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Post by immacoach on Dec 19, 2021 19:16:05 GMT -5
Now that the NCAA season is over, it’ll be interesting to see which seniors sign pro contracts and to which teams they go. What is the best way to follow these players and how do you all keep track of the different pro leagues?
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 19, 2021 19:41:24 GMT -5
Stealing this from one of my other threads How To Watch Each League (and other details)
Each league's thread is hyperlinked in its name. Schedules of each match will be in each league thread on game days or the night before (usually) Flashscore is a very handy website.
Turkish League
Matches will be streamed on Youtube and TRT Spor 1. TRT is sometimes streamed on Youtube but otherwise will "legally" require a VPN but unofficial links are always available.
Italian League
All Italian League matches are going to be streamed on Volleyballworld.TV this season. It costs $7.99/month or $74.99 for an entire year. (I'm doing monthly, but mostly so I can cancel when there are no matches or no interesting matches)
CEV Champions League
The Champions League will be streamed on EuroVolley TV. This costs 7.99 euros per month or 15.99 euros for three months. Some matches will be free to watch on Youtube. (Some of the other Euro competitions such as CEV Cup and Challenge Cup may be streamed here)
German League
The German league is no longer completely free to watch. TV matches will still take place on Sport 1 (VPN needed) these are free, but now all of the other matches are on Sport 1's streaming service (VPN required). The subscription is $63 for the rest of the season I believe.
French League
The French League is broadcast on LNVTV. Some matches are free, some are not. Replays have been free to view, Im pretty sure.
Brazilian League
TBA... Matches/highlights usually find their way to Youtube
Russian League
Matches are all streamed here (free) tvstart.ru/
Swiss League
It looks like the Swiss league is broadcasting their matches via their own social media pages. Facebook and Youtube so far.
Chinese League
TBA... Probably replays only
Japanese League
Good luck lol TBA
Polish League
Matches are on Polsat Sport and their family of channels. You might be able to watch the matches with a VPN, some require a subscription however.
Other Leagues
Includes Finland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Sweden, Austria, and anyone else kwt can find 
Athletes Unlimited
TBA... Starts in March 2022
Important Links
American Players Overseas and their Teams (this thread is from my old account... its not updated.. I can let you know for specific players if they're not listed) 2021 NCAA Players Going Professional |
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Post by clob on Dec 19, 2021 20:44:58 GMT -5
This is interesting. So what are the best leagues to watch?
Say I only want to get invested in two of them...
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Post by basil on Dec 19, 2021 20:46:45 GMT -5
This is interesting. So what are the best leagues to watch? Say I only want to get invested in two of them... Italy and Turkey. Highest quality of play among the top teams and a lot of the top Americans are sprinkled throughout the teams. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 19, 2021 20:55:09 GMT -5
I would second Italy and Turkey. Both are the easiest to watch. Turkey is 100% free. All matches are on youtube. TV matches aren't... but streams can be found for them. Italy is all on volleyball world now. It's the best league in the world top to bottom... Matches are usually on Sunday mornings (10am-12pm CT) very easy to watch but it is a subscription (if you buy the yearly pass, you'll get access to the VNL and World Championships next summer) clob who is your favorite NCAA athletes/team |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 19, 2021 21:00:10 GMT -5
I would argue the next best league to watch is the German league, with no foreigner limits, tends to have a lot of recent/relatively-recognizable NCAA players. Germany would've been on my list last year... but they pay-walled all of their matches lol But yea, there's a ton of NCAA players there... and the level is actually getting a lot better. |
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Post by clob on Dec 19, 2021 21:14:09 GMT -5
OK, I have about 50 billion questions about the pro leagues. I know absolutely nothing about them except that's where every good NCAA player goes to actually make some money if they still want to play or get on the national team.
I'll write all my questions down and hit up avid (and others) with them all in a couple of days.
I'm also 90% sure much of this board doesn't realize how the pro leagues operate. It might be enlightening for many people.
