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Post by staticb on Dec 17, 2021 2:37:15 GMT -5
Cook is easily the most successful coach at the University of Nebraska. Sad that our pathetic men's basketball and football coaches are making millions more to suck. Some day. Some day! I can't believe your AD brought Frost back. It's who the fan base wanted. It's the fans' fault--the AD delivered the #1 choice of the fans/boosters. |
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Post by knapplc on Dec 17, 2021 8:46:15 GMT -5
Cook is easily the most successful coach at the University of Nebraska. Sad that our pathetic men's basketball and football coaches are making millions more to suck. Some day. Some day! I can't believe your AD brought Frost back. It was simple economics. If they'd have fired Frost they would have owed him $20 million. They restructured his buyout and lowered his base salary by $1 million. Next year, if they fire him, it'll only cost $7.5 million. We can tolerate one more year of this to save $12 million. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 9:46:22 GMT -5
The Nebraska volleyball program actually makes a profit (at least in non-covid years). Maybe the only womens program that does (Hawaii volleyball used to, but not sure if it does anymore). Compare Cook's salary with womens basketball where, for example, Dawn Staley from South Carolina signed a 7 year contract worth over 3 million a year (22.4 million). While South Carolina draws over 10,000 in attendance at home games, their womens basketball program runs over a million dollar deficit, at least it did a few years ago BEFORE her new contract.
Yes womens basketball stll draws about double the ratings in their final four as opposed to volleyballs final four. In my opinion that is largely because ESPN promotes the hell out of womens basketball includiing the WBNA but relegates volleyball to second class citizenry. That is evident with the abject failure of the production of the NCAA volleyball tournament show (Even Coach Sheffield felt obligated to share his opinion it was so bad), the fact that many first round tournament matches were relegated to ESPN+ while ESPN2 and ESPNU were showing non-conference womens basketball matches or worse, and the reality that the final match is on ESPN2 and not ESPN.
The B1G network has it figured out. Womens volleyball is the third most watched sport behind mens football and basketball. They promote volleyball just as much as womens basketball. When the other networks figure out volleyball is surpassing basketball in popularity, then you'll see a significant shift up on volleyball coaches salaries.
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Post by karellen on Dec 17, 2021 11:17:28 GMT -5
Cook is underpaid, BTW. Most women's VB coaches are. It's criminal how we don't support women's sports in this country. I know and like John Cook. He is very knowledgeable and always willing to speak with me when I see him. However...he is not underpaid. I will agree that most volleyball coaches are underpaid, but I am not sure John is one of them. Looking at this salary info is nice and fun and I am sure some people are reading this thread thinking how cool it would be to coach volleyball and make that kind of money. Somethings that surprise people when I point them out -- 1) The a huge part (more than 50%?) of a head coaching job takes place outside of the gym -- making travel arrangements and the actual travel, recruiting, department meetings, NCAA paperwork, meetings with players, meetings with athletic trainers and strength coaches, purchasing equipment and apparel, etc, etc.... 2) There are a great number of NCAA DI head coaches who are making as little as mid-30s in salary. Majority of coaches are way below 6 figures. And while John may have a nice, big staff to perform many of the tasks I listed, most are dealing with a staff with considerable fewer members. so, while it is nice to marvel at what coaches in top conferences are making, it is not a representation of reality for the vast majority of coaches. |
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Post by eov4nu on Dec 17, 2021 12:13:22 GMT -5
Cook is easily the most successful coach at the University of Nebraska. Sad that our pathetic men's basketball and football coaches are making millions more to suck. Some day. Some day! I mean, football pays the bills. There are plenty of assistant football coaches that make way more than Cook. Nebraska volleyball finishes in the black now that they moved to Devaney. I get it that football pays the bills but $5 million a year for three wins a season? Give me a break. |
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 17, 2021 12:14:21 GMT -5
I mean, football pays the bills. There are plenty of assistant football coaches that make way more than Cook. Nebraska volleyball finishes in the black now that they moved to Devaney. I get it that football pays the bills but $5 million a year for three wins a season? Give me a break. Just because Nebraska hired a bad coach doesn't mean that football coaches shouldn't get paid much more than volleyball coaches. Give me a break. |
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Post by gophervbfan on Dec 17, 2021 12:47:58 GMT -5
Cook is underpaid, BTW. Most women's VB coaches are. It's criminal how we don't support women's sports in this country. I know and like John Cook. He is very knowledgeable and always willing to speak with me when I see him. However...he is not underpaid. I will agree that most volleyball coaches are underpaid, but I am not sure John is one of them. Looking at this salary info is nice and fun and I am sure some people are reading this thread thinking how cool it would be to coach volleyball and make that kind of money. Somethings that surprise people when I point them out -- 1) The a huge part (more than 50%?) of a head coaching job takes place outside of the gym -- making travel arrangements and the actual travel, recruiting, department meetings, NCAA paperwork, meetings with players, meetings with athletic trainers and strength coaches, purchasing equipment and apparel, etc, etc.... 2) There are a great number of NCAA DI head coaches who are making as little as mid-30s in salary. Majority of coaches are way below 6 figures. And while John may have a nice, big staff to perform many of the tasks I listed, most are dealing with a staff with considerable fewer members. so, while it is nice to marvel at what coaches in top conferences are making, it is not a representation of reality for the vast majority of coaches. DIII volleyball head coaches in the MIAC generally make between $50K-$80K. Your mid-30s number for DI coaches is not based in reality. |
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Post by eov4nu on Dec 17, 2021 13:02:14 GMT -5
