Dec 15, 2021 16:31:04 GMT -5
Did he have a buyout to get out of his contract with Maryland? If so, and Indiana covered it, that would be compensation imputed to him during that first year. From what I have heard, the issue was that he was headed into his last year of contract and went in to discuss an extension. MD didn’t want to do that yet as they still hadn’t made the tournament (one of the first few out that year I believe). Don’t think that sat well with him, Indiana came knocking, off he went. Makes sense to me. If they aren’t valuing your work/progress and someone else wants you, bye bye. At least that’s what I heard. |
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