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Post by pin2pin on Dec 19, 2021 21:23:09 GMT -5
OK, I have about 50 billion questions about the pro leagues. I know absolutely nothing about them except that's where every good NCAA player goes to actually make some money if they still want to play or get on the national team. I'll write all my questions down and hit up avid (and others) with them all in a couple of days. I'm also 90% sure much of this board doesn't realize how the pro leagues operate. It might be enlightening for many people. Agreed |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 19, 2021 21:54:35 GMT -5
OK, I have about 50 billion questions about the pro leagues. I know absolutely nothing about them except that's where every good NCAA player goes to actually make some money if they still want to play or get on the national team. I'll write all my questions down and hit up avid (and others) with them all in a couple of days. I'm also 90% sure much of this board doesn't realize how the pro leagues operate. It might be enlightening for many people. me and basil have plenty of time (well according to vbprisoner) so ask away |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 21:59:17 GMT -5
OK, I have about 50 billion questions about the pro leagues. I know absolutely nothing about them except that's where every good NCAA player goes to actually make some money if they still want to play or get on the national team. I'll write all my questions down and hit up avid (and others) with them all in a couple of days. I'm also 90% sure much of this board doesn't realize how the pro leagues operate. It might be enlightening for many people. me and basil have plenty of time (well according to vbprisoner) so ask away I can try and help too avid definitely knows more than me but I have a few specific connections and sources. Pro vball is a ton of fun to dive into for sure! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 22:00:17 GMT -5
Also I’ve enjoyed some of the Russian league matches I’ve watched this year. I’m not even sure if anyone else watches it besides maybe avid 2.0 but you could give it a try too! |
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Post by basil on Dec 19, 2021 22:06:33 GMT -5
OK, I have about 50 billion questions about the pro leagues. I know absolutely nothing about them except that's where every good NCAA player goes to actually make some money if they still want to play or get on the national team. I'll write all my questions down and hit up avid (and others) with them all in a couple of days. I'm also 90% sure much of this board doesn't realize how the pro leagues operate. It might be enlightening for many people. me and basil have plenty of time (well according to vbprisoner) so ask away this shade is uncalled for ☠️☠️☠️ tho I will answer any questions:) |
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Post by savannahbadger on Dec 19, 2021 22:18:35 GMT -5
I hope this isn’t uncouth to ask, but what kind of salary range are these players making? Is it like minor league baseball (better in recent years, but damn near poverty level salary), mens professional basketball (play long enough and you can live pretty comfortably), or are the making millions (salary and/or endorsements)?
I guess I’m still trying to wrap my head around how pro leagues work and succeed, since there’s not much comparable in the US.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 19, 2021 22:21:03 GMT -5
I hope this isn’t uncouth to ask, but what kind of salary range are these players making? Is it like minor league baseball (better in recent years, but damn near poverty level salary), mens professional basketball (play long enough and you can live pretty comfortably), or are the making millions (salary and/or endorsements)? I guess I’m still trying to wrap my head around how pro leagues work and succeed, since there’s not much comparable in the US. It depends on the league and the player. Lower leagues it can be anywhere from breaking even (expenses, rent, etc) to 20,000-30,000, etc. If you're elite (think Larson) you're making high 6-7 figures. The top teams in Asia and Turkey can pay these wages. In Italy, the wages are lower, but there's better players across the board. Kim Hill was second in the league with 240,000 (euros) in 2019 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 22:23:29 GMT -5
I hope this isn’t uncouth to ask, but what kind of salary range are these players making? Is it like minor league baseball (better in recent years, but damn near poverty level salary), mens professional basketball (play long enough and you can live pretty comfortably), or are the making millions (salary and/or endorsements)? I guess I’m still trying to wrap my head around how pro leagues work and succeed, since there’s not much comparable in the US. well it depends on what league you in and how good you are. The Turkish league pays well for the top players like Tijana Bošković (Serbian Opposite) is making around a million I think. Some of the lower level of play leagues pay a good amount too like the korean league. Italy even though it’s the best league doesn’t pay as much as some of the other lesser leagues. Players can also get other endorsements and make more than their direct salary. |
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