Nebraska volleyball finishes in the black now that they moved to Devaney. I get it that football pays the bills but $5 million a year for three wins a season? Give me a break. Just because Nebraska hired a bad coach doesn't mean that football coaches shouldn't get paid much more than volleyball coaches. Give me a break. Don't you wish you could make $5 million a year to suck at your job and then get a huge payoff when you get fired? |
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Post by karellen on Dec 17, 2021 13:45:32 GMT -5
I know and like John Cook. He is very knowledgeable and always willing to speak with me when I see him. However...he is not underpaid. I will agree that most volleyball coaches are underpaid, but I am not sure John is one of them. Looking at this salary info is nice and fun and I am sure some people are reading this thread thinking how cool it would be to coach volleyball and make that kind of money. Somethings that surprise people when I point them out -- 1) The a huge part (more than 50%?) of a head coaching job takes place outside of the gym -- making travel arrangements and the actual travel, recruiting, department meetings, NCAA paperwork, meetings with players, meetings with athletic trainers and strength coaches, purchasing equipment and apparel, etc, etc.... 2) There are a great number of NCAA DI head coaches who are making as little as mid-30s in salary. Majority of coaches are way below 6 figures. And while John may have a nice, big staff to perform many of the tasks I listed, most are dealing with a staff with considerable fewer members. so, while it is nice to marvel at what coaches in top conferences are making, it is not a representation of reality for the vast majority of coaches. DIII volleyball head coaches in the MIAC generally make between $50K-$80K. Your mid-30s number for DI coaches is not based in reality. Some DII and DIII conferences pay very well. I am not arguing that. Coaches in the DII Northern Sun probably average better than the range you threw out. Just because one particular league, regardless of division, pays very well, that league is not a gauge for other schools in the division or any other. Congrats to the MIAC and Northern Sun. I personally know head coaches at DI level who are making in the mid- to upper-30s. I have coached at all three NCAA levels and have interviewed for head coaching positions at all three levels. I have walked away from jobs at DII level because one salary was 30 and the other was 39. I have interviewed for DI jobs with starting pay at 40 and 45. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 20:23:08 GMT -5
With the new coaches in the BIG I wonder how much the salaries changed? Heard Michigan State went big. But got to think Penn State paid less. Big contracts likely coming for Wisconsin and Purdue. I believe Minn already got a raise.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Feb 13, 2022 22:41:26 GMT -5
With the new coaches in the BIG I wonder how much the salaries changed? Heard Michigan State went big. But got to think Penn State paid less. Big contracts likely coming for Wisconsin and Purdue. I believe Minn already got a raise. Wisconsin extended Sheffield's contract for 5 years in late January. I don't know for how much. |
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Post by rjaege on Feb 14, 2022 6:34:34 GMT -5
The Nebraska volleyball program actually makes a profit (at least in non-covid years). Maybe the only womens program that does (Hawaii volleyball used to, but not sure if it does anymore). Compare Cook's salary with womens basketball where, for example, Dawn Staley from South Carolina signed a 7 year contract worth over 3 million a year (22.4 million). While South Carolina draws over 10,000 in attendance at home games, their womens basketball program runs over a million dollar deficit, at least it did a few years ago BEFORE her new contract. Yes womens basketball stll draws about double the ratings in their final four as opposed to volleyballs final four. In my opinion that is largely because ESPN promotes the hell out of womens basketball includiing the WBNA but relegates volleyball to second class citizenry. That is evident with the abject failure of the production of the NCAA volleyball tournament show (Even Coach Sheffield felt obligated to share his opinion it was so bad), the fact that many first round tournament matches were relegated to ESPN+ while ESPN2 and ESPNU were showing non-conference womens basketball matches or worse, and the reality that the final match is on ESPN2 and not ESPN. The B1G network has it figured out. Womens volleyball is the third most watched sport behind mens football and basketball. They promote volleyball just as much as womens basketball. When the other networks figure out volleyball is surpassing basketball in popularity, then you'll see a significant shift up on volleyball coaches salaries. Volleyball is growing in popularity amoung women and female youth athletes. Many top female athletes preferring volleyball over basketball, a growing trend. IMO this will lead to a growing pool of volleyball fans, which will in turn lead to increasing coverage of volleyball and higher coaching salaries. The later being the least important from my perspective. |
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Post by curly on Feb 14, 2022 8:27:46 GMT -5
The media is reporting Leah Johnson's salary at MSU as $335,000. The local paper said this would be in the 4th-6th range in the conference.
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Post by britney97 on Feb 14, 2022 8:28:40 GMT -5
DIII volleyball head coaches in the MIAC generally make between $50K-$80K. Your mid-30s number for DI coaches is not based in reality. Some DII and DIII conferences pay very well. I am not arguing that. Coaches in the DII Northern Sun probably average better than the range you threw out. Just because one particular league, regardless of division, pays very well, that league is not a gauge for other schools in the division or any other. Congrats to the MIAC and Northern Sun. I personally know head coaches at DI level who are making in the mid- to upper-30s. I have coached at all three NCAA levels and have interviewed for head coaching positions at all three levels. I have walked away from jobs at DII level because one salary was 30 and the other was 39. I have interviewed for DI jobs with starting pay at 40 and 45. This is very, very true!!! |
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Post by britney97 on Feb 14, 2022 8:29:26 GMT -5
The media is reporting Leah Johnson's salary at MSU as $335,000. The local paper said this would be in the 4th-6th range in the conference. Wonder how much of that is including her buyout from ISU? |